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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2016, 12:28:49 PM »
1000 years? Yeh right, we ll have all been blown to Allah by then.

500 years max.
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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2016, 12:32:58 PM »
One of the things he says is that humans shouldn't be trying to contact life on other planets.

Like I've always said, he believes we shouldn't just assume all intelligent life out there will always be friendly.

It's crazy some people assume they would be friendly.

Just look at us humans. We can't get along with each other. Spaniards beached in America, were greeted by curious locals and immediately started to kill them.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2016, 12:38:49 PM »
It's crazy some people assume they would be friendly.

Just look at us humans. We can't get along with each other. Spaniards beached in America, were greeted by curious locals and immediately started to kill them.


Fuck that.  Aliens would come here and see the new hot breed of chicks coming out of High School and give us all high 5s

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2016, 01:34:50 PM »
1000 years? That's quite optimistic.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2016, 01:42:59 PM »
1000 years? That's quite optimistic.

Here's the thing.

The way things are going / progressing right now, if it keeps up in the same speed, it won't be more than 100 years before shit hits the fan.


But maybe it needs to be some Huge happening (that will happen in abt 100 years) that will keep humanity surviving (cleansing of a certain species), or we all just plain die out due to war, famine and natural disasters.
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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2016, 04:56:35 AM »
Fuck that.  Aliens would come here and see the new hot breed of chicks coming out of High School and give us all high 5s
hot highschool girls are humanities only chance
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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2016, 08:29:53 AM »
Humans had their chance. Humanity is so overrated. Why bother saving it?

Like George Carlin said "Just sit back and enjoy watching the world burn"

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #57 on: November 19, 2016, 09:41:03 AM »
Humans had their chance. Humanity is so overrated. Why bother saving it?

Like George Carlin said "Just sit back and enjoy watching the world burn"

Whore shit.  You're attributing an invented quote to a dead man.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #58 on: November 19, 2016, 09:30:55 PM »
Popular mechanics 110 predictions in 110 years. Says well on a colony on Mars in 60 years...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a3120/110-predictions-for-the-next-110-years/

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #59 on: November 19, 2016, 09:40:07 PM »
Yes.  Jesus is a fictional character.  If you believe otherwise, see Easter bunny and Santa Claus.  The only difference is...your parents never told you God didn't exist.

LOL!!!


Jesus is documented in history time and time again. I know you have a constant yearning to be edgy and "special", but you do spend a good majority of the time bitching.


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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2016, 02:37:16 AM »
"Expiry?"

Who talks like that???

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2016, 03:00:21 AM »
Popular mechanics 110 predictions in 110 years. Says well on a colony on Mars in 60 years...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a3120/110-predictions-for-the-next-110-years/

Like in the book Red Mars, humans will probably live in cities under domes or underground. Even if they could terraform the planet and have flowing water and vegetation and enough oxygen, it would still be too cold to go out without a spacesuit.
The lower gravity would also physically weaken future generations and perhaps lead to other evolutionary changes.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2016, 03:03:01 AM »


I fucking knew he sang in that song, no one would believe it!

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2016, 06:31:10 AM »
LOL!!!


Jesus is documented in history time and time again. I know you have a constant yearning to be edgy and "special", but you do spend a good majority of the time bitching.



The legend of Jesus is well documented.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2016, 11:14:56 AM »
Popular mechanics 110 predictions in 110 years. Says well on a colony on Mars in 60 years...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a3120/110-predictions-for-the-next-110-years/

Classic flying car Jetsons nonsense.

3-d printers in particular are all the rage.  It's a dead end technology.  Materials have properties.  You can't just deposit grain after grain to make anything you want.  It doesn't work that way.

And AI.  ::)  It's not going to happen.  No matter how advanced you make a computer, it just does what it's programmed to do.  It has no mind or will.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2016, 12:13:38 PM »
People are so fucking ignorant they have no idea what is a danger to their existence.

They're constantly looking to the skies looking for the huge asteroid that is going to crash into planet earth, or a plague that is going to run out of control, or UFOs landing on our planet and making mincemeat out of us... Without paying attention to the IMMENSE nuclear weapons inventories around the world, enough to destroy the world 10 times over.

Way to go humanity!

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2016, 12:29:55 PM »
i love when guys think they know more than jesus.


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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2016, 10:47:52 AM »
Classic flying car Jetsons nonsense.

3-d printers in particular are all the rage.  It's a dead end technology.  Materials have properties.  You can't just deposit grain after grain to make anything you want.  It doesn't work that way.

And AI.  ::)  It's not going to happen.  No matter how advanced you make a computer, it just does what it's programmed to do.  It has no mind or will.

