Jizmos Richie Rich Piano new year 5000lbs LBM gains log

[Jizmo]

Hmg had me from 0 sperm count to 108million in 12 weeks but was used in conjunction with hcg clomid and nolva, was hell but worth it now I have a little boy on the way.

Can't wait to see the results of this log. I'm going to have a bit of a play round with some new compounds to me over the next few months just have to abuse some tren and t3 to get rid of the holiday flab. Probably should have done it over the holiday period but oh well

exactly what im thinking. ive never really seen HMG not working for anyone if applied correctly. and then theres triptorelin too as last resort.

300mgs of tren per day at your highest, am I right? that's the most ive ever heard anyone admit to using. you looked every bit of it too!!!! statue.

this is really an average pro dosage i would guess. maz has ran it with low test and nothing else (or mast) iirc...
which makes it less harsh (of course not on the body, but regarding most side effects).
there are guys on promuscle who have ran 300, 400, 500mg or even more tren ace (i shit you not) a day on top other grams of other shit. i think one guy ran 4 grams of tren ace a week during comp. just for some low level competition. the guy had to be on painkillers, stims during the day and xanax and other shit at night to get to sleep iirc.
 but i love the forum since there are a lot of abusers who dont fuck around with their usage. its real talk

[equipoise]

exactly what im thinking. ive never really seen HMG not working for anyone if applied correctly. and then theres triptorelin too as last resort.

this is really an average pro dosage i would guess. maz has ran it with low test and nothing else (or mast) iirc...
which makes it less harsh (of course not on the body, but regarding most side effects).
there are guys on promuscle who have ran 300, 400, 500mg or even more tren ace (i shit you not) a day on top other grams of other shit. i think one guy ran 4 grams of tren ace a week during comp. just for some low level competition. the guy had to be on painkillers, stims during the day and xanax and other shit at night to get to sleep iirc.
 but i love the forum since there are a lot of abusers who dont fuck around with their usage. its real talk

is it even possible to run so much? if their tren underdosed or what? I once went up to what I thought was 200 mg tren a a day with a UK UGL. Harsh sides but still just about bearable. I switched over to alpha pharma tren and the absolute most I could take was 50mg a day. Makes me think the tren I was using was underdosed to fuck

[Jizmo]

is it even possible to run so much? if their tren underdosed or what? I once went up to what I thought was 200 mg tren a a day with a UK UGL. Harsh sides but still just about bearable. I switched over to alpha pharma tren and the absolute most I could take was 50mg a day. Makes me think the tren I was using was underdosed to fuck

of course. run tren long enough and you get somewhat immune to the sides...
i know the first time i used tren i lay awake in bed for 2-3 hours every night before getting to sleep and then sleep was really bad and i was drenching the sheets...
after a while this just stops (except the sweating, lol). USUALLY i sleep just as good on tren as off. except for when i raise the dosage or add it back in after being off it.

the night to yesterday and this night i slept like a baby again. really deep sleep, woke up well rested and full of energy after 8 hours... from experience i can say that the first 1-2 weeks on tren are always the worst imo, then you get used to it. i never run over a gram of tren, but some people even claim on higher dosages its more bearable than on moderate. i dont think 1.5g or 2g would be any worse than 1g to be honest...

had a weird injection into my quad yesterday... put in half of the syringe, then there was a sudden pressure and my leg suddenly started burning like fuck, so i pulled out, got light tren cough. then intense sharp pain in my quad for about 2-3 minutes, and the whole quad went red. after 3 minutes everything was fine again. probably pressurized a nerve with the oil or something. only had that 1-2 times before. finished my inject, leg workout yesterday was not impacted by that.

i actually had some extra time and foam rolled my quads and hams before my workout. holy shit, ive only done that sporadically but i already had DOMS before the first exercise lol. pump was really good. really heavy DOMS today - and a bit of pip  fells good
185lbs morning weight today. day 9. up 9lbs

[Jizmo]

187lbs today. up 11lbs.
fullness is BACK, this is usually the time where i start to get into peak condition. extremely happy with my look right now, night and day vs 2 weeks ago.
from experience it takes me about 2 weeks to be completely full again, then another 2 weeks until i start to spill over a bit and get watery. so weeks 2-4 are always the best look-wise. ill most likely post pics during week 4 then.

everything going as planned.

gym time is intense, i LOVE it when ive got enough carbs in my system. pumps are great, pouring sweat, look is great, weights are increasing.

