Author Topic: Sandow Statue for Sale (Read 28620 times)

Jizmo · « **Reply #75 on:** June 27, 2015, 05:41:34 AM »

lee priest

ritch · « **Reply #76 on:** June 27, 2015, 10:19:03 AM »

Quote from: Teutonic Knight on June 26, 2015, 05:41:49 PM

see topic : Sandow for sale

that reply reminds when you used to look up something in a phone book, then it would say "look under such and such"
Fuck!
why not just tell me here???

Hurricane Beef ! · « **Reply #77 on:** June 27, 2015, 12:31:08 PM »

Quote from: Vince B on June 24, 2015, 08:00:19 PM

While Joe was alive nobody questioned his Mr Olympia contest. Joe snuck in the back door in 1965 with a new idea to try to get the top guys to compete in his show and not NABBA in England.

He was eventually successful by the seventies and now the Mr Universe titles mean very little compared to the Mr Olympia. All those big titles relegated to not important since Joe's title became

THE big title to win in bodybuilding. Along with the Mr Olympia came the big medals and Sandow trophies. I have no doubt that they are cherished by all who win them. A nice sculpture for sure.

However, Joe was way off when he used that sculpture for first prize in his bodybuilding contest. Sandow was a figure from several generations before bodybuilding became something more than

a curiosity or sideshow. In the old vaudeville days strongmen were in demand and as it turned out a few of them had impressive physiques as well. Bodybuilding contests as we now know them

more or less originated in America with the Mr America title. That was a prestigious title back in the 1940s and 1950s. The Mr Universe title took off in England when Steve Reeves won in 1950.

In the meantime, Joe held the Mr Canada contest in Montreal then started to expand when he moved his warehouse to New Jersey. Eventually he held Mr America and Mr Universe titles. However,

the NABBA Universe was still the most cherished title according to the top bodybuilders including Arnold.

By the early 1960s the Mr America title became more controversial and they wouldn't let muscleheads or blacks win that title. This opened the way for Joe to have pure bodybuilding contests

and the rest is history. Larry Scott, Chuck Sipes, Harold Poole and Sergio Oliva won big titles solely on the excellence of their physiques. The idea of the Olympia was to have a contest that

the top guys could enter. One year Sergio won without having anyone to compete against him. He was that big and impressive. Then Arnold arrived and they battled for a few years until

something peculiar happened. Sergio was suspended for competing in an unsanctioned show. What happened to the ideal of having all the top guys compete? What a shame that was and

Arnold won year after year after that. The last time they competed was in Germany and many believe Sergio was robbed. There was no Sandow trophy for the winner in those days. Joe presented

Larry Scott with a silver plate. I think he had a crown one year as well. Prize money was something like $1000 and Arnold complained about that meagre amount. Schmoes were offering more

just to hang around Arnold!

Joe and Ben collected art and sculpture so it was no surprise when the Sandow was presented. This was almost out of Joe's fancy office. A replica and something special for the winner.

We wonder why a nice bronze of Steve Reeves wasn't used? There were some impressive bronzes of Steve available at the time. No doubt Joe took the most economical path re trophies.

Casting bronzes and finishing them is an expensive process. If you don't think so go and see what it would cost to have a bronze sculpture of yourself cast. It cost thousands of dollars.

When I look at the Sandow it is a nice bronze. Simple pose holding a vintage barbell that is seen only in museums. Is this what bodybuilding is all about? Not to me.

I look at the bronze of Dorian Yates and am impressed. Now that is a sculpture that represents modern bodybuilding and the superman. Sandow was never that. Will the IFBB upgrade

the trophy for the Mr Olympia? I doubt it. Maybe the pro athletes rep can make a representation on behalf of the top guys and fans out there? That would be a pipe dream.

Whatever Joe and Ben started with the IFBB and the Mr Olympia it seems to persist virtually unchanged over the years. I doubt there will be any significant changes in the decade ahead.

You have some nerve posting anything about Joe Weider after calling him a racist on Ironage.

THE BEEF

Teutonic Knight · « **Reply #78 on:** June 27, 2015, 02:34:52 PM »

Quote from: Hurricane Beef ! on June 27, 2015, 12:31:08 PM

You have some nerve posting anything about Joe Weider after calling him a racist on Ironage.

