Author Topic: Do you want to be the biggest and the best? Or is moderate success enough?  (Read 3429 times)

Al Doggity

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In your life, your career, your outside interests...

is your goal to become the most successful in those pursuits? Or is being "good" good enough?

If it was within your means, would you be the richest businessman or is having a comfortable life with no pressing money worries ideal for you? 

Do you want to be the biggest,strongest and most muscular guy on the Olympia stage or is a muscular physique that looks good in clothes your goal?

If you had a skill that could make you world renowned, would it be enough for you to call it a hobby?

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I'm happy with being good.
Most the guys with 6 figure salaries work so many hrs, it's no longer worth it. YOu can never enjoy your stuff anyway.
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I downgraded my professional ambitions over the years.....right now  my children are the most important.
Not my personal scientific career, which I would have put at numero uno if I didn't have kids........

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My goals revolve around setting my kids up with a better life when they are older, if I can die and leave them the family home and 5 or so rental properties all paid for I'd be happy so they can enjoy a comfortable life and early retirement.

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I want everything that's best. Always did. No kids and other distractions, everything is on my side, just need to work, work, work.. Best or die like the rest.

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I dont give a fuck about being the "best" "world renowned" etc I just want to be happy...which is alot harder than I thought lol

Papper

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I want it all; money, fast cars
Diamond rings, gold chains and champagne
Shit, everydamn thing
I want it all; houses, expenses
My own business, a truck, hmm, and a couple o' Benz's
I want it all; brand new socks and drawls
And I'm ballin everytime I stop and talk to y'all
I want it all, all, all, all
I want it all, all, all, all, all

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In your life, your career, your outside interests...

is your goal to become the most successful in those pursuits? Or is being "good" good enough?

If it was within your means, would you be the richest businessman or is having a comfortable life with no pressing money worries ideal for you? 

Do you want to be the biggest,strongest and most muscular guy on the Olympia stage or is a muscular physique that looks good in clothes your goal?

If you had a skill that could make you world renowned, would it be enough for you to call it a hobby?

Its hard to separate ones life, career, and outside interests, as most of the time they are interrelated.

As for me, I want to be the best (whatever the best means, as you have not operationally defined it) in my career. I don't care about being the best in outside of activities/interests/hobbies. If I cared about being the biggest and the best in my outside activities, Id have to be Mr. Olympia to be the best weightlifter/bodybuilder in the world. For me, staying fit and being healthy is enough. I don't have to be the best bodybuilder in the world.
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Al Doggity

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Its hard to separate ones life, career, and outside interests, as most of the time they are interrelated.


This is true. I made the question a little broader, so it could speak to the interests of whoever decided to participate in this thread. Someone who is super-focused on career is not likely to be as concerned about looking like a pro-level bodybuilder (unless they are a pro-level bodybuilder). Working on a side-project- like a programming a computer game- tends to distract from other aspects of life, even if it's more a hobby than a business venture.

So, when you say you want to be the best in your career, does that mean you want to produce excellent work? Or does that mean that you want to be well-known nationally and internationally, establish your own firm worth $100s/millions or more, be profiled by Forbes, have books written about you?

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I dont give a fuck about being the "best" "world renowned" etc I just want to be happy...which is alot harder than I thought lol

Do you enjoy your career? If you are in a field you like or love, don't you think producing excellent work and being recognized for it is a source of happiness?

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This is true. I made the question a little broader, so it could speak to the interests of whoever decided to participate in this thread. Someone who is super-focused on career is not likely to be as concerned about looking like a pro-level bodybuilder (unless they are a pro-level bodybuilder). Working on a side-project- like a programming a computer game- tends to distract from other aspects of life, even if it's more a hobby than a business venture.

Or the flip side, having a successful career can create more opportunities to be involved in outside activities, i.e., if you're successful and have money, you may have to work less, and can spend more time being involved in outside activities. If you're working 4 jobs to just pay the bills, you will probably have no time for outside activities.

So, when you say you want to be the best in your career, does that mean you want to produce excellent work? Or does that mean that you want to be well-known nationally and internationally, establish your own firm worth $100s/millions or more, be profiled by Forbes, have books written about you?

I want to do excellent work and be well-know, both nationally and internationally (though, Id be just as happy with being nationally known). It is highly unlikely that form of recognition will produce $100s/millions. It may, but highly unlikely. So, its more about being nationally/internationally known, doing good work, and living comfortably. Obviously, I am not opposed to being wealthy (worth 300 million dollars), but it rarely ever happens in my line of work.


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Al Doggity

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Or the flip side, having a successful career can create more opportunities to be involved in outside activities, i.e., if you're successful and have money, you may have to work less, and can spend more time being involved in outside activities. If you're working 4 jobs to just pay the bills, you will probably have no time for outside activities.
In my opening post, I tried to emphasize the difference between "good" and "great".  Is a comfortable existence, relatively happy existence enough? Or is contextual greatness your goal.


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I want to do excellent work and be well-know, both nationally and internationally (though, Id be just as happy with being nationally known). It is highly unlikely that form of recognition will produce $100s/millions. It may, but highly unlikely. So, its more about being nationally/internationally known, doing good work, and living comfortably. Obviously, I am not opposed to being wealthy (worth 300 million dollars), but it rarely ever happens in my line of work.


