Trump = Winning

[Necrosis]

That's not credible evidence, he needs a double blind peer reviewed study. Or a cnn/nbc/facebook post/twitter meme to fact check against.

I just pointed out to you how silly the double blind thing is, do you have no shame!!!

I like that you guys are DMing about me, I do feel a little special

[Grape Ape]

It;s in direct contradiction with the data released by all reputable sources that actually sorted through the data and gave clear metrics.

Again, I am not against it but you have yet you outline why this disenfranchising all these people is a good thing in such a short period of time and according to actual sources not news investigations (like that retard at the somali daycares) there is no reason to expedite the process.

I've explained many times:

1. I don't think it disenfranchises - I've posted there's provisions for the states to accommodate
2. Caveat - even if it does, rip the band aid off, take the pain once and it's done.
3. It will help public perception
4. Is common sense.

But it would be helpful you provide links to the data you source.

[chaos]

Again, I am not against it but you have yet you outline why this disenfranchising all these people

This is your inner retard talking, nobody is being disenfranchised, let alone "all these people" lol

[LurkerNoMore]

Maybe you missed this:

https://nypost.com/2026/03/16/us-news/illegal-immigrants-from-africa-india-and-china-are-voting-in-us-elections-heres-how-theyre-doing-it/

NY Post is on the same level as National Enquirer.

[Grape Ape]

NY Post is on the same level as National Enquirer.

What parts of the article do you dispute?

[Necrosis]

This is your inner retard talking, nobody is being disenfranchised, let alone "all these people" lol

it would if rolled out, it wouldn't overtime. Thererfore its dumb.

[LurkerNoMore]

Big time winning going on for the mid week hump day report.

Trumpy loses latest appellate step in his Big Lie lawsuit against CNN.

Bondi doing all she can to avoid testifying in that little Epstein file case.

Pope Leo tells followers to reject El Orange-O's El Iran Propagand-O.

Gas prices still rising.  But again, he says this is good news. 

Trumpy whines that unpaid TSA agents should "go to work"   

Fatso gets disgrace doctor Ronny Jackson to claim he is the "healthiest" US president in recent history.

The crybaby threatened to create a new mess in the Middle East as payback for countries that didn’t support his first one.

Unable to even locate major US cities on a US map, Duhnold wants to add Venusucky as the 51st state.  Last month it was Canada wasn't it?  Then Greenland, or Cuba or what will it be next week?   Oh wait... it's Africa right and that weird ass mineral deal he is dreaming about.

The attempt to fund raise off dead soldiers from his war continues to backfire.  Which MAGAtard on this board sent him a check?

And it's only Wednesday.  Two more days left in the week.  Want to save the pivoting, whining, deflecting until the end of the week or just have to do it twice?

[LurkerNoMore]

What parts of the article do you dispute?

I don't read NY Post.   Just like I don't read the National Enquirer.  But how many are they claiming?  Hundreds?  All in one state?  Enough to sway the election?

Because I'm sure it can't top one little Republican area producing 4 in the 2020 election. That is all in one zip code alone.
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/01/30/4th-resident-of-the-villages-admits-to-voting-twice-in-the-2020-election/

Or the instance where the Republican party was actively forging voter registration forms for people without their knowledge and signing up people who were not eligible to vote
https://admin.cdn.sos.ca.gov/press-releases/prior/2006/06_166.pdf

Or this MAGA sweetheart that created more 100 imaginary votes for himself
https://azmirror.com/briefs/turning-point-leader-former-gop-rep-pleads-guilty-to-attempted-election-fraud/

Of course voter fraud by individuals is meaningless when you got Republicans in seven states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) meeting and signing false certificates declaring Donald Trump the winner of that state's electoral votes,  when he in fact lost, and then sending these documents to the National Archives and Congress in an effort to subvert the election results and rob millions and millions of people of their legitimate votes.

On it's own, illegal voting has never been over 1%
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-election-fraud-in-the-united-states-not-very/

[Dos Equis]

It;s in direct contradiction with the data released by all reputable sources that actually sorted through the data and gave clear metrics.

Again, I am not against it but you have yet you outline why this disenfranchising all these people is a good thing in such a short period of time and according to actual sources not news investigations (like that retard at the somali daycares) there is no reason to expedite the process.

This is your inner retard talking, nobody is being disenfranchised, let alone "all these people" lol

Who is being disenfranchised?  And how? 

[Necrosis]

Who is being disenfranchised?  And how?
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I have already explained it like 4 times in this thread.

it's mostly only short stature women of asian descent.

[chaos]

Who is being disenfranchised?  And how?

He keeps insisting that married broads won't be able to register to vote even though it's been explained to him that it's simply not true. He's actually gotten kind of retarded lately. He's gone the way of Agnostic, started out OK, reasonable but has got caught up in his TDS and just spiraled into a complete retard, pulling the classic Prime naivety card when faced with something he can't deal with.

[Dos Equis]

He keeps insisting that married broads won't be able to register to vote even though it's been explained to him that it's simply not true. He's actually gotten kind of retarded lately. He's gone the way of Agnostic, started out OK, reasonable but has got caught up in his TDS and just spiraled into a complete retard, pulling the classic Prime naivety card when faced with something he can't deal with.

Accurate.  And he just likes to be a troll.

[chaos]

Accurate.  And he just likes to be a troll.

Don't we all?