THE BEEF

Basile dream was to work for Weider as photo man , but Joe too told him where to go

PS, naïve question: why nobody

fatso V.B. ............

Hurricane Beef ! · « **Reply #79 on:** June 27, 2015, 03:04:52 PM »

A big part of the reason vic was kicked off ironage was because he claimed Joe was a racist and cited him not putting Sergio on the cover of Muscle Builder as proof of that. vic was out of fucken line.

THE BEEF

FitnessFrenzy · « **Reply #80 on:** June 27, 2015, 03:10:23 PM »

Quote from: Hurricane Beef ! on June 27, 2015, 03:04:52 PM

A big part of the reason vic was kicked off ironage was because he claimed Joe was a racist and cited him not putting Sergio on the cover of Muscle Builder as proof of that. vic was out of fucken line.

THE BEEF

Basile is an honest and mentally well balanced gentleman, and I refuse to believe that he has engaged in such behaviour in the past.

Teutonic Knight · « **Reply #81 on:** June 27, 2015, 03:15:46 PM »

Quote from: Hurricane Beef ! on June 27, 2015, 03:04:52 PM

A big part of the reason vic was kicked off ironage was because he claimed Joe was a racist and cited him not putting Sergio on the cover of Muscle Builder as proof of that. vic was out of fucken line.

THE BEEF

Basile is World class loser ...................

Refreshing news: very soon old Vincenza will be on restricted driving licence

, time lord is after him too..................... ................

Hurricane Beef ! · « **Reply #82 on:** June 27, 2015, 04:44:20 PM »

Restricted license, do tell.

THE BEEF

Teutonic Knight · « **Reply #83 on:** June 27, 2015, 10:24:12 PM »

Quote from: Hurricane Beef ! on June 27, 2015, 04:44:20 PM

Restricted license, do tell.

THE BEEF

Old farts like him eventually get restricted , they can drive 30km max from theirs shacks

Mr.Time vs mr.Canada '70

, guess who win

Teutonic Knight · « **Reply #84 on:** June 28, 2015, 04:07:14 PM »

Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on June 27, 2015, 03:10:23 PM

Basile is an honest and mentally well balanced gentleman, and I refuse to believe that he has engaged in such behaviour in the past.

Earth is flat too................

thegamechanger · « **Reply #85 on:** June 29, 2015, 01:43:27 AM »

sold for 10k

Thespritz0 · « **Reply #86 on:** June 29, 2015, 02:33:08 AM »

Quote from: Vince B on June 23, 2015, 11:22:50 PM

The Sandow is a coveted award that few have won. We won't be seeing many ever go on sale while the champions are alive.

That means there might be some available from estates of champions who have died. Larry and Sergio are gone. I don't think

Sergio's trophies would come up for auction because Sergio Jr would treasure them. I wonder about Larry's estate.

Does anyone here know what has happened to Larry's trophies?

^^
When Larry won, he only got a CROWN for both 1965 & 1966, the Sandow came later when Frank Zane got it in 1977:
"Larry Scott, the first Mr. Olympia was never presented with the Sandow on stage for his two Olympia wins, nor was Sergio Oliva for any of his three victories."
"It reappeared briefly as a trophy in 1950 and then was resurrected most gloriously of all at the Mr. Olympia contest of 1977."

Vince B · « **Reply #87 on:** June 29, 2015, 02:44:49 AM »

Quote from: Thespritz0 on June 29, 2015, 02:33:08 AM

^^
When Larry won, he only got a CROWN for both 1965 & 1966, the Sandow came later when Frank Zane got it in 1977:
"Larry Scott, the first Mr. Olympia was never presented with the Sandow on stage for his two Olympia wins, nor was Sergio Oliva for any of his three victories."
"It reappeared briefly as a trophy in 1950 and then was resurrected most gloriously of all at the Mr. Olympia contest of 1977."

I stand corrected. You would think that Joe would have awarded Sandows to all the winners, even years later as a nice gesture. Wait, that would have cost a lot of money so Joe wouldn't have done that.

Whoever sold it insisted his identity not be disclosed.

