Barry....Busted...AGAIN!!

[ieffinhatecardio]

Why is it incredible?The guy was getting older and he extended and improved his career.He doesnt give a dam about the Hall of fame and he will get in anyway because he has 7 MVPs.If breaking the law is cheating then please explain how Ty Cobb is in the hall,he killed a guy.There are many shady law breakers in the Hall of fame,breaking the law is NOT CHEATING,breaking the rules is cheating.

It's incredible because he's made a mockery of his career. Four of those MVP's were awarded to him AFTER he started juicing, more MVP's than he earned in the previous 12 years. His game completely and utterly changed. He was a five tool player. He and Griffey Jr. were the best players in the game but he decided he wanted to hit more HRs because of all the attention McGwire and Sosa were getting. You don't find anything incredible about that? His game is one dimensional now, he doesn't care about defense and he can't run anymore so all he does is hit for power and walk. He shouldn't be in the National League anymore, he can't play defense, he's a liability defensively.

He was Willie Mays but he decided to juice and he became a DH.  Why are you bringing up Ty Cobb? What does he have to do with Bonds? Cobb played nearly a century ago.

[K-1]

1. Great Ball Player
2. Sh*tty Person
3. Hated By Media b/c he hates them too
4. Media or Sportswriters vote on Hall of Fame
5. Took Steroids
6. Everyone else does too, they just arent as good as Barry


He is the end result of many entities in the sport which have contributed to the steroid culture within the MLB, people want to disqualify his records and so forth but I ask you this... What if he only hit 400 homers and never hit 73 homers in one year....would we still give him the asterick or say that he was this and that.. they never ever ever caught him ...?? JUST like there are all the other ballplayers on the juice who dont put up barry numbers but we have let them be ... hmmmm ..

I agree...

[ieffinhatecardio]

1. Great Ball Player
2. Sh*tty Person
3. Hated By Media b/c he hates them too
4. Media or Sportswriters vote on Hall of Fame
5. Took Steroids
6. Everyone else does too, they just arent as good as Barry


He is the end result of many entities in the sport which have contributed to the steroid culture within the MLB, people want to disqualify his records and so forth but I ask you this... What if he only hit 400 homers and never hit 73 homers in one year....would we still give him the asterick or say that he was this and that.. they never ever ever caught him ...?? JUST like there are all the other ballplayers on the juice who dont put up barry numbers but we have let them be ... hmmmm ..

It's curious that after Maris hit 61 no one until McGwire hit 58 in 97' really came close to hitting 60 in one season. After 97' it happened many times culminating in Bonds' 73, which actually would have been 90 if opposing pitchers actually pitched to him instead of walking him. After the 73 no one has come close again.

MLB had one brief period of astronomical HR hitting and the two players with the most impressive stats during that peroid were in their late 30's and at least in the case of Bonds had never even come close to hitting 50 in one season.

The integrity of the game was blemished in those years. The reason gambling is the biggest offense a player can commit is because it effects the integrity of the game. That whole 5-6 year period of insane HR numbers will have the same effect, people will look at those numbers as artificially inflated.

And what the hell is MLB going to do if Bonds passes Ruth and Aaron? He is the last person they want holding the most hallowed record in all of sports.

[sarcasm]

Will you shut the f*ck up with your stupid ass comments? Add something to the discussion instead of sounding like you're f*cking 13 years old. God, I'd like to meet you and kick your ass. You need it, dude. You're a little bitch.

hahahaha, you're so easy "upinthemguts", oh brother what a name............meltdown .

[jaejonna]

He is the last person they want holding the most hallowed record in all of sports.

And that is what the problem is nobody wants Bonds to hold the record , cause nobody likes him outside of San Francisco... the same thing goes for all the outta shape sports writers who dont know the type of training a professional athlete of Bonds' level has to endure, there are a set of rules which state that he has to be tested and so forth, he has passed those test and never been suspended for use..is it his problem ?? what would you do now cause he is hated on, he will be smeared till the day he dies..

[bmacsys]

It's curious that after Maris hit 61 no one until McGwire hit 58 in 97' really came close to hitting 60 in one season. After 97' it happened many times culminating in Bonds' 73, which actually would have been 90 if opposing pitchers actually pitched to him instead of walking him. After the 73 no one has come close again.