Lol.  Answer:


The flying cars thing was when we had next to no technology at all. Now they can put computers on a grain of rice. Technology isn't going to slow down unless there's a nuke reset. It's only going to speed up. Year after year it will speed up faster and faster. The technology is all there. Flying cars is when you needed a computer the size of a large room to play pong...EVerything has changed. In fact, technology has sped up the way we understand time itself.

http://bigthink.com/think-tank/big-idea-technology-grows-exponentially

http://www.sciencealert.com/research-suggests-that-technology-is-speeding-up-our-perception-of-time

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #68 on: November 22, 2016, 04:42:30 AM »
If TV phones existed, I could easily live without the internet.

I believe life was better before.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #69 on: November 22, 2016, 05:17:36 AM »
And AI.  ::)  It's not going to happen.

Really?


No matter how advanced you make a computer, it just does what it's programmed to do.

Let's start simply: what if the program uses a source of randomness (say, a beta detector placed next to a bowl of table salt)? It's decisions are effectively random.

Now, let's get more complex: what if the program uses neural nets and deep learning techniques, so that it increases its knowledge as time goes on without any intervention from the programmer? Such systems, for example, can be started up completely "blank" and learn to perform a task through trial and error.


It has no mind or will.

Can you define "mind" and "will" for us, sufficiently accurately as to allows us to understand why it's impossible for a computer to possess those things?

Can you explain how your brain differs from a computer?

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #70 on: November 22, 2016, 05:22:32 AM »
hot highschool girls are humanities only chance

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #71 on: November 22, 2016, 06:54:54 AM »
People are so fucking ignorant they have no idea what is a danger to their existence.

They're constantly looking to the skies looking for the huge asteroid that is going to crash into planet earth, or a plague that is going to run out of control, or UFOs landing on our planet and making mincemeat out of us... Without paying attention to the IMMENSE nuclear weapons inventories around the world, enough to destroy the world 10 times over.

Way to go humanity!

The Sun will eventually scorch the earth, then cool down and die.

Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.  Or, find Jesus.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #72 on: November 22, 2016, 08:23:56 AM »
Really?

Sure.

Let's start simply: what if the program uses a source of randomness (say, a beta detector placed next to a bowl of table salt)? It's decisions are effectively random.


It's direction is randomly dictated.  They're not decisions.  There was no reflection or judgement on the part of the computer.  It just did what it was told to do, in this case by a particle detector.

Now, let's get more complex: what if the program uses neural nets and deep learning techniques, so that it increases its knowledge as time goes on without any intervention from the programmer? Such systems, for example, can be started up completely "blank" and learn to perform a task through trial and error.

It wouldn't set about 'learning' (I can't anthropomorphize like that w/o the quoties) any task unless directed to do so.  It's just more computation.  The machine's next iteration is dictated by probable outcomes based on past outcomes, as it's directed to do by its program.

Getting improved results by repeated trial and error is the opposite of reasoning to a solution.  The machine will never reason.  There's no conceptualization happening.  There's no understanding of anything taking place. 

Can you define "mind" and "will" for us, sufficiently accurately as to allows us to understand why it's impossible for a computer to possess those things?

Can you explain how your brain differs from a computer?

Not really.  People have argued over these terms for a long long time now.  Doubt I'll be the guy to provide the definitive answer.

My physical brain?  No.  My mind?  Yes.  It is manifest, as evidenced by conscious thought, which may be predicated on the existence of a brain but it's not strictly equivalent.  If you shoot the orchestra then you have stopped the symphony, but have you eradicated the symphony?  I'm not quite hocus pocus lava lamp enough to say we all share in a universal consciousness but, as intellects we possess common traits unique to living beings.  Again, the ability to reason and to reason and act through one's own agency.

So in b4 Frankenstein's creation.  I don't know if you can build a man on a workbench.  I just have a real hard time going all in on materialism.  Like the dude said: Hey, nothing is in this famous 'mind' of yours which is not first in the senses.  And the other dude was all: Except the mind itself.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #73 on: November 22, 2016, 04:36:33 PM »
Classic flying car Jetsons nonsense.

3-d printers in particular are all the rage.  It's a dead end technology.  Materials have properties.  You can't just deposit grain after grain to make anything you want.  It doesn't work that way.

And AI.  ::)  It's not going to happen.  No matter how advanced you make a computer, it just does what it's programmed to do.  It has no mind or will.

Lol.  Answer:


That's not true. There will come a point where you will not be able to tell the difference between a human and a computer. You can say the sophistication or tech isn't there yet. Human brains are nothing more than sophisticated biological computers.

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Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
« Reply #74 on: November 22, 2016, 04:49:02 PM »
That's not true. There will come a point where you will not be able to tell the difference between a human and a computer. You can say the sophistication or tech isn't there yet. Human brains are nothing more than sophisticated biological computers.


Nope.  The computational power of machines already exceeds that of the human brain and the machines still aren't starting any conversations.  There's a qualitative difference between something living and something inert which won't be overcome by moar bytes.