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Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« on: September 24, 2014, 09:26:17 AM »
I just cant stand this ucnt. Such a wet flannell, so full of shit (even more so than most politicians) Loads of promises without remotely explaining how he ll fufill them and UGH the guy is such a cnut! That voice! That hair. Please tell me none of you will vote for him and if yes WHY?!!?!?!?!? And don't say cos Camerons a girl, I agree there too but ill just vote for someone else or spoil my ballot paper.

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2014, 09:30:51 AM »
guy is a cock

how the fuck he made leader il never know

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2014, 09:41:31 AM »
Id prefer to vote for his brother...... but he will have to do

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2014, 10:05:21 AM »
The Unions voted him in. His brother was clearly the stronger candidate.

Ed just comes across as a total imbecile. His father was also a communist who apparently hated the UK despite it giving him refuge. :-\

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 10:09:11 AM »
You are supposed to be voting for the party, not the leader.

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2014, 10:19:17 AM »
The Unions voted him in. His brother was clearly the stronger candidate.

Ed just comes across as a total imbecile. His father was also a communist who apparently hated the UK despite it giving him refuge. :-\

As do so many out there, if they don't like it why don't they fuck off?!!?!

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2014, 10:34:36 AM »
The Unions voted him in. His brother was clearly the stronger candidate.

Ed just comes across as a total imbecile. His father was also a communist who apparently hated the UK despite it giving him refuge. :-\


His father was a socialist... The unions really fucked up, labour would ease into government with David in charge, as it is it will be very close...

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2014, 12:55:29 PM »
You are supposed to be voting for the party, not the leader.

The leader is the face of Britain on the world stage

Way more important than the party
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2014, 01:32:53 PM »
The leader is the face of Britain on the world stage

Way more important than the party
I saw a member of the public being interviewed about how he voted, he said "I always vote Labour, I always have"
Daft twat had no idea what the policies were or what the party actually intended to do if they got elected.

Stupid fucker.

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2014, 01:37:22 PM »
I saw a member of the public being interviewed about how he voted, he said "I always vote Labour, I always have"
Daft twat had no idea what the policies were or what the party actually intended to do if they got elected.

Stupid fucker.

You're describing 75% of the electorate there, and that's being generous

It's even worse in the US, I swear people here have no idea what they're voting for even at a local level

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2014, 01:41:47 PM »
The leader is the face of Britain on the world stage

Way more important than the party

I disagree.  What is important is to rid the UK of Labour's client state and get the economy working so that there's enough revenue to build a better society.

They are all a bunch of self serving fuckers, but any vote for Labour is a peasant vote who can't see past his own nose.  You need business builders and revenue generators and the Labour Party has always been the enemy of that.  Between my brother and myself we employ over 800 people in the UK in businesses we both built from the ground up.  Labour makes people like us want to leave personally (I have) and professionally.  That's 800 jobs, pensions, 800 NI payments, corporation tax, and millions in VAT payments that would be at risk.

The world is so small and easy to move around now that all businesses, in order to be competitive on a decent scale, will go to the most favourable regimes.  Any government that ignores this (France is the best example - brilliant people with a shit socialist regime so they have been fucked for years) is living in an ivory tower.  And what happens when you have a bloated state sector?  A huge contribution to the current mess that Brown pushed us towards and Spain / Greece find themselves in.  

Singapore has the best regime in the world (yes, I have a business there so I know the place) and it is effectively a benign economically right wing dictatorship that supports its citizens and encourages businesses with tax laws that allow you to build a new business, delay paying tax, and when you are ready make a positive contribution.  It makes generating wealth and building jobs and careers so much easier. Socialist countries, I also have a business in one of these, make it impossible and a grind from start to finish.  The latter are always the poorest countries with the worst opportunities and help for their people.

The UK is a fantastic country, but the next GE for Labour will be about the NHS.  They need to get rid of benefit scroungers and the 98% of the Somalian community who don't work, not raise more taxes to try to stick a finger in the dyke.

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2014, 02:39:13 PM »
You see, its cun.ts like you who can't see past there own noses.... You and your elk want your workers to work with no rights, no pay rises, reduced holidays, zero hrs etc etc the torys are dying to take the little rights we have left, leaving the working man totaly powerless, don't even get be started on privatization and the total fuck up of our utilities and resources.. And if they sign off the new trade deal with the US you can more or less wave good bye to the NHS

put it this way, if it was one man one vote you and your Tory party would never get in power again

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2014, 07:12:43 AM »
Most of the votes are from the same idiots, who voted UKIP into lots of Essex Councils last election - not realising that their spiel about Europe and Immigration had nothing to do with the local election hahaha fucking dickheads.