diet is on point. gym days around 3500 kcals, sometimes a few 100 more. rest/cardio days end up always being somewhere between 2200-3000, depending on how much i ate on gym days. i sometimes go pretty low on cardio days, because im not that hungry when im not lifting anyway and as long as i gain weight i dont care.
changed my mind on keto on rest days. wont do that. i will go zero carbs here and there but only until my cardio session, after that ill have carbs, otherwise my intensity on weight days suffers.
calories remain the same, ill still average around 3000/3500 or slightly less. might increase kcals a bit in week 3 or 4 depending on weight gain.

i debated on whether i should actually decrease kcals a bit to hold peak condition for longer, but i have the feeling that this would hamper my progress...
plus i have always been a proponent of gradually increasing everything (increase gym time, food, AAS over the course of time).
havent made my mind up on that.
with my current calories i can eat a good amount of food till im full day in day out, never have to be hungry and never be too full or bloated either. digestion runs fine.  feeling good.

[equipoise]

187lbs today. up 11lbs.
fullness is BACK, this is usually the time where i start to get into peak condition. extremely happy with my look right now, night and day vs 2 weeks ago.
from experience it takes me about 2 weeks to be completely full again, then another 2 weeks until i start to spill over a bit and get watery. so weeks 2-4 are always the best look-wise. ill most likely post pics during week 4 then.

everything going as planned.

gym time is intense, i LOVE it when ive got enough carbs in my system. pumps are great, pouring sweat, look is great, weights are increasing.

diet is on point. gym days around 3500 kcals, sometimes a few 100 more. rest/cardio days end up always being somewhere between 2200-3000, depending on how much i ate on gym days. i sometimes go pretty low on cardio days, because im not that hungry when im not lifting anyway and as long as i gain weight i dont care.
changed my mind on keto on rest days. wont do that. i will go zero carbs here and there but only until my cardio session, after that ill have carbs, otherwise my intensity on weight days suffers.
calories remain the same, ill still average around 3000/3500 or slightly less. might increase kcals a bit in week 3 or 4 depending on weight gain.

i debated on whether i should actually decrease kcals a bit to hold peak condition for longer, but i have the feeling that this would hamper my progress...
plus i have always been a proponent of gradually increasing everything (increase gym time, food, AAS over the course of time).
havent made my mind up on that.
with my current calories i can eat a good amount of food till im full day in day out, never have to be hungry and never be too full or bloated either. digestion runs fine.  feeling good.

For some reason I find that tren gives me some digestive issues. Ever have the same problem?

[Mranabolic]

For some reason I find that tren gives me some digestive issues. Ever have the same problem?

Yes , run t3 with tren and no more digestion isues

[dj181]

plus i have always been a proponent of gradually increasing everything (increase gym time, food, AAS over the course of time).

so you're following in the footsteps of richie rich 

keep pressing on and as god would say.... "DON'T EVER QUIT" 

[Jizmo]

For some reason I find that tren gives me some digestive issues. Ever have the same problem?

Yes , run t3 with tren and no more digestion isues

you got this from me dont you?
yes, add t3 and no more issues at all. i think i was actually the first one to discover that, ive had countless guys PMing me on promuscle ever since lol
one of the reasons i decided to run t3 year round

so you're following in the footsteps of richie rich  

keep pressing on and as god would say.... "DON'T EVER QUIT"  

ive always did it that way
but i realized his principles etc have A LOT in common with what i consider useful or have experimented with...
cycle layout, "feeder workouts" (didnt even know a name for these existed lol), stomach vacuums, thats all stuff i regularly do and a while back i also did it every day
rich even has the same HDL as i do LOL

however some of the stuff he does is complete broscience too
like the way he staggers his injects... first he injects everything evenly distributed every other day, then after a couple weeks ALL the test on monday, ALL the tren on wednesday and ALL the mast on friday. what the fuck... "confuse the body" lol  more like hormonal rollercoaster and tons of side effects
he will put on the 30lbs and more nonetheless, im sure about that

[lilhawk1]

never used any nootropics apart from huperzine A (if that even is one lol, but i use it when on GH peps because of somatostatin inhibition. also allegedly improves memory so that should be a good supp anyway)...

my buddy is a medicine student and those guys live off modafinil. but i never had the desire to try it, sibutramine + ephedrine does the trick regarding appetite.. when i really need it. sibutramine makes you completely immune to its effects after a while though so ill probably only ever use it the final few weeks of my cuts

i use tren exclusively for bulking because it sends my appetite through the roof. i can walk through a burger king and not care, but i have a big sweettooth and on tren its WAY worse...
on a good amount of kcals i can live with the appetite/hunger (tren and MK677 is pretty bad in that regard lol) but for cutting thats a nightmare...


all the tren couldnt make up for the amount of kcals that i binged on at least once a week whenever i tried to cut on the stuff.
test+npp are completely side free for me so they make it so much easier...

