Decline movements..........

[chaos]

A conflict between a muscle's recovery time & training frequency

Good definition. How does that apply in a single training session though?
I thinking overtraining is thrown around way too much. I usually train for 1 1/2 - 2 hrs at a time. This 45 minutes and out idea is lame.

[iwantmass]

Good definition. How does that apply in a single training session though?
I thinking overtraining is thrown around way too much. I usually train for 1 1/2 - 2 hrs at a time. This 45 minutes and out idea is lame.

Lame in what sense? If a person could obtain the same physique results in the 45 minute period, it seems efficient.  Now, if we are talking about enjoying your training, that is an entirely different thing.  Train away

[chaos]

Lame in what sense? If a person could obtain the same physique results in the 45 minute period, it seems efficient.  Now, if we are talking about enjoying your training, that is an entirely different thing.  Train away

Let me clarify, if you finish your workout in 45 min, great. If you set a goal that you have to finish in 45 minutes, lame.

[Henda]

that is one of the better and most simple answers to describe it! The word "conflict" strengthens the sentence so well.

Still have no idea how anyone can train more than once a week. Not saying it's wrong, just not "right" for me.

I agree, have tried the twice per week approach many times, the telltale aches, lack of motivation for training, general fatigue bullshit appear in a few weeks.

[DroppingPlates]

Good definition. How does that apply in a single training session though?
I thinking overtraining is thrown around way too much. I usually train for 1 1/2 - 2 hrs at a time. This 45 minutes and out idea is lame.

I believe it doesn't matters that much how long you train, as long as it doesn't becomes too extreme. Some guys do low volume, others do high and the same goes for rest time between sets. At the end of the day, all camps book progress for the simple fact that their training style matches their beliefs.
There's no overtraining in my book as long as you take the necessary time to recover. Because of this, I don't train every muscle with the same frequency, call it autoregulation.

[Donny]

I agree, have tried the twice per week approach many times, the telltale aches, lack of motivation for training, general fatigue bullshit appear in a few weeks.

Some can train each muscle 2x a week with intensity but the volume meaning overall sets must be reduced in each workout.

[Henda]

Some can train each muscle 2x a week with intensity but the volume meaning overall sets must be reduced in each workout.

I tried every way I could, ultra low volume, heavy/light, one day volume ect and none worked for me, once every 5 days was the most frequency I could handle

[ritch]

What are your thoughts on soreness and training frequency?  Do you feel that soreness is an indication a muscle isn't ready to be trained again?

100% yes.
If it's sore, it's stiff and not ready to go again. Some say light training increases recovery, that never worked for me.

[Donny]

Interesting quote from Gironda...