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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 09:45:26 AM »
I disagree.  What is important is to rid the UK of Labour's client state and get the economy working so that there's enough revenue to build a better society.

They are all a bunch of self serving fuckers, but any vote for Labour is a peasant vote who can't see past his own nose.  You need business builders and revenue generators and the Labour Party has always been the enemy of that.  Between my brother and myself we employ over 800 people in the UK in businesses we both built from the ground up.  Labour makes people like us want to leave personally (I have) and professionally.  That's 800 jobs, pensions, 800 NI payments, corporation tax, and millions in VAT payments that would be at risk.

The world is so small and easy to move around now that all businesses, in order to be competitive on a decent scale, will go to the most favourable regimes.  Any government that ignores this (France is the best example - brilliant people with a shit socialist regime so they have been fucked for years) is living in an ivory tower.  And what happens when you have a bloated state sector?  A huge contribution to the current mess that Brown pushed us towards and Spain / Greece find themselves in.  

Singapore has the best regime in the world (yes, I have a business there so I know the place) and it is effectively a benign economically right wing dictatorship that supports its citizens and encourages businesses with tax laws that allow you to build a new business, delay paying tax, and when you are ready make a positive contribution.  It makes generating wealth and building jobs and careers so much easier. Socialist countries, I also have a business in one of these, make it impossible and a grind from start to finish.  The latter are always the poorest countries with the worst opportunities and help for their people.

The UK is a fantastic country, but the next GE for Labour will be about the NHS.  They need to get rid of benefit scroungers and the 98% of the Somalian community who don't work, not raise more taxes to try to stick a finger in the dyke.

you make a lot of valid points

but you need a massive shift in social values to make the changes you want

any of the main stream parties will always tinker round the middle ground

as they want the popular vote

I agree that we need to get people in to work

problem is as you know as an employer

it costs a lot more to employ people over here than our new competitors like china

and we have fucked ourselves in the ass by building the economy on the financial sector

its always a house of cards now that can come tumbling down

problem is how do you make manufacturing more competitive  when your overheads are huge compared to the middle east

there is a reason global manufacturers get all their kit from shit holes where the workers get paid nothing

the only way we can do it in the uk is to excel at tech like the formula one industry

where it is so specialised that the poor countries cant compete

none of the political parties will tow this line as its seen as elitist
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2014, 10:05:17 AM »
you make a lot of valid points

but you need a massive shift in social values to make the changes you want

any of the main stream parties will always tinker round the middle ground

as they want the popular vote

I agree that we need to get people in to work

problem is as you know as an employer

it costs a lot more to employ people over here than our new competitors like china

and we have fucked ourselves in the ass by building the economy on the financial sector

its always a house of cards now that can come tumbling down

problem is how do you make manufacturing more competitive  when your overheads are huge compared to the middle east

there is a reason global manufacturers get all their kit from shit holes where the workers get paid nothing

the only way we can do it in the uk is to excel at tech like the formula one industry

where it is so specialised that the poor countries cant compete

none of the political parties will tow this line as its seen as elitist
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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2014, 10:30:35 AM »
you make a lot of valid points

but you need a massive shift in social values to make the changes you want

any of the main stream parties will always tinker round the middle ground

as they want the popular vote

I agree that we need to get people in to work

problem is as you know as an employer

it costs a lot more to employ people over here than our new competitors like china

and we have fucked ourselves in the ass by building the economy on the financial sector

its always a house of cards now that can come tumbling down

problem is how do you make manufacturing more competitive  when your overheads are huge compared to the middle east

there is a reason global manufacturers get all their kit from shit holes where the workers get paid nothing

the only way we can do it in the uk is to excel at tech like the formula one industry

where it is so specialised that the poor countries cant compete

none of the political parties will tow this line as its seen as elitist


Its a race to the bottom fir labour costs abroad, the quality. Is shocking tho... I work in marine engineering, wartsilla have thruster units built in china, 1 in 3 need to be scrapped, all need taken apart and thoroughly checked and adjusted before put into use... Still cheaper than being built in UK or Holland..

But the standard of life in china is rising, they want phones, tv's, cars etc.. Just like what happens in Korea, the wage will rise to a point where it's not worth paying for fuckups

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Re: Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2014, 10:43:17 AM »
I stopped buying my model trains when Hornby started having them made in China. Nowhere near the quality of when they were made in Margate, Kent, BRITAIN!!!

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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2014, 10:48:12 AM »
I stopped buying my model trains when Hornby started having them made in China. Nowhere near the quality of when they were made in Margate, Kent, BRITAIN!!!
You really shouldn't have revealed that.

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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2014, 11:25:10 AM »
You really shouldn't have revealed that.