MLB had one brief period of astronomical HR hitting and the two players with the most impressive stats during that peroid were in their late 30's and at least in the case of Bonds had never even come close to hitting 50 in one season.

The integrity of the game was blemished in those years. The reason gambling is the biggest offense a player can commit is because it effects the integrity of the game. That whole 5-6 year period of insane HR numbers will have the same effect, people will look at those numbers as artificially inflated.

And what the hell is MLB going to do if Bonds passes Ruth and Aaron? He is the last person they want holding the most hallowed record in all of sports.

You hit the nail on the head. The period from 1994 to 2004 the home run records and rbi totals are a total sham. Brady anderson hits 50 dingers. Palmiero goes from a total of 78 his first 8 years in the league to 45 the first year in Texas playing alongside Mr. Juice himself Canseco. That guy from Arizona, Gonzales hits 57. Sosa averages over 60 four years running. Singles hitters now start hitting 25 taters like kevin Elster. Juan Gone looks like the Hulk. Overnight guys turn into instant Reggie Jackson's. Its a joke if you are a REAL BASEBALL FAN and value the integrity of the game. Guys like Mays, Aaron, Mantle, Ruth, Frank Robinson. Their stats that were legit are being overshadowed. Its a shame.

[buffbodz]

Ease up, this ain't a Macy's day parade.....

A guy like Bonds knows he's made his bed, but he doesn't care, it's worth it to be his own man, be an asshole etc..as long as he can call his own shots.

He was realer than McGwire.  McGwire lied and cheated so he's no better than Bonds.  The sooner you kids realize that, the better off you'll be.

When you can do the things that Bonds can, you can be an asshole.....

It's that simple.

NOT......A person in Bonds possision should be a role model for up and comming baseball players.  How many guys are superstars and arn't assholes.  Bonds in a racest, liar and cheater.  He say's He thought He was taking Flax oil   He's not too bright either.




DIV

[pumpster]

He didn't have to sacrifice so much athleticism while getting bigger, if he'd trained and dieted differently. Could've retained much of the previous athleticism along with the higher reaction times and power.

When the homerun totals started going up drastically, I can remember that the press didn't have a clue, wrote articles on the possibilities that the ball had changed without considering roids, wasn't even mentioned.

Ben Johnson was way ahead of the curve and paid a higher price for it.

[tom joad]

Brady anderson hits 50 dingers.

ha ha ha  nothin suspicious about that.

[ieffinhatecardio]

You hit the nail on the head. The period from 1994 to 2004 the home run records and rbi totals are a total sham. Brady anderson hits 50 dingers. Palmiero goes from a total of 78 his first 8 years in the league to 45 the first year in Texas playing alongside Mr. Juice himself Canseco. That guy from Arizona, Gonzales hits 57. Sosa averages over 60 four years running. Singles hitters now start hitting 25 taters like kevin Elster. Juan Gone looks like the Hulk. Overnight guys turn into instant Reggie Jackson's. Its a joke if you are a REAL BASEBALL FAN and value the integrity of the game. Guys like Mays, Aaron, Mantle, Ruth, Frank Robinson. Their stats that were legit are being overshadowed. Its a shame.

I completely forgot about Brady Anderson, at least McGwire and Bonds were power hitters before they chemically enhanced themselves. Anderson was a singles hitting lead off hitter that hit a meteoric 50 HR's one season. What a joke that is. Same with Gonzalez, did he hit anything close to 57 before 94'? Has he hit anything close to 57 since?

I didn't even take into account the players who all of a sudden hit 3-500% more round trippers. They are a better indicator of how skewered the numbers are during that period than are the numbers of Bonds and McGwire.

Brady Anderson hitting 50, what a effin joke.

Palmeiro is another excellent example with his single season total ballooning to 45, especially after spending a year with Canseco.

[K-1]

It's curious that after Maris hit 61 no one until McGwire hit 58 in 97' really came close to hitting 60 in one season. After 97' it happened many times culminating in Bonds' 73, which actually would have been 90 if opposing pitchers actually pitched to him instead of walking him. After the 73 no one has come close again.

