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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8925 on: November 26, 2025, 12:05:21 PM »
Yes, what he missed, like you (obviously) is that it was dismissed WITHOUT PREJUDICE not because of the merits (the Grand Jury found no issues with the evidence) of the indictment but because of a procedural error. It will likely be overturned on appeal and if not the case can be refiled and new indictments will be handed down. Aside from that, this was a Bill Clinton activist appointed judge.

All the judge did was buy Comey and James time for the inevitable. Since Lurker can’t think outside of a propaganda clickbait headline, this jackass was doing some sort a victory lap

Thanks for the information. To refile with new indictments looks like and uphill battle. What do you think the basis for a successful appeal would be?

The Department of Justice can appeal these rulings and could get them reversed on appeal, or it could refile them after a new U.S. attorney is named in accordance with law.

If Currie’s rulings stand, the Justice Department can’t just file the cases again, with Halligan still in this role, unless the Trump administration follows the procedures set forth in the law for her proper appointment.

It may be too late for the case against Comey, however, because the statute of limitations on those charges has already run out. As Currie noted in her Comey ruling, while the statute of limitations is generally suspended when a valid indictment has been filed, an invalid indictment, like the one against Comey, would not have the same effect on the statute of limitations.

https://theconversation.com/without-prejudice-what-this-2-word-legalese-means-for-the-dismissed-charges-against-james-comey-and-letitia-james-270559

On another note: The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a $1 million sanction against Trump and his lawyer Alina Habba for their frivolous conspiracy-laden racketeering lawsuit targeting Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and former FBI Director James Comey.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8926 on: November 26, 2025, 12:21:49 PM »
Comey needs to be held accountable.
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8927 on: November 26, 2025, 12:43:54 PM »
The only reason you mentioned the appeal is because you had to go back and look it up to understand why you didn’t get it. But there you were doing your victory lap that always backfires.

If you actually understood what the ruling meant you might not have posted it….i take that back, you would have.

Wrong again retardo.  If the administration had anything other than shit for brains -like you- they would not have used a quack prosecutor in the first place.  You know all the "I hire the best people" crap and all that...   :D :D :D

When they appeal and it fails again what will your little excuse be?

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8928 on: November 26, 2025, 12:47:00 PM »
HHAAHAA.... so much winning.

Trumpy and another lawyer shows just what winning looks like.  For the other team that is. 

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https://www.axios.com/2025/11/26/trump-hillary-clinton-lawsuit-sanction

Court upholds Trump's nearly $1M penalty for frivolous Clinton suit

A conservative federal appeals court unanimously upheld nearly $1 million in sanctions against President Trump and his former attorney Alina Habba for filing what it called a "frivolous" lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and other political enemies.

The big picture: Wednesday's ruling is the latest roadblock in Trump's long-running effort to punish his foes. It's also the president's second loss with the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in recent days, after it refused to revive his defamation lawsuit against CNN.

    A district court judge tossed and eviscerated the case Trump brought against Hillary Clinton and others, writing in 2023 that it "should never have been filed" and was "in bad faith."

Driving the news: The three-judge panel found the district court did not abuse its discretion in slamming Trump and Habba with sanctions and agreed with the lower court's findings that the president's arguments were deficient.

    Chief Judge William Pryor Jr., a George W. Bush appointee, wrote the 36-page opinion joined by Trump-appointee Andrew Brasher and Biden-appointee Embry Kidd.
    "President Trump will continue to pursue this matter to its just and rightful conclusion," a spokesperson for Trump's legal team said in a statement provided to Axios.

Context: Habba represented Trump before he was re-elected and appointed her to serve as the acting U.S. attorney for New Jersey.

    But a federal judge ruled in August that she had been acting as U.S. attorney without legal authority, determining her interim tenure had expired. The DOJ has challenged that decision.

