Author Topic: Does anyone else workout , enjoy bodybuilding and avoid all drugs these days?  (Read 13044 times)

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Howard.

Drugs are a part of this game.

I suppose you could play it straight, but the rewards aren't nearly as fullfilling.
If you know you made the majority of your gains because of a pill you took, how rewarding is that?  I took a cycle in 94' for 2 months, put on 40lbs...mainly bloat and felt ok, but knew it was the drugs that gave me those gains.  My diet and workout regiment was the same.  Where is the great stride I took, other than sticking my ass with a needle? 
The past few years I've been able to gain 60lbs of muscle naturally.  Even if it were 20lbs, the reward to me is much greater knowing it was all me who gained that muscle and not a pill.
Lastly, the majority of drug users are unhappy and lead screwed up lives.  Rarely do hear someone clean saying, "Hmm...maybe I should consider giving drugs a try because this clean living is really wearing on me?"  Drugs create the illusion of happiness, which is why most do them.  I feel bad for people who do drugs on a regular basis, especially the harder ones.  I know of people who died because of an OD, etc.  In the end, the families are stuck with a life of grief for that persons selfish actions.  It's a shame.
I'm not talking about weed so much, mainly harder drugs.  Even so, to smoke on a regular basis just to function or feel normal, seems like a waste as well.  If you can't be happy with just yourself, that's also sad.  Getting stone was fun in high school, grow up.  haha
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If you know you made the majority of your gains because of a pill you took, how rewarding is that?  I took a cycle in 94' for 2 months, put on 40lbs...mainly bloat and felt ok, but knew it was the drugs that gave me those gains.  My diet and workout regiment was the same.  Where is the great stride I took, other than sticking my ass with a needle? 
The past few years I've been able to gain 60lbs of muscle naturally.  Even if it were 20lbs, the reward to me is much greater knowing it was all me who gained that muscle and not a pill.
Lastly, the majority of drug users are unhappy and lead screwed up lives.  Rarely do hear someone clean saying, "Hmm...maybe I should consider giving drugs a try because this clean living is really wearing on me?"  Drugs create the illusion of happiness, which is why most do them.  I feel bad for people who do drugs on a regular basis, especially the harder ones.  I know of people who died because of an OD, etc.  In the end, the families are stuck with a life of grief for that persons selfish actions.  It's a shame.
I'm not talking about weed so much, mainly harder drugs.  Even so, to smoke on a regular basis just to function or feel normal, seems like a waste as well.  If you can't be happy with just yourself, that's also sad.  Getting stone was fun in high school, grow up.  haha


Great post. I agree that moderate drug use at various times can be ok . For example, drinking a few brews to feel relaxed and have fun, hitting a doobie on occasion to chill out, or useing a sensible amounts of roids to peak for a show, seem to give on a lot of bang for the buck.
I think that if you need to use drugs to escape from reality, maybe , just maybe you need to change our life and geta new overall reality.
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I'll stay natural. It seems hormone replacement therapy is getting huge with bodybuilders.  Getting straight test with a legal prescription and having your insurance pay seems like a great deal to some.  The waiting room must look funny with all the muscle heads claiming hypo test production. 

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If you know you made the majority of your gains because of a pill you took, how rewarding is that?  I took a cycle in 94' for 2 months, put on 40lbs...mainly bloat and felt ok, but knew it was the drugs that gave me those gains.  My diet and workout regiment was the same.  Where is the great stride I took, other than sticking my ass with a needle? 
The past few years I've been able to gain 60lbs of muscle naturally.  Even if it were 20lbs, the reward to me is much greater knowing it was all me who gained that muscle and not a pill.
Lastly, the majority of drug users are unhappy and lead screwed up lives.  Rarely do hear someone clean saying, "Hmm...maybe I should consider giving drugs a try because this clean living is really wearing on me?"  Drugs create the illusion of happiness, which is why most do them.  I feel bad for people who do drugs on a regular basis, especially the harder ones.  I know of people who died because of an OD, etc.  In the end, the families are stuck with a life of grief for that persons selfish actions.  It's a shame.
I'm not talking about weed so much, mainly harder drugs.  Even so, to smoke on a regular basis just to function or feel normal, seems like a waste as well.  If you can't be happy with just yourself, that's also sad.  Getting stone was fun in high school, grow up.  haha


I'm pretty sure Croatch has done more than 1 cycle..As his memory seemed suspect in that thread where it was discovered that he used juice.
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I am just too cheap to spend $$$ on any roids or risk the legal hassles.

It's not our fault you're a broke-ass public school teacher.

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However, I don't drink

You are grazy. But hey.. you at least abuse standardized donkey ball extract, right?!  ;D

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yes  to be honest my extent of supplments was one bottle of amino acids in highschool creatine for a few days and protien shakes which i havent used in years. yea people who cant have a good time without drinking or being high or boring cause most feel that is all that a good time consists of going to the club getting hammerd. i live on the nj shore and the people by 30 look like shit cause of all the drugs drinking late nights and tanning. of course i did my fair share of drinking growing up and while i was in the army but i havent had a sip in 4 years. me and my best friends all workout and we always keep busy with diffrent things depending on times of the year or holidays and enjoying eating out my only cheat meal of the week on sats. even natrual guys insist u need to use this or that blah blah people are so brain washed and condition they need certain things to grow or get in shape.  but anyway i have lots of friends who do drink or get high or juice and thats cool im not here to judge them. just its not for me you can look great either way.  one more week till i start my prep for natrual show in ny ny..  peace tony

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I'm pretty sure Croatch has done more than 1 cycle..As his memory seemed suspect in that thread where it was discovered that he used juice.
No, one cycle in 94', which yielded no gains I kept.  Plus, stopped lifting all together for a few years on top of that.  In short, all my gains today are from me.
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i train in a very small gym in north london,(approx 2/300 members) and just about everyone use's a shit load of recreational drugs. apart from the boring mofo's, and they don't last long

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Yes Howie, you are the only person who works out, enjoys bodybuilding, and avoids all drugs these days.
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Freakazoid, what are your stats these days?