Is there anyone who has achieved what you want to achieve in your field (or a level of success that you consider comparable)? Or do you ultimately want to reach a level of success that is unique ? Or, on the same hand, have a groundbreaking achievement?

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I'm ok with good. I have simple tastes so don't need a ton of money, just need to be smarter with the money I do have. I hate working so I'm not a guy who will work 70-80 hours a week for years just to make more cash.

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"want"?

by now you should have reached your goals.
stop playing around.
you think arnold got where he did by sitting at home wishing? fuck off.
this thread disgusts me.

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Is there anyone who has achieved what you want to achieve in your field (or a level of success that you consider comparable)? Or do you ultimately want to reach a level of success that is unique ? Or, on the same hand, have a groundbreaking achievement?

Yes, people have achieved what I want to achieve in my field.

However, to my knowledge, no one is worth a few hundred million from my field alone. They may be worth this much if they invested right, however, I highly doubt they would be worth that much just from working in my field alone (without any other investments).

Unique? In what manner? Many people in my field are unique. If I create some groundbreaking achievement, I guess I would be considered "unique," but not any more unique than another person who also created a groundbreaking achievement.
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I AM the best at what I do.. My team is recognized as one of the top in the industry.. At this point its no longer money that motivates me other than that being used as one means of keepking score

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Unique? In what manner? Many people in my field are unique. If I create some groundbreaking achievement, I guess I would be considered "unique," but not any more unique than another person who also created a groundbreaking achievement.


Well, let's take bodybuilding for instance. Right now, Phil Heath is the top guy in the field. I think, at his best, he is the rightful Mr. O among actively competing bodybuilders.

But then when you look back at Ronnie- he took physical development forward. So, Phil is currently the greatest, but Ronnie was groundbreaking.

Is there an equivalent in your field? A distinction between greatness and groundbreaking?

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I do and I don't enjoy my career,construction so enjoy the finished product can work when i want eat when i want as own boss but hate getting dirty. You're right producing excellent work for people and being recognized is a source of happiness but its hard to explain and I don't really want to. Some thoughts aren't for others.


LOL it's not a cross-examination. You don't have to answer any questions you don't want to! Just a little discussion about career, success and potential.

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Well, let's take bodybuilding for instance. Right now, Phil Heath is the top guy in the field. I think, at his best, he is the rightful Mr. O among actively competing bodybuilders.

But then when you look back at Ronnie- he took physical development forward. So, Phil is currently the greatest, but Ronnie was groundbreaking.

Is there an equivalent in your field? A distinction between greatness and groundbreaking?

Thats a very good point... Doing something groundbreaking would be a rush I am sure... I have not done that..

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"want"?

by now you should have reached your goals.
stop playing around.
you think arnold got where he did by sitting at home wishing? fuck jerking off.
this thread disgusts me.

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Al Doggity

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I do and I don't enjoy my career,construction so enjoy the finished product can work when i want eat when i want as own boss but hate getting dirty. You're right producing excellent work for people and being recognized is a source of happiness but its hard to explain and I don't really want to. Some thoughts aren't for others.


I get really fulfilled doing things that are difficult. When I was younger, I believed that succeeding- doing things well innately- was the mark of greatness. As I get older, I appreciate that fact that very few people have innate skill at worthwhile activities. I respect failures when progress is made. A friend of mine is transitioning a business he started. He's sort of embarrassed and depressed about it, but the fact that he's pivoting because it's not working like he wanted it to work is actually sort of admirable to me.


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Well, let's take bodybuilding for instance. Right now, Phil Heath is the top guy in the field. I think, at his best, he is the rightful Mr. O among actively competing bodybuilders.

But then when you look back at Ronnie- he took physical development forward. So, Phil is currently the greatest, but Ronnie was groundbreaking.

Is there an equivalent in your field? A distinction between greatness and groundbreaking?

Yes, there are great people in my field, but there are those who are goundbreaking, and perhaps this makes them more than great.
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Al Doggity

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Thats a very good point... Doing something groundbreaking would be a rush I am sure... I have not done that..

In media, doing something groundbreaking- even something significant and popular- is such a fleeting barometer for success. Even a truly revolutionary idea can be copied almost immediately and evolve into something unrecognizable really quickly. I'm speaking more about business achievements. I think artistic achievements tend to be a little more enduring.

Money is important, but I can't wrap my head around the idea of wealth accumulation being my biggest motivator. My ultimate goal isn't to stop at what I consider financial comfort, achieving that will allow me to define success in ways that don't necessarily involve money.

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The most successful in my chosen career tend to live in the world's largest cities, have huge amounts of assets they manage, and often take more risks with that money than I tend to be comfortable with. Also, they have to work under much higher levels of regulatory headaches due to those amounts of money they manage. More regs also = more expenses. I'm very comfortable where I'm at now.

As for bodybuilding, I was a runt when I started, and I would say that I basically developed bigorexia early on. After a few years, I had an epiphany of sorts and realized I wouldn't ever look like the guys in the magazines - and I didn't care to take the risks to try to get to that level. So I put bodybuilding on the back burner. I continued to train and eat like a horse, and I eventually became a pretty big guy. But after 27 years of training, I still don't look quite like the guys in the mags looked in the late 80's and early 90's. And I can't imagine ever wanting to get down to a dehydrated 5% bodyfat and get onstage in a thong.

 
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