The bible talking about wiggs

[Al Doggity]

Your first point, are you saying that the north benefitted indirectly from slavery and so stating those who did not own slaves but beneffited in a pernicious way?  Perhaps, that's pretty subjective, I would argue that far less then 50% of the country benefitted from slavery, I mean you did have a civil war.


I started responding if I recall, correct me if I am wrong regarding the stolen "ideas", wiggs also grouped me into a category I simply don't agree with, claiming my people were the head of the snake. I mean, if I am going at him more then others, it's not without merit, his black supremacy is disgusting as is white supremacy.

He is also not trolling, others are. He is a legit racist, outspoken as well, with other equally outrageous ideas.

It's not subjective. That segment of the economy was so large that its effects could never be entirely local. Slave labor was a massive part of southern industry and of course the south engaged in commerce with the north. Even outside of that, 50% of the country geographically is still a massive percentage. Even outside of that, the more relevant figure would still be the nearly 100% of African slaves that were affected. Even outside of that, I'm not sure how the percentage relates to my original post, especially since I only mentioned slavery to illustrate one specific point and it wasn't the main point of my post.


Your first post in this thread is this:

Ya you guys are the best, how about you stop worrying about petty things like skin color?

An admittedly not-too-thorough perusal  reveals that most of your posts in this thread focus exclusively on race. Just a few pages ago, several posters (including myself) questioned if Wiggs was trolling, so whether or not he is genuinely racist where others are not is not something that is taken for granted by all. The notable thing is not that you go after him "more than others". Have you ever gone after ANYONE else at all? Like I said, you're entitled to respond to whatever you want to respond to, but it's completely transparent why there is exactly one member whose posts on race bother you. So trying to wrap it up with a nice humanist, unirace bow seems especially disingenuous.

[Al Doggity]

kill yourself.

Looks like you're owning my mind. 

[NelsonMuntz]

[HTexan]

Slaves in Texas were free. But didn't learn about until years later. Juneteenth.

[NordicNerd]

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An admittedly not-too-thorough perusal  reveals that most of your posts in this thread focus exclusively on race. Just a few pages ago, several posters (including myself) questioned if Wiggs was trolling, so whether or not he is genuinely racist where others are not is not something that is taken for granted by all. The notable thing is not that you go after him "more than others". Have you ever gone after ANYONE else at all? ...

The amount of white racists on this board is depressingly large and the major problem is that they are allowed to go on and even to be part of the "in" crowd.

Wiggs I believe to be racist also, but this whole "black hebrew" thing is too elaborate to just be trolling imo. It's some sort of crazy rhetorical strategy to claim black superiority. To me the strategy is meaningless anyway, since I do not believe in the jewish or christian "god" or a chosen people. To me, that is all nonsense and myths.

NN

[drkaje]

The amount of white racists on this board is depressingly large and the major problem is that they are allowed to go on and even to be part of the "in" crowd.

Wiggs I believe to be racist also, but this whole "black hebrew" thing is too elaborate to just be trolling imo. It's some sort of crazy rhetorical strategy to claim black superiority. To me the strategy is meaningless anyway, since I do not believe in the jewish or christian "god" or a chosen people. To me, that is all nonsense and myths.

NN

It's hilarious how people only seem to notice how much racism is tolerated here after Wiggs posts dumb shit. Wiggs' posts are fairly mild in comparison.

[Al Doggity]

Wiggs I believe to be racist also, but this whole "black hebrew" thing is too elaborate to just be trolling imo. It's some sort of crazy rhetorical strategy to claim black superiority. To me the strategy is meaningless anyway, since I do not believe in the jewish or christian "god" or a chosen people. To me, that is all nonsense and myths.

NN

Let me be clear... I'm not trying to make the argument that Wiggs's postings on race are trolling or that the only defense of his posts is if they are meant to be trolling. I'm just saying that I don't see anything objectively worse of different about his posts that would explain singling him out as uniquely hateful. 

[NelsonMuntz]

The amount of white racists on this board is depressingly large and the major problem is that they are allowed to go on and even to be part of the "in" crowd.