    U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks tossed the lawsuit in September of that year, calling it a "two-hundred-page political manifesto."
    He later sanctioned Trump, Habba and her law firm to pay $937,989 for filing the frivolous lawsuit.
    "Mr. Trump's deliberate use of a frivolous lawsuit for an improper purpose constitutes bad faith," the judge wrote at the time. "And the behavior is not unique, but part of a plan, or at least a playbook."
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8929 on: November 26, 2025, 05:27:41 PM »
So much winning :D

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A judge dismissed the Georgia election interference case against President Donald Trump and others on Wednesday after a request from the prosecutor, making the historic racketeering prosecution the latest in a string of legal cases against Trump that have dissolved since he was reelected to a second term.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8930 on: November 26, 2025, 06:33:46 PM »
Wrong again retardo.  If the administration had anything other than shit for brains -like you- they would not have used a quack prosecutor in the first place.  You know all the "I hire the best people" crap and all that...   :D :D :D

When they appeal and it fails again what will your little excuse be?

She put the indictment together and presented it to the grand jury. The grand jury accepted all of the evidence and issued the indictment. Fucking moron

You are without a shred of doubt the dumbest mother F’er on this site…..and a coward

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8931 on: November 26, 2025, 06:37:09 PM »
Thanks for the information. To refile with new indictments looks like and uphill battle. What do you think the basis for a successful appeal would be?

The Department of Justice can appeal these rulings and could get them reversed on appeal, or it could refile them after a new U.S. attorney is named in accordance with law.

If Currie’s rulings stand, the Justice Department can’t just file the cases again, with Halligan still in this role, unless the Trump administration follows the procedures set forth in the law for her proper appointment.

It may be too late for the case against Comey, however, because the statute of limitations on those charges has already run out. As Currie noted in her Comey ruling, while the statute of limitations is generally suspended when a valid indictment has been filed, an invalid indictment, like the one against Comey, would not have the same effect on the statute of limitations.

https://theconversation.com/without-prejudice-what-this-2-word-legalese-means-for-the-dismissed-charges-against-james-comey-and-letitia-james-270559

On another note: The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a $1 million sanction against Trump and his lawyer Alina Habba for their frivolous conspiracy-laden racketeering lawsuit targeting Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and former FBI Director James Comey.

It’s impossible to think on your own, isn’t it?

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8932 on: Today at 11:05:33 AM »
It’s impossible to think on your own, isn’t it?

Apparently, you cannot dispute any of what I posted.

What I think (on my own) is that I am neither a lawyer, Judge or law expert. 

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8933 on: Today at 11:07:05 AM »
Apparently, you cannot dispute any of what I posted.

What I think (on my own) is that I am neither a lawyer, Judge or law expert.

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Once again, it’s procedural not because the evidence isn’t there. It’s already gone through the GJ phase and indictments were handed down.

Chances of Overturn on Appeal

The odds of the DOJ successfully appealing the dismissal—potentially reaching the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals and even the Supreme Court—are estimated at moderate to high (50-70%), primarily because the ruling hinges on a statutory interpretation that conservatives argue was overly narrow.

Key substantiations:
•  Statutory Ambiguity as a Reversal Hook: Judge Currie acknowledged the relevant law is “ambiguous,” which conservative commentators like Jonathan Turley (Fox News legal analyst) say favors the government. Turley notes the DOJ can argue the court “too narrowly construed” 28 U.S.C. § 546’s 120-day interim limit, potentially allowing Halligan’s role. The 4th Circuit, with a conservative lean (7-4 Republican appointees as of 2025), has shown deference to executive authority in similar cases.   Breitbart echoes this, calling the ruling a “technicality” that “won’t stick” on appeal, citing precedents like the Supreme Court’s 2024 Trump v. United States immunity decision for broad executive leeway. 