[Primemuscle]

OK, let's be serious for a minute.....in the US we have had 20 YEARS to get a REAL ID, sounds like 65% are lazy fucks. Although a simple google search shows more than 50% of people that require an ID have a REAL ID....so there's a discrepancy that I'm sure you'll ignore.
You keep going to the id, birth certificate and passport BS, you realize a person only needs one of those to register to vote right? There is no "your id has to match your birth certificate" clause, that's just made up BS from your side. It's obvious you aren't married or you would know how the name change thing works. LOL @ poor folks don't have their birth certificates. Definitely some shit leftists say.

Not everyone has or needs a passport so I won't go there.

Is that clear enough for you, Retardosis?

Providing acceptable ID to register to vote and to vote, is not quite as simple as you suggest. But it isn't impossibly complicated either.

Acquiring any official documentation needed for a REAL ID takes time, so anyone hoping to vote needs to plan ahead several weeks at least. Passports can take four to six weeks.

In Oregon, you must show two proofs of address to register to vote. This is also a requirement when acquiring real ID from the DMV. In Oregon, REAL ID must be obtained in person at a DMV.  office. When applying for a Real ID with a new married name, you must bridge the gap between your birth certificate and your current name using official documentation. You need to provide your marriage certificate, which acts as the legal link proving your name change from your birth name to your spouse’s last name. Birth certificates must be either original, or a certified copy issued by a U.S. state, county, or municipal authority and contains an official seal.

Getting acceptable ID can be time consuming and is not inexpensive. A new adult (age 16+) U.S. passport book costs $165 ($130 application fee + $35 acceptance fee). A new passport card costs $65 ($30 fee + $35 acceptance fee). Minor passports (under 16) cost $135 ($100 fee + $35 acceptance fee). Routine processing takes 4–6 weeks, while expedited service is an extra $60.

[Dos Equis]

Don't we all?

I will occasionally do it, but for some it's a full-time job.

[chaos]

Providing acceptable ID to register to vote and to vote, is not quite as simple as you suggest. But it isn't impossibly complicated either.

Acquiring any official documentation needed for a REAL ID takes time,

Maybe you missed the part about having 20 years to get one? It's not a surprise.
The rest of your drivel about passports is irrelevant, nobody uses a passport for day to day ID.

[Necrosis]

He keeps insisting that married broads won't be able to register to vote even though it's been explained to him that it's simply not true. He's actually gotten kind of retarded lately. He's gone the way of Agnostic, started out OK, reasonable but has got caught up in his TDS and just spiraled into a complete retard, pulling the classic Prime naivety card when faced with something he can't deal with.

who said its not true?

[Grape Ape]

Providing acceptable ID to register to vote and to vote, is not quite as simple as you suggest. But it isn't impossibly complicated either.

Acquiring any official documentation needed for a REAL ID takes time, so anyone hoping to vote needs to plan ahead several weeks at least. Passports can take four to six weeks.

In Oregon, you must show two proofs of address to register to vote. This is also a requirement when acquiring real ID from the DMV. In Oregon, REAL ID must be obtained in person at a DMV.  office. When applying for a Real ID with a new married name, you must bridge the gap between your birth certificate and your current name using official documentation. You need to provide your marriage certificate, which acts as the legal link proving your name change from your birth name to your spouse’s last name. Birth certificates must be either original, or a certified copy issued by a U.S. state, county, or municipal authority and contains an official seal.

Getting acceptable ID can be time consuming and is not inexpensive. A new adult (age 16+) U.S. passport book costs $165 ($130 application fee + $35 acceptance fee). A new passport card costs $65 ($30 fee + $35 acceptance fee). Minor passports (under 16) cost $135 ($100 fee + $35 acceptance fee). Routine processing takes 4–6 weeks, while expedited service is an extra $60.

There are workaround provisions in the Save Act:

The bill includes provisions for states to establish processes for handling name mismatches, potentially accepting additional "bridge" documents like a marriage certificate, court-ordered name change decree, or similar to connect the birth certificate to the current name.

Regardless, if these passionate voters without proper IDs exist, they have time to get them before midterms.

[chaos]

who said its not true?

The law, retard, did you bother to read it or are you just arguing to be a cunt?

[Necrosis]

There are workaround provisions in the Save Act:

Regardless, if these passionate voters without proper IDs exist, they have time to get them before midterms.

so each state has to enact it which hasn't even been fleshed out and its potentially available. This is the point, how long do you think this will take.

[Necrosis]

The law, retard, did you bother to read it or are you just arguing to be a cunt?

My guy if passed anyone with a different last name will be required to get a birth certificate. Grape ape is posting that there may be provisions potentially by individual states however its not fleshed out at all ffs.
The act doesnt even address the issues you guys are bringing up at all.

If you can't understand this after it being explained over and over and still think its a good idea to shoe horn in then....


Why did trump say they would never lose another election if it was passed?

[LurkerNoMore]

$200B for this No New War huh?  All you MAGAtards better get a second job and contribute more. 

[chaos]

My guy if passed anyone with a different last name will be required to get a birth certificate.

Can you post the part of the save act that says that or are you lying in this thread as well?

[chaos]

$200B for this No New War huh?  All you MAGAtards better get a second job and contribute more.

That's what they depend on blue states for remember? That means YOU should get a better job, selling pictures of ladybois isn't going to cut it anymore.

[Grape Ape]

so each state has to enact it which hasn't even been fleshed out and its potentially available. This is the point, how long do you think this will take.

How would I know?

If it enables them to get their shit together by midterms fine.

If it's not ready by midterms, it will be a problem.

And I mean this for married name change folks only.  The mythical unicorns who just don't have ID and supposedly want to vote, I don't care.  I don't believe they're voting anyway.  And if they are, join the fucking country and get an ID.