MLB had one brief period of astronomical HR hitting and the two players with the most impressive stats during that peroid were in their late 30's and at least in the case of Bonds had never even come close to hitting 50 in one season.

The integrity of the game was blemished in those years. The reason gambling is the biggest offense a player can commit is because it effects the integrity of the game. That whole 5-6 year period of insane HR numbers will have the same effect, people will look at those numbers as artificially inflated.

And what the hell is MLB going to do if Bonds passes Ruth and Aaron? He is the last person they want holding the most hallowed record in all of sports.

....and that nice 5-yr stretch from sammy sure didn't catch anybodies attention...NOT! Guy hit 307 HR's over a 5 years span...61.4HR/YR....c'mon. I remember back in 98-2002, while serving in the military, when these guys started jacking bombs left and right(had a few other guys sprinkled in there also ex. Richard Hidalgo 2000- 44 hr previous career best 15hr, L. Gonzalez hit 57 hr in 2001 previous best was like 31). The list goes on and on if you really paid attention back then to how many average joe players were hitting 40-50 hr all of a sudden.

 Me and the guys would joke about how obvious it was that these guys were on something back then.

[Drij]

I never watch baseball, but I think around this time when all the big hits were coming out that was when baseball regained it's popularity back. He or anyone else wasn't doing anything illegal if it wasn't against the rules in the MLB.

[ieffinhatecardio]

....and that nice 5-yr stretch from sammy sure didn't catch anybodies attention...NOT! Guy hit 307 HR's over a 5 years span...61.4HR/YR....c'mon. I remember back in 98-2002, while serving in the military, when these guys started jacking bombs left and right(had a few other guys sprinkled in there also ex. Richard Hidalgo 2000- 44 hr previous career best 15hr, L. Gonzalez hit 57 hr in 2001 previous best was like 31). The list goes on and on if you really paid attention back then to how many average joe players were hitting 40-50 hr all of a sudden.

 Me and the guys would joke about how obvious it was that these guys were on something back then.

Of course the only difference between Bonds, McGwire and Sosa and those other players is that none of those other players hit an insane number like 66, 70 or 73, and as I said Bonds would have hit 90 if he was actually pitched to. Brady Anderson is the most obvious example and he really should be the poster boy for steroids and the MLB.

[Mr. Intenseone]

 

[bmacsys]

I never watch baseball, but I think around this time when all the big hits were coming out that was when baseball regained it's popularity back. He or anyone else wasn't doing anything illegal if it wasn't against the rules in the MLB.

Yes, the home run binge in the mid 90's till about 2003 brought lots of fans back to the game after the 1994/1995 lockout. Me, I get tired of all the 13 to 9 games with all the pitching changes that take 3.5 hours to complete. In my day Catfish Hunter and Jim Palmer would hook up and the game would be 3 to 2 and take under two hours with the Yankees winning!

[tom joad]

He is no Hank Aaron but the game evolved, he evolved with it . . .

out,
S. Ray

Why all the bitchin' and moanin' about the skewed power stats?  Shawn says the game "evolved" and Bonds just "evolved" with it.  ha ha ha  Yes, some players have had to increase their own cap size during their careers because of evolution. 

[Drij]

mcguire was taking things when he started then!

[dmorgan41178]

I agree Shawn, but you and I both know that steroids doesnt make people hit the ball more often. That is what we call hand/eye coordination, right? I mean if others use AAS in baseball why are there not more homerun kings. Oh, why cant we put top BB'rs that use in a ballfield and they should just start knocking homeruns, right? On that note, Barry has been knocking balls out of the park before 1998, which the new BS book claims he started AAS. So if steroids could only make Barry stronger and he was already knocking them beyond the fence, he could only hope to knock them farther on AAS but not more homeruns. hummmm. The whole attack on steroids is a joke. Cigarettes have no advantage or health good nor does alcohol, but they are used legally and abused and cause a laundry list of health related problems. Im of the opinion that if I can risk a multitude of legal and health issues related to alcohol and its use and abuse, then I should have that same right as it relates to improving my physique or strength.
Surely Shawn you are not really one of these guys who did what you had to do to produce incredible gains and an impressive physique then turn 180 to say damn the AAS and Lord help those who are spiraling out of control and losing their minds using the stuff and living alternative lifestyles and abusing rec drugs and beating their wives and stuff like that are you.
I generally watch what you post and from the times I have seen you in your videos etc, you appear to be very intelligent and insightful. I just hope you are not a basher of athletes. I think AAS is a personal decision. I dont consider it cheating anymore than a swimmer using a special suit to reduce friction or resistance in the water or utilizing special equipment such as gloves or bats or track shoes. Lets face it there are guys i know that get ridiculous gains from d-bol or anadrol. however, other i know gain strength but not size. genetics are the deciding factor of how far one may push the limits and the overall appearance of that physique not drugs. there are still things involved in competition like diet, exercise, dedication, training, natural ability, hand eye coordination, etc.

