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Why are you convinced that he made up a story that made him look like a coward? Not all robberies are recorded or reported things happen everyday in the world that are illegal that nobody knows about....

Popeye's is a national chain.  This was an armed robbery? 

Think it thru... Cain witnesses the robbery, the armed man then robs the place... then what?  The clerk just *explains away* the missing cash? 

If only for "i'm gonna be fired if I cannot explain this missing money..." the police would be called.

It's shady.  He's shady.  If he'll just make up a robbery for street credibility on an issue... Well, I think he just made it up on the fly.

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Good rebuttle.   You proved my point about being unintelligent, because you Cleary didn't comprehend my post in response to true adonis.  I said there is no chance he believes that,  and if he says he does, he is a liar.  Would it be the first time an intelligent person used religion to manipulate the intellectually inferior people like you? It happend all the time. 

I get that you think your daddy was a smarter mechanic than guys like carson.  Quite the opposite.  Carson would have turned a wrench way better than your daddy and diagnosed that engine problem much quicker.  Those jobs don't challenge guys of higher intelligence.  Guys like that end up designing the engine that your daddy worked on

LOL.  All this coming from a dishwasher.

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You are the pseudo-intellectual the pseudo-intellectuals target.  That is why you and 240 gave us what we have now.

Versus Republicans?

LOLOL  The Republican debate was so childish as all seem to be.

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Why are you convinced that he made up a story that made him look like a coward? Not all robberies are recorded or reported things happen everyday in the world that are illegal that nobody knows about....

Yeah, because it is company policy only to report every other robbery.

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Yeah ok "Doc".....sorry but that's capitalism. You want socialism...with Ol Bernie or Hil telling us who is allowed to get rich? Has Hillary forgone any luxuries? How does she get to her vacations...does she cook her meals? Nope she is the 1% dipshit. This crap will never ever change. And you blame the Koch brothers?!!! Because George fucking Soros made his billions feeding the poor and commuting on a 10 speed.You silly libs.  



That's my point, capitalism doesn't work in it's current incarnation. I don't blame anyone in particular, you are unable to understand my point. I will cease responding to you. I said nothing along the lines of what you are suggesting.

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That's my point, capitalism doesn't work in it's current incarnation. I don't blame anyone in particular, you are unable to understand my point. I will cease responding to you. I said nothing along the lines of what you are suggesting.

Of course it does. 

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That's my point, capitalism doesn't work in it's current incarnation.

the country is 18 trillion in debt and borrowing from our enemies to stay afloat.

yeah, i'd say a slight tweaking is in order.  Anyone saying "of course it does" just doesn't care about the future of our nation.

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the country is 18 trillion in debt and borrowing from our enemies to stay afloat.

yeah, i'd say a slight tweaking is in order.  Anyone saying "of course it does" just doesn't care about the future of our nation.

Or someone who claims that the country was better off in 2008 than it is now.

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Of course it does. 

Ya it's working perfectly ::)

You can't possibly fathom improvements? to sit back and say the system is working is hilarious, it's great for progress, but we are actively destroying our home to make money, how retarded do you have to be?

Complete lack of foresight.

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We need another Reagan-esque time in our country where we all make a few years of sacrifice for the betterment and improvement of the economy moving forward. The republicans take the bad statistics en-route to making the economy better for future years while democrats take advantage and advantage until we need to make sacrifices again. Trumps plan is very similar and would bring great success to the economy for the next 30-40 years if we can get past a  small hump of a few years...There is always a time you need to reset...Not necessarily change



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We need another Reagan-esque time in our country where we all make a few years of sacrifice for the betterment and improvement of the economy moving forward. The republicans take the bad statistics en-route to making the economy better for future years while democrats take advantage and advantage until we need to make sacrifices again. Trumps plan is very similar and would bring great success to the economy for the next 30-40 years if we can get past a  small hump of a few years...There is always a time you need to reset...Not necessarily change




ya the great recession was perfect, thanks Repubs!

or looked at another way.

The repubs come in a fuck up everything with their retarded economics (trickle down into offshore accounts)which then has to be cleaned up.

Which theory seems correct?

Bush had a surplus, how the fuck is that bad stats? he literally did the opposite of what you are stating, he took good stats and shit all over them, only then to be cleaned up by Obama.

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ya the great recession was perfect, thanks Repubs!

or looked at another way.

The repubs come in a fuck up everything with their retarded economics (trickle down into offshore accounts)which then has to be cleaned up.

