Natural liars

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[Davidtheman100]

"Natural liars" in a literal sense i will have to go with Doug Miller

[falco]

I know a few former beasts that always claimed natural and now, due to steroid related health issues, had to quit saucing and dropped 45lbs in bodyweight, albeit still training. Whats their excuse now to be a lot smaller? No more monohidrate?

[affeman]

Top 15 Natural liars

[Davidtheman100]

Top 15 Natural liars

It's actually quite funny that these people had a following before and many widely believed that they were natural athletes.. One look at the bodyfat % to height to weight ratio and they should know right away.. They don't think that's accurate? Some common sense would suffice... These people will continue to feed off of and sell supplements to the dumbies.. Always find myself coming back to that video when i need a good laugh haha 

[The Grim Lifter]

I agree with Mike Ashley. Skip la Cour (who even came on here and defended his status).

Ronnie Coleman doesn't count. He's said what he did at seminars and even basically said it in other interviews. He was a goddamm cop he can't exactly say too much.

[_aj_]

My feelings on this have evolved. Previously, I was of the opinion that these guys have to make a buck. But then I realized the tens of thousands of dollars I spent over the years on supps, and I realize that there's a legal term that encompasses their behavior: fraud. It's fraudulent to claim that a product does something that you know it does not. I am sure that all of these "natties" that rep supp companies stay away from the legal jeopardy of saying stupid shit like, "I built this body with XXX" but they are close.

[forillagorilla]

My feelings on this have evolved. Previously, I was of the opinion that these guys have to make a buck. But then I realized the tens of thousands of dollars I spent over the years on supps, and I realize that there's a legal term that encompasses their behavior: fraud. It's fraudulent to claim that a product does something that you know it does not. I am sure that all of these "natties" that rep supp companies stay away from the legal jeopardy of saying stupid shit like, "I built this body with XXX" but they are close.

I do understand your point - and agree - BUT that's advertising in general. Do women really believe that the stars on the hair commercials REALLY have hair that looks that way because of shampoo that can be bought at WalMart?? How about the make-up commercials where the movie star or model states that XXX is her "secret weapon"?? 
I don't see the difference at all.. 

[Grape Ape]

I do understand your point - and agree - BUT that's advertising in general. Do women really believe that the stars on the hair commercials REALLY have hair that looks that way because of shampoo that can be bought at WalMart?? How about the make-up commercials where the movie star or model states that XXX is her "secret weapon"?? 
I don't see the difference at all.. 

Tend to agree.

I think the blame falls on the consumer eventually.  Especially in this day and age, where information is available in an instant.  Do your own research, draw your own conclusions, then make a purchase.

[Davidtheman100]

I do understand your point - and agree - BUT that's advertising in general. Do women really believe that the stars on the hair commercials REALLY have hair that looks that way because of shampoo that can be bought at WalMart?? How about the make-up commercials where the movie star or model states that XXX is her "secret weapon"?? 
I don't see the difference at all.. 

Alot of it is technicalities.. there are certain words you can say to advertise it and there are certain ways to say things so that within the confides of the law there is nothing anyone has against you.. that's all the court system is anyway.. It's never logic.. All technicalities