sorry Shawn didnt mean to ramble on, but I got an earful of this same bullshit from coworkers in my office for my opinion of Bonds being a cheater.
lastly, if you accuse someone of using you should be able to quote a more reliabe source than an estrange bitch girlfriend. when you show me Bonds blood results, pics of him using, or his admission I pay it attention, he said she said is for fucking punk bitches.

He is not a Terd lest you believe everyone else is Natural!
Everyone was on this guys jock suddenly there's proof it wasn't all him and we turn?
He is no Hank Aaron but the game evolved, he evolved with it along with other greats we know some used and others didn't but I think America feels their entitled to a Confession but in reality who cares, it is his body, his life and he did what the Sport ALLOWED him to do!
Now if the NFL Users all turned green including Kicker and Punters you'd be surprised at how many are juicing.
Not approving of it but we praise our BBers and point fingers at othere sports, it's sad.
In reality, who cares, perform and entertain me, that's what I'm thinking when I pay to watch a game or athlete. What they have to do inorder to achieve that is on them. They reap the reward and suffer the consequences of what they have to do in order to get my money.
out,
S. Ray

[dmorgan41178]

just one thing. Tim Montgomery lost his medals and world record title not being found dirty by testing or proof. No this guy loses it all on the testimony of a bitch who got popped herself. So its open season on athletes and we are going to take the word of someone thats busted trying to save their own ass. The beautiful and talented Marion Jones couldnt get her mind right for time trials and the olympics behind the witch hunt for her and the BALCO crew. Of course she gets thrown under the bus by what, a jealous estranged busted washed up exhubby. hummmmmmmm. pieces of shit proving no integrity have found Jesus and a good word to rat out someone else. whatever. dont we have other shit to worry about. hey, Iran is cheating too, getting nuclear weapons?

[pumpster]

Actually, steroids *would* cause you to hit the ball more often, by increasing reaction times and explosiveness, precisely what helped Ben Johnson's start in the 100 M.

Here is an excerpt from the book:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/03/06/growth0313/index.html

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/

[dmorgan41178]

perhaps increase what you are capable of doing anyway. everyone that juices doesnt set world records. if so then they would breaking records every year. see what im saying. i think people put way too much into the power of steroids over God given talent and desire and training and etc.
i am not saying steroids do not assist. i certainly do know they can. i am arguing the level across the board not the one guy who takes a 6 week cycle of test and anadrol and goes from looking like opey to gunter.

[Frank White]

Frank, since you've been away the game has changed.  There are new players. The scene is ripe for the taking. 

What's your next move?





DIV 

Time to get paid

Blow up like the World Trade

And if ya don't know- now ya know............nugga.

[gdavidx28]

I have more respect for Canseco, he has "huevos"

[hifrommike]

The woman Bonds had an affair with was reportedly angry that he didn't buy her a house, as he said he would.  That doesn't mean she is incorrect in her information, & if she has phone logs that really can't be falsified.  But she is hardly a disinterested party, & a lot of her info is payback. 

[Croatch]

Another athlete who has little character and is full of shit on top of that.  I'd want to be respected by my family and not drag them into a bunch of bullshit, so I wouldn't go the juice route.  Maybe you won't hit 95 home runs a season, but at least whatever your numbers are, are actually yours.  Of course, many athletes juice, be a leader, not a fucking sheep. 
Maybe I would juice if millions wear on the line, but then again, maybe I would just say...fuck those juiceheads and do my own thing...haha.