•  DOJ’s Strong Position: Attorney General Pam Bondi has stated the appeal will argue the indictments were “ratified” by senior DOJ leadership (including herself), making dismissal the “wrong remedy.” Conservative strategist Will Chamberlain (Article 3 Project) adds that even if Halligan’s appointment fails, the cases were filed within the five-year statute of limitations (18 U.S.C. § 3282), preserving their viability.  Fox News reports the White House views this as a “delay, not denial,” with Trump calling it a mere “technicality.”  

•  Potential Supreme Court Path: Legal experts across sources (including conservative ones) predict a 60-70% chance of escalation to SCOTUS, where the 6-3 conservative majority could resolve the ambiguity in favor of executive power, drawing on opinions by Justices Thomas and Gorsuch (cited in Currie’s ruling ironically against the government).   National Review analogs this to Aileen Cannon’s 2024 dismissal of Trump’s classified documents case on special counsel appointment grounds, which conservatives argue was rightly procedural and reversible.
Risks to overturn: Defense claims of “vindictive prosecution” (citing Trump’s public demands for indictments) could gain traction if evidence of political motive is deemed substantive, but conservatives dismiss this as “lawfare deflection,” estimating only a 20-30% chance it derails the appeal. 
Chances of Successful Refiling if Appeal Fails
If the appeal upholds the dismissal, conservative sources peg the odds of refiling and advancing the cases at high (70-80%) for James but lower (40-50%) for Comey, due to statute of limitations nuances. Refiling is explicitly possible under the without-prejudice ruling, and DOJ could assign a new prosecutor (e.g., a Senate-confirmed U.S. Attorney) to re-present to a grand jury.

•  For Letitia James: Strong prospects, as her charges stem from a 2020 mortgage (well within the five-year limit), and a Federal Housing Finance Agency referral provides fresh evidentiary hooks. Turley warns James against a “victory lap,” noting refiling could happen “even if they lose on appeal,” potentially tying into her ongoing appeal of Trump’s fraud case (where she seeks to reinstate the $500M penalty).   Breitbart highlights the “irony” of James’s prior fraud pursuit against Trump, suggesting DOJ motivation remains high.  Hannity’s coverage emphasizes Bondi’s warning: “DOJ not done with them.” 

•  For James Comey: More challenging, as his charges relate to a 2020 congressional hearing, and the statute expired September 30, 2025. However, a six-month “savings clause” (18 U.S.C. § 3288) for defective indictments could extend refiling until March 2026. Conservatives like Chamberlain argue this applies, calling it a “delay, but not denial of justice.”   Fox and Breitbart sources express frustration over Comey’s past actions (e.g., Russia probe), boosting refiling odds if the clause holds. 

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #8934 on: Today at 11:47:20 AM »
It’s impossible to think on your own, isn’t it?

I think -- you apparently cannot dispute any of what I posted, or you would have.
 
What I think (on my own) is that I am neither a lawyer, Judge nor law expert. Therefore, I did not draw conclusions as you seem to have.

Yes, what he missed, like you (obviously) is that it was dismissed WITHOUT PREJUDICE not because of the merits (the Grand Jury found no issues with the evidence) of the indictment but because of a procedural error. It will likely be overturned on appeal and if not, the case can be refined, and new indictments will be handed down. Aside from that, this was a Bill Clinton activist appointed judge.
All the judge did was buy Comey and James time for the inevitable. Since Lurker can’t think outside of a propaganda clickbait headline, this jackass was doing some sort a victory lap

Here are my thoughts.
That U.S. District Judge Cameron Currie was appointed by Bill Clinton does not legally disqualify her rulings. Yes, she was appointed by Bill Clinton – in 1994, thirty years ago. She surely must have some knowledge of the law. In fact, I read that she has never had a ruling overturned in the past 30+ years.
You claim (as if it is an absolute fact) that this will be overturned on appeal and if it is filed again, new indictments will be handed down. You also suggest that a conviction is inevitable. Are you a psychic?

In effect, you are also doing premature victory laps.
 
If what you thought on your own does not come to pass, will you admit you were mistaken? I think (on my own) that you will either ignore or continue to dispute the outcome.