Aside from GH and Test, Modafinil is the greatest drug there is.  I have a script for it from my doc for sleep apnea, and it is amazing.  Total clarity, focus, and alertness for 15 hours.  No side effects other than making your piss smell funny.  Workouts are unreal with it, does not hinder appetite like adderall.  All the docs I work with use it as well.  Can't speak for the stuff coming from overseas, but USA Modafinil is amazing stuff. 

[Mranabolic]

you got this from me dont you?
yes, add t3 and no more issues at all. i think i was actually the first one to discover that, ive had countless guys PMing me on promuscle ever since lol
one of the reasons i decided to run t3 year roundive always did it that way
but i realized his principles etc have A LOT in common with what i consider useful or have experimented with...
cycle layout, "feeder workouts" (didnt even know a name for these existed lol), stomach vacuums, thats all stuff i regularly do and a while back i also did it every day
rich even has the same HDL as i do LOL

however some of the stuff he does is complete broscience too
like the way he staggers his injects... first he injects everything evenly distributed every other day, then after a couple weeks ALL the test on monday, ALL the tren on wednesday and ALL the mast on friday. what the fuck... "confuse the body" lol  more like hormonal rollercoaster and tons of side effects
he will put on the 30lbs and more nonetheless, im sure about that

Ofc i learn from u :-)

This is my best cycle till now , your 3 pms was more help to me than 5 year reading forums

[Jizmo]

188lbs, up 12 lbs now. i guess rich piana got me by 3 lbs  
checked some numbers today...
fasting blood sugar is fine (76) (very important number to me, especially on slin and MK677)
blood pressure a bit on the high side (144/75). systolic number is always a bit too high for me unless im cruising
resting heart rate in the 80s even though ive done a lot of cardio on my cut and still do on off days.
but as far as i rememember ive never seen a resting heart rate below the mid 70s, even when i was natty.

bloat is kicking in, always getting more watery throughout the day but wake up nice and tight every morning.
got extremely vivid dreams every night from the MK677, paired with the violent nightmarish dreams from the tren (tren users know). pretty weird combination. but waking up fully rested every morning.
feeling good, diet goes as planned.
im off to morning cardio now

[ergo]

Keep reporting everything. I'm running 100mg AP tren a, 250mg sus, 2 AD50, 80mg Ananvar,  100mcg T4, 12u's HGH ED adding slin tomorrow. 1 week in on these doses. Everything is Pharm grade except tren. 236 right now as i"m coming off a very tight eating pattern and lost 18 pounds. Got down to a lean 230 and now starting over. This will be the biggest cycle ever done for me. Just came from a comprehensive work up with my Private Dr. Was on just TRT doses of Test e. Total test was below 700. Had to donate therapeutic blood 3 times, once per week to get my hematocrit below 50. Kidneys are perfect liver values slightly skewed nothing need tested over. Heart MRI fine no calcium in the arteries. Blood Pressure fine. Cholesterol values whacked 212 total, but again no blockage of arteries, Statins not required. Prolactin was 78 high went back to normal values after tren stoppage. Taking arimedex eod. Thyroid was in range on all values. Blood sugar in range not even close to type 2. If I can mentally take it I'll run this program. Up 6 pounds in 2 days mostly from jamming on the carbs and fat. Training is low volume high intensity. 5 day split. Don't be afraid to pour the calorie on 20-25 cals per pound. Eat at night when you piss. Pine apple juice and egg whites mixed in the fridge etc... Will hit 20 iu's slin pre work out tomorrow for 1st time. Karbolyn 100 gram mix with some isopure  WPi...


Following along hard on this with you write everything...

[Jizmo]

i hope youre not using 20iu rapid slin pre workout the first time you touch slin 
thats insane, especially with only 100g carbs
start off with 10iu max

[ergo]

Novolin-r and i have done slin many, many times. I know what to expect at the 3 hour post inject point... sometimes 6 times day. Even at night after waking and eating carbs and then back to bed... Got to know what your doing and that only comes from going hypo many times... 20 iu is the biggest amount if throughout the day 4-6 iu pre meals low fat ...

[Jenetics]

Aside from GH and Test, Modafinil is the greatest drug there is.  I have a script for it from my doc for sleep apnea, and it is amazing.  Total clarity, focus, and alertness for 15 hours.  No side effects other than making your piss smell funny.  Workouts are unreal with it, does not hinder appetite like adderall.  All the docs I work with use it as well.  Can't speak for the stuff coming from overseas, but USA Modafinil is amazing stuff. 