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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2014, 04:01:30 PM »
You see, its cun.ts like you who can't see past there own noses.... You and your elk want your workers to work with no rights, no pay rises, reduced holidays, zero hrs etc etc the torys are dying to take the little rights we have left, leaving the working man totaly powerless, don't even get be started on privatization and the total fuck up of our utilities and resources.. And if they sign off the new trade deal with the US you can more or less wave good bye to the NHS

put it this way, if it was one man one vote you and your Tory party would never get in power again

you are really a brain washed imbescile. if workers, who constitute most of the end demand in the economy arent paid fairly they cant buy their own production... and the economy would go into a recession that would shrink corp profits versus wages.

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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2014, 04:03:27 PM »
I disagree.  What is important is to rid the UK of Labour's client state and get the economy working so that there's enough revenue to build a better society.

They are all a bunch of self serving fuckers, but any vote for Labour is a peasant vote who can't see past his own nose.  You need business builders and revenue generators and the Labour Party has always been the enemy of that.  Between my brother and myself we employ over 800 people in the UK in businesses we both built from the ground up.  Labour makes people like us want to leave personally (I have) and professionally.  That's 800 jobs, pensions, 800 NI payments, corporation tax, and millions in VAT payments that would be at risk.

The world is so small and easy to move around now that all businesses, in order to be competitive on a decent scale, will go to the most favourable regimes.  Any government that ignores this (France is the best example - brilliant people with a shit socialist regime so they have been fucked for years) is living in an ivory tower.  And what happens when you have a bloated state sector?  A huge contribution to the current mess that Brown pushed us towards and Spain / Greece find themselves in.  

Singapore has the best regime in the world (yes, I have a business there so I know the place) and it is effectively a benign economically right wing dictatorship that supports its citizens and encourages businesses with tax laws that allow you to build a new business, delay paying tax, and when you are ready make a positive contribution.  It makes generating wealth and building jobs and careers so much easier. Socialist countries, I also have a business in one of these, make it impossible and a grind from start to finish.  The latter are always the poorest countries with the worst opportunities and help for their people.

The UK is a fantastic country, but the next GE for Labour will be about the NHS.  They need to get rid of benefit scroungers and the 98% of the Somalian community who don't work, not raise more taxes to try to stick a finger in the dyke.

ukip is the only small govt low tax party. Milliband if he has half a brain cell of common sense would have made the entire election about economic stability and building houses for growth. the growth would then delever the economy and pay for nhs etc. instead he wants to tax even more small business owners who employ most of the people in the economy...

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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2014, 04:08:22 PM »

Its a race to the bottom fir labour costs abroad, the quality. Is shocking tho... I work in marine engineering, wartsilla have thruster units built in china, 1 in 3 need to be scrapped, all need taken apart and thoroughly checked and adjusted before put into use... Still cheaper than being built in UK or Holland..

But the standard of life in china is rising, they want phones, tv's, cars etc.. Just like what happens in Korea, the wage will rise to a point where it's not worth paying for fuckups

no they will be stuck in the middle income trap. in the earlu 90s hong kong average incomes were higher than southern europe, then after 97 their bubble economy collapsed.

the chinese are ugly, deranged idiots. if you want to manufacture more than cheap kids toys you have to show them everything from start to finish. however all the value added is held abroad, out of say $200 of corp profit for an iphone chinese companies probably only bank $5 despite putting the thing together and making most of the commoditised components.

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2014, 12:03:34 AM »
you are really a brain washed imbescile. if workers, who constitute most of the end demand in the economy arent paid fairly they cant buy their own production... and the economy would go into a recession that would shrink corp profits versus wages.



Ahh I see, im so stupid.... That's why shop floor wages keep rising each year then...hmmmmmmm, only real rises are seen at upper management level and its been this way a long time.. If your ilk really thought that way why did they almost go into meltdown when the minimum wage was brought in, and still refuse to pay a living wage..now those huge department stores and super markets will have the majority of the wages put straight back into the tills, yet they still refuse to budge?

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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2014, 12:37:42 AM »
You see, its cun.ts like you who can't see past there own noses.... You and your elk want your workers to work with no rights, no pay rises, reduced holidays, zero hrs etc etc the torys are dying to take the little rights we have left, leaving the working man totaly powerless, don't even get be started on privatization and the total fuck up of our utilities and resources.. And if they sign off the new trade deal with the US you can more or less wave good bye to the NHS

put it this way, if it was one man one vote you and your Tory party would never get in power again
Totally agree with you.

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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2014, 02:21:46 AM »
I stopped buying my model trains when Hornby started having them made in China. Nowhere near the quality of when they were made in Margate, Kent, BRITAIN!!!

Good point Darren, I stopped dressing up in drag when I saw all the wigs were being made in Indonesia, no where near as realistic as the ones from homoerotica in Brighton