The pic of you with that stone hippo had us all terrified.

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I took a cycle in 94' for 2 months, put on 40lbs...mainly bloat and felt ok, but knew it was the drugs that gave me those gains.  My diet and workout regiment was the same.  Where is the great stride I took, other than sticking my ass with a needle? 


FIVE pounds a week, for EIGHT weeks... those are amazing gains, even for using steroids.  You may not admit it, but you allowed your body to break a long-standing sticking point.  You also were able to RE-ATTAIN this previously held level through natural means afterwards. 

However, you really shouldn't crap all over gear users in every post here.  You couldn't possibly be 100% of what you are today, without using back in the day.  It's a fact.

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It's obvious from the pictures Croatch posted that he had some serious muscle memory.
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40 lbs in two months?

WTF?

And now Croatch is all over these juicers?

Let me try som ebonics here: Why is he trippin' about the juizerz?


Chill out brother

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I love bodybuilding and did use small amounts of the juice from 83'-86' and have no moral agenda pro or con about drugs of any kind. I for one, love bodybuilding, love to train , may even compete again, etc
However, I don't drink, smoke or do drugs of any kind. Shoot, I don't even cheat on my wife, don't even give it a serious thought.I do still go out and hoop it up with my wife dancin' and having fun at various clubs in the ATL. It seems that most folks do some kind of booze or drugs for whatever reasons, and those in/around bodybuilding seem to really get into various drugs for BOTH bodybuilding and
"fun". It is my observation that people either live really dry, dull, stick in the mud lives or party ( drink do drugs like wild men/woman. Most that I know that are also veteren teachers tend to be really dull people.
Maybe I am too  ;D Seriously, I see so few folks with stable careers that like to have fun and act crazy without drinking or doing drugs. I know I am odd, but what the hell.
Any others like me? Any others that drug it up and feel cool about it? just curious?
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  There is no point in using suce, if you're not going to make money from it. I did sauce several times; I regret I ever did. If you're a pro athlete or a movie star, who's livelihood depends on your physique, then it makes sense. But for regular guys, what do we have to gain? Impressing others at the beach? No, I won't dip myself in sauce, ever again.

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But for regular guys, what do we have to gain? Impressing others at the beach? No, I won't dip myself in sauce, ever again.

Aside from more ass, respect from your peers, and greater income, all things equal?

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Doesnt anyone else work out and drink wine or good beer with food?  I am a firm beleiver in the health benefits of red wine and hoppy beer.

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Doesnt anyone else work out and drink wine or good beer with food?  I am a firm beleiver in the health benefits of red wine and hoppy beer.

Vodka and Red Bull has its benefits too.

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Aside from more ass, respect from your peers, and greater income, all things equal?

  Most women go for the type of physique that can be built without sauce:it is the rare chick who likes mass monsters. Greater income? Maybe. As I said, if you have a real shot at being a pro athlete, then by all means dip yourself in sauce. For the rest of us, using the money we would spend on sauce to purchase mutual funds will do far more to increase our income than taking sauce. Respect from your peers? If we're talking about gym rats, then yes. It is also true in high school. But in society, respect is given to those who have money, education, status, etc, not to those who have large muscles.

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 Most women go for the type of physique that can be built without sauce:it is the rare chick who likes mass monsters. Greater income? Maybe. As I said, if you have a real shot at being a pro athlete, then by all means dip yourself in sauce. For the rest of us, using the money we would spend on sauce to purchase mutual funds will do far more to increase our income than taking sauce. Respect from your peers? If we're talking about gym rats, then yes. It is also true in high school. But in society, respect is given to those who have money, education, status, etc, not to those who have large muscles.

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translation=none of the big dudes in the gym will sell me any juice because i'm 137 lbs.
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I've read a lot about stock brokers, lawyers and other professional types that use gear just to be more imposing in the workplace and have more energy.  Supposedly, their pay is greater due to gear/aggressiveness.

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translation=none of the big dudes in the gym will sell me any juice because i'm 137 lbs.

  What did you expect? After all that cardio I did porking your momma in the pooper, that's all that was left of me ;D. Considering how much protein I dumped in there, it's amazing there's anything of me left at all. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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  By the way, Ms.six-thousand-posts-in-seven-months, you're in no position to accuse anyone of being small. Sorry, but the basement gym at your parent's house, next to your computer and bed, is not adequate for developing a truly massive physique. ;D There's no way you're bigger than me. ;)

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a lot of "non juichead" bodies that chicks dig are still made with juice.
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a lot of "non juichead" bodies that chicks dig are still made with juice.

  Yes, but my point remains:they are attainable without sauce.

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