Which theory seems correct?

Bush had a surplus, how the fuck is that bad stats? he literally did the opposite of what you are stating, he took good stats and shit all over them, only then to be cleaned up by Obama.

You might as well find a wall to bang your head against.  You can't teach stupid.

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ya the great recession was perfect, thanks Repubs!

or looked at another way.

The repubs come in a fuck up everything with their retarded economics (trickle down into offshore accounts)which then has to be cleaned up.

Which theory seems correct?

Bush had a surplus, how the fuck is that bad stats? he literally did the opposite of what you are stating, he took good stats and shit all over them, only then to be cleaned up by Obama.
Ive asked many people and never got a response, in what way were the republicans responsible for the recession?

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Ive asked many people and never got a response, in what way were the republicans responsible for the recession?

    1. Deregulated Wall Street: It was a great time to be a Wall Street executive during the Bush administration. Sweeping financial deregulation helped build the housing bubble and allowed financial institutions to pursue risky trades unchecked. In fact, Bush eliminated the rules that allowed Wall Street to cause the financial crash that plunged the nation into the Great Recession.

    2. Cut Taxes For The Wealthy: The Bush tax cuts — over 50 percent of which benefited the richest 5 percent of American taxpayers — cost about $2.5 trillion over the decade after they were enacted. Ten years later, Bush’s tax cuts are still the main driving factor of the national debt:

    3. Ran Up A Tab On Two Wars: The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost the country trillions of dollars. Combined with Bush’s tax cuts, war spending was a main factor in blowing up the deficit and spending the surplus accumulated under Clinton. Lawmakers now use the deficit as an excuse for inaction.

    4. Left Homeowners In A Lurch: While Bush was happy to help out the banks in the wake of the housing crisis, he did little to assist struggling homeowners. Hope For Homeowners, Bush’s proposal to assist those struggling with their mortgages, was a colossal failure; in its first six months, it helped just one homeowner renegotiate his mortgage. Many mortgage holders — 15.7 million or, one in three — are still underwater today.

    5. Weakened Workers: Bush weakened worker safety regulations and collective bargaining rights under the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and the Department of Labor throughout his time in office. Today, corporations are back to making record profits, while workers’ incomes are falling.

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Ive asked many people and never got a response, in what way were the republicans responsible for the recession?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Recession

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    1. Deregulated Wall Street: It was a great time to be a Wall Street executive during the Bush administration. Sweeping financial deregulation helped build the housing bubble and allowed financial institutions to pursue risky trades unchecked. In fact, Bush eliminated the rules that allowed Wall Street to cause the financial crash that plunged the nation into the Great Recession.

    2. Cut Taxes For The Wealthy: The Bush tax cuts — over 50 percent of which benefited the richest 5 percent of American taxpayers — cost about $2.5 trillion over the decade after they were enacted. Ten years later, Bush’s tax cuts are still the main driving factor of the national debt:

    3. Ran Up A Tab On Two Wars: The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost the country trillions of dollars. Combined with Bush’s tax cuts, war spending was a main factor in blowing up the deficit and spending the surplus accumulated under Clinton. Lawmakers now use the deficit as an excuse for inaction.

    4. Left Homeowners In A Lurch: While Bush was happy to help out the banks in the wake of the housing crisis, he did little to assist struggling homeowners. Hope For Homeowners, Bush’s proposal to assist those struggling with their mortgages, was a colossal failure; in its first six months, it helped just one homeowner renegotiate his mortgage. Many mortgage holders — 15.7 million or, one in three — are still underwater today.

    5. Weakened Workers: Bush weakened worker safety regulations and collective bargaining rights under the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and the Department of Labor throughout his time in office. Today, corporations are back to making record profits, while workers’ incomes are falling.
1. please tell me what regulations youre talking about, LOL dems passed regulations too that led to the housing crisis...so what ones for the republicans do you believe led to the housing crisis?

2. How did the national debt contribute to the crisis? I agree its expanded rapidly under bush and OBAMA but how did it contribute to the recession?

3. Same as question 2

4. LOL we were literally days away from the country going to shit if the banks didnt get help...take it for what its worth but it was absolutely a necessary evil. You think the recession was bad b/c the banks got bailed out? you cant even imagine what if would have been like if they had been allowed to fail. The homeowners share no responsibility in your mind? the people who took out mortgages on homes they knew they couldnt afford?