Hurricane Beef ! · « **Reply #88 on:** June 29, 2015, 03:29:06 AM »

Quote from: thegamechanger on June 29, 2015, 01:43:27 AM

sold for 10k

Over on RX they think it was either Ronnie or Frank who sold their Sandow. THE BEEF thinks Dickerson, he's mid 70's, his health is not the best, he has no kids to leave it to and he never made the money the current guys make.

THE BEEF

Thespritz0 · « **Reply #89 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:27:13 AM »

Zane with his 3 Sandow statues 1977, 78, 79

thegamechanger · « **Reply #90 on:** June 29, 2015, 01:41:19 PM »

which getbigger bought it?

Teutonic Knight · « **Reply #91 on:** June 29, 2015, 02:57:12 PM »

Quote from: Vince B on June 29, 2015, 02:44:49 AM

I stand corrected. You would think that Joe would have awarded Sandows to all the winners, even years later as a nice gesture. Wait, that would have cost a lot of money so Joe wouldn't have done that.

Whoever sold it insisted his identity not be disclosed.

Says WHO, plastic trophy presenter

Pet shop boys · « **Reply #92 on:** June 30, 2015, 03:41:49 AM »

Quote from: Thespritz0 on June 29, 2015, 09:27:13 AM

Zane with his 3 Sandow statues 1977, 78, 79

Don't mean to hijack this thread but boy Sammir Banout 1983 smokes any version of Frank Zane.

Woooshhhhhh

FitnessFrenzy · « **Reply #93 on:** June 30, 2015, 03:47:31 AM »

Quote from: thegamechanger on June 29, 2015, 01:41:19 PM

which getbigger bought it?

Uncle Joon. He will give it to BigRo.

Never1AShow · « **Reply #94 on:** July 30, 2016, 09:48:08 AM »

Quote from: thegamechanger on June 29, 2015, 01:43:27 AM

sold for 10k

Whose Sandow was this that sold for 10K? Bannout? Dickerson?

TheShape. · « **Reply #95 on:** July 30, 2016, 04:57:54 PM »

Quote from: Pet shop boys on June 30, 2015, 03:41:49 AM

Don't mean to hijack this thread but boy Sammir Banout 1983 smokes any version of Frank Zane.

Woooshhhhhh

Samir's physique was amazing. Gold standard for his height in my books.

SquidVicious · « **Reply #96 on:** August 01, 2016, 04:10:56 PM »

Quote from: TheShape. on July 30, 2016, 04:57:54 PM

Samir's physique was amazing. Gold standard for his height in my books.

Wide waisted. Otherwise incredible.

Louiscyr3 · « **Reply #97 on:** March 06, 2023, 10:22:38 AM »

Hi. Wondering if anyone has a reasonably priced Sandow statue for sale? Also, are there any 3-D printer versions of the classic Sandow statue that you could recommend? I would be looking for a statue 12 inches or larger in a material suitable for display to compliment my Louis Cyr plaster statue to demonstrate the contrast between the two. Thank you for any suggestions or information you can supply. All the best.
Eric

wes · « **Reply #98 on:** March 06, 2023, 10:27:04 AM »

Quote from: Louiscyr3 on March 06, 2023, 10:22:38 AM

Hi. Wondering if anyone has a reasonably priced Sandow statue for sale? Also, are there any 3-D printer versions of the classic Sandow statue that you could recommend? I would be looking for a statue 12 inches or larger in a material suitable for display to compliment my Louis Cyr plaster statue to demonstrate the contrast between the two. Thank you for any suggestions or information you can supply. All the best.
Eric

I have 8 Sandows if you`re interested !!

wazhazbin · « **Reply #99 on:** March 06, 2023, 10:28:49 AM »

Quote from: Louiscyr3 on March 06, 2023, 10:22:38 AM

Hi. Wondering if anyone has a reasonably priced Sandow statue for sale? Also, are there any 3-D printer versions of the classic Sandow statue that you could recommend? I would be looking for a statue 12 inches or larger in a material suitable for display to compliment my Louis Cyr plaster statue to demonstrate the contrast between the two. Thank you for any suggestions or information you can supply. All the best.
Eric

i've got a pair of Sandow split grip dumbells from the 1800s. including the original packaging and instructions.