Interesting. Even just 100mg Modafinil totally kills my appetite. It works better for me for appetite suppression than phentermine or sibutramine. I like to take 100mg daily when cutting.

[Jizmo]

Novolin-r and i have done slin many, many times. I know what to expect at the 3 hour post inject point... sometimes 6 times day. Even at night after waking and eating carbs and then back to bed... Got to know what your doing and that only comes from going hypo many times... 20 iu is the biggest amount if throughout the day 4-6 iu pre meals low fat ...

yeah on R people rarely ever go hypo, even with minimal carb consumption. imo pre workout its suboptimal though. you want the slin to cover your workout and then be out again. chronically elevated insulin levels are very detrimental to insulin sensitivity and R last much much longer than rapid slin.
the actual EFFECTS of humalog last past the 2 hour active time though (carbohydrate metabolism, glucose uptake etc).
thats why IN MY OPINION rapid is the only slin you should ever use - and only pre workout.

[triggerhappy]

Where is whitewidow he would be like 800lbs on this blast

[heenok]

Where is whitewidow he would be like 800lbs on this blast

lmaoooooo  leave the poor guy alone

[Jizmo]

day 17, 189lbs, 13lbs up
initial water weight gain has slowed down now unless the scale jumps up this or next night.
7lbs left to gain during the next 2 weeks to hit my goal of 196lbs on february 1st. i wont force it and let conditioning suffer just to hit the 20lbs though.
as long as theres a tendency towards weight gain im all good. conditioning looks good. strength goes up. if i stall for a couple days i will add 100-200 kcals daily (intra workout most likely), thats always enough to keep me gaining.
sleep issues have completely settled down. the neverending thirst of the fist couple days (did i mention that?) has also subsided, so im not getting up as often at night to piss. sleeping extremely deep (MK677). wake up very rested, no more lethargy during the day either.

will post the first comparison pics of day 1 and from somewhen during week 3-4 (whenever i estimate i hit peak condition) soon.
afterwards ill update further if you guys are interested. i will still get bigger but probably not leaner/better conditioned anymore from week 4 on. but im dead set on this.
its time to get big

[doggler]

day 17, 189lbs, 13lbs up
initial water weight gain has slowed down now unless the scale jumps up this or next night.
7lbs left to gain during the next 2 weeks to hit my goal of 196lbs on february 1st. i wont force it and let conditioning suffer just to hit the 20lbs though.
as long as theres a tendency towards weight gain im all good. conditioning looks good. strength goes up. if i stall for a couple days i will add 100-200 kcals daily (intra workout most likely), thats always enough to keep me gaining.
sleep issues have completely settled down. the neverending thirst of the fist couple days (did i mention that?) has also subsided, so im not getting up as often at night to piss. sleeping extremely deep (MK677). wake up very rested, no more lethargy during the day either.

will post the first comparison pics of day 1 and from somewhen during week 3-4 (whenever i estimate i hit peak condition) soon.
afterwards ill update further if you guys are interested. i will still get bigger but probably not leaner/better conditioned anymore from week 4 on. but im dead set on this.
its time to get big

Of course we are interested !

Dont forget comparison photos.

[Chem]

Congrats you've been posted on /fraud/.

[Jizmo]

Congrats you've been posted on /fraud/.

lol
hope i stay the fuck out of there, some guys on there you dont wanna mess with (even though there are some (few) quality posters)

back in the day i spent a lot of time reading on fit and misc but never really actively posted

[herraisland]

Jizmo about the aas use.. did u just start of with 1gr of everything or are did u start lower and gradually up the doses by time ?

[Jizmo]

Jizmo about the aas use.. did u just start of with 1gr of everything or are did u start lower and gradually up the doses by time ?

straight in at 1g each
i dont really feel the need to stagger or increase, because my bulks usually only last 8-12 weeks... when i stall i simply add an oral for a short time

my next cut ill use much lower dosages though, so next bulk ill probably start at 700 each, then increase after 4-6 weeks, then add an oral or so

[Jizmo]

day 24, 192lbs. 16lbs up.  scale didnt budge the whole time UNTIL TODAY. suddenly got a leap on scale weight.
thought about increasing calories since the scale stopped moving but instead i kept my cardio days lower and added the calories into my intra workout nutrition.
seems to work.

still got a week to hit the 20lbs, but ill probably miss that goal by 1-2lbs.

will post pics later today or tomorrow depending on busy schedule.

i feel fucking great. abs havent gotten blurry yet, extremely pleased with my look actually.
eating gets kind of tiring right now but appetite and hunger are still kicking high.

havent skipped a single cardio session and i think that really helps with the higher calories and nutrient assimilation.