5. LOL corporations are making record profits b/c they had to become alot more efficient as a result of the recession. Please post your proof that this lead to a deeper recession.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Recession
from your own link, not that I trust wiki links ::)

The origin of these housing bubbles involves two major factors: 1) Low interest rates in the U.S. and Europe following the 2000-2001 U.S. recession; and 2) Significant growth in savings available from developing nations due to ongoing trade imbalances.[9] These factors drove a large increase in demand for high-yield investments. Large investment banks connected the housing markets to this large supply of savings via innovative new securities, fueling housing bubbles in the U.S. and Europe.[10]

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from your own link, not that I trust wiki links ::)

The origin of these housing bubbles involves two major factors: 1) Low interest rates in the U.S. and Europe following the 2000-2001 U.S. recession; and 2) Significant growth in savings available from developing nations due to ongoing trade imbalances.[9] These factors drove a large increase in demand for high-yield investments. Large investment banks connected the housing markets to this large supply of savings via innovative new securities, fueling housing bubbles in the U.S. and Europe.[10]

the eyes see what the heart tells it to.

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Again from your own link TA...

There are several "narratives" attempting to place the causes of the crisis into context, with overlapping elements. Five such narratives include:

There was the equivalent of a bank run on the shadow banking system, which includes investment banks and other non-depository financial entities. This system had grown to rival the depository system in scale yet was not subject to the same regulatory safeguards.[3]

The economy was being driven by a housing bubble. When it burst, private residential investment (i.e., housing construction) fell by nearly 4%. GDP and consumption enabled by bubble-generated housing wealth also slowed. This created a gap in annual demand (GDP) of nearly $1 trillion. Government was unwilling to make up for this private sector shortfall.[15][16]

Record levels of household debt accumulated in the decades preceding the crisis resulted in a "balance sheet recession" once housing prices began falling in 2006. Consumers began paying down debt, which reduces their consumption, slowing down the economy for an extended period while debt levels are reduced.[3][17]

Government policies that encouraged home ownership even for those who could not afford it, contributing to lax lending standards, unsustainable housing price increases, and indebtedness.[18]


The financial turmoil induced an increase in money demand (precautionary hoarding). This increase in money demand triggered a corresponding decline in commodity demand.[19]

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from your own link, not that I trust wiki links ::)

The origin of these housing bubbles involves two major factors: 1) Low interest rates in the U.S. and Europe following the 2000-2001 U.S. recession; and 2) Significant growth in savings available from developing nations due to ongoing trade imbalances.[9] These factors drove a large increase in demand for high-yield investments. Large investment banks connected the housing markets to this large supply of savings via innovative new securities, fueling housing bubbles in the U.S. and Europe.[10]
Why would you not trust wiki links?  Do you not realize that its all sourced and that you can click on the sources which take you to the information directly?  ???


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Again from your own link TA...

There are several "narratives" attempting to place the causes of the crisis into context, with overlapping elements. Five such narratives include:

There was the equivalent of a bank run on the shadow banking system, which includes investment banks and other non-depository financial entities. This system had grown to rival the depository system in scale yet was not subject to the same regulatory safeguards.[3]

The economy was being driven by a housing bubble. When it burst, private residential investment (i.e., housing construction) fell by nearly 4%. GDP and consumption enabled by bubble-generated housing wealth also slowed. This created a gap in annual demand (GDP) of nearly $1 trillion. Government was unwilling to make up for this private sector shortfall.[15][16]

Record levels of household debt accumulated in the decades preceding the crisis resulted in a "balance sheet recession" once housing prices began falling in 2006. Consumers began paying down debt, which reduces their consumption, slowing down the economy for an extended period while debt levels are reduced.[3][17]

Government policies that encouraged home ownership even for those who could not afford it, contributing to lax lending standards, unsustainable housing price increases, and indebtedness.[18]


The financial turmoil induced an increase in money demand (precautionary hoarding). This increase in money demand triggered a corresponding decline in commodity demand.[19]
Keep reading.   ;)

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Keep reading.   ;)
plenty of info their, why dont you post the relevant parts in your mind.

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That's my point, capitalism doesn't work in it's current incarnation. I don't blame anyone in particular, you are unable to understand my point. I will cease responding to you. I said nothing along the lines of what you are suggesting.
im reminded of the quote "capitalism is the worst form of government, except for all the rest"

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im reminded of the quote "capitalism is the worst form of government, except for all the rest"

I'm reminded of the quote "capitalism run a muck is called fascism".