Wiggs I believe to be racist also, but this whole "black hebrew" thing is too elaborate to just be trolling imo. It's some sort of crazy rhetorical strategy to claim black superiority. To me the strategy is meaningless anyway, since I do not believe in the jewish or christian "god" or a chosen people. To me, that is all nonsense and myths.

NN

Meltdown

You are clueless and need professional help if you actually think people are being serious about 99% of the posts on this board

[Necrosis]

It's not subjective. That segment of the economy was so large that its effects could never be entirely local. Slave labor was a massive part of southern industry and of course the south engaged in commerce with the north. Even outside of that, 50% of the country geographically is still a massive percentage. Even outside of that, the more relevant figure would still be the nearly 100% of African slaves that were affected. Even outside of that, I'm not sure how the percentage relates to my original post, especially since I only mentioned slavery to illustrate one specific point and it wasn't the main point of my post.


Your first post in this thread is this:
An admittedly not-too-thorough perusal  reveals that most of your posts in this thread focus exclusively on race. Just a few pages ago, several posters (including myself) questioned if Wiggs was trolling, so whether or not he is genuinely racist where others are not is not something that is taken for granted by all. The notable thing is not that you go after him "more than others". Have you ever gone after ANYONE else at all? Like I said, you're entitled to respond to whatever you want to respond to, but it's completely transparent why there is exactly one member whose posts on race bother you. So trying to wrap it up with a nice humanist, unirace bow seems especially disingenuous.

I was simply responding to your argument, the point you made in reference to my slavery post. 100% of non-slave africans were not impacted, it's quite clearly subjective when we are extraploatint "effect" via commerce etc, particularly when what you are saying is conjecture.

Regardless, those who did not participate in slavery are not indebted or are in the concept of them  "benefiting", the north traded with Canada who raped the indigenous populations, far worse then slavery, it was active genocide, whole tribes gone forever. Does the north owe what we pay to our aboriginals to this day, or at least a part of it? this is my point, it's subjective and silly, our concepts of countries is small, our perspective small.

Have I ever posted in a hateful manner towards a getbig member? that can't be a serious question?

If I am being disingenuous then it would reason that I am simply attacking one particular black member because I am racist.

[NordicNerd]

Meltdown

You are clueless and need professional help if you actually think people are being serious about 99% of the posts on this board

Does not matter. The racists here write the most vile shit about other ethnical groups and then claim it was all a joke. But it is still evil racism. Actually, I believe a common thread in racist thinking is lack of empathy. In line with this we have the phenomenon of telling racist jokes and then mock the people who take offence for being overly "sensitive" or saying that they "lack a sense of humor".

NN

[johnnynoname]

what a bunch of slack jawed faggots on this forum

[Al Doggity]

I was simply responding to your argument, the point you made in reference to my slavery post. 100% of non-slave africans were not impacted, it's quite clearly subjective when we are extraploatint "effect" via commerce etc, particularly when what you are saying is conjecture.

Regardless, those who did not participate in slavery are not indebted or are in the concept of them  "benefiting", the north traded with Canada who raped the indigenous populations, far worse then slavery, it was active genocide, whole tribes gone forever. Does the north owe what we pay to our aboriginals to this day, or at least a part of it? this is my point, it's subjective and silly, our concepts of countries is small, our perspective small.

The first mention of slavery in this thread was when I said "There have always been high achieving blacks. Even during the height of slavery." I haven't said anything about modern America being indebted to anyone. Like I said, we clearly are not starting with the same unspoken assumption, so I'm just going to refrain from addressing this particular line of discussion any further and refer to what I said in my last post.

Have I ever posted in a hateful manner towards a getbig member? that can't be a serious question?

If I am being disingenuous then it would reason that I am simply attacking one particular black member because I am racist.

I didn't say hateful manner. I asked if you've ever challenged any other member about race on an overwhelmingly racist message board. If you haven't, it doesn't NECESSARILY stand to reason that you are racist, but it does stand to reason that your tipping point for what you find acceptable racism is when it involves the race to which you belong. That's predictable and understandable, but it is also somewhat hypocritical when you try to frame that as a disgust with the concept of racism in general.