Took almost a week off

[Tapeworm]

If your arteries are clear...Did you have your Transient Ischemic Attack because of Atrial Fibrillation?

My pop just did.  10 minutes of lost speech.  4 attacks over about 30 years, although the AF has only been on his radar for about 15 years.

[oldtimer1]

Cholesterol is very confusing. There are people with clogged heart arteries who have under 200 total cholesterol readings. The say having high HDL's but low LDL's is the right ratio. Some say the most important is having a low LDL level. Most recent thing I have read is that the C reactive Protein reading is the most important thing because is shows inflammation that leads to a clog. I have an inherited gene that leads to high cholesterol. When my older brother many years ago had a blood test for cholesterol it came back high. He went completely vegetarian. At the time he was an endurance athlete riding a road bike many miles a week. 50 to 100 miles a day was nothing. He retested his blood and found becoming a vegetarian had no effect. Turns out we both have a liver that manufactures an excess of cholesterol.

[robcguns]

Fuck it all and die when you die.last thing i want to do is live a lomg time.

[Humble Narcissist]

Cholesterol is very confusing. There are people with clogged heart arteries who have under 200 total cholesterol readings. The say having high HDL's but low LDL's is the right ratio. Some say the most important is having a low LDL level. Most recent thing I have read is that the C reactive Protein reading is the most important thing because is shows inflammation that leads to a clog. I have an inherited gene that leads to high cholesterol. When my older brother many years ago had a blood test for cholesterol it came back high. He went completely vegetarian. At the time he was an endurance athlete riding a road bike many miles a week. 50 to 100 miles a day was nothing. He retested his blood and found becoming a vegetarian had no effect. Turns out we both have a liver that manufactures an excess of cholesterol.

Yes, it appears even the medical community is confused about it as their recommendations change often.

[Agnostic007]

Yes, it appears even the medical community is confused about it as their recommendations change often.

I think it is a matter of letting go of something that was taught as gospel when they attended med school. Some doctors today will prescribe a cholesterol med for you after just telling you the latest research indicates cholesterol and heart disease aren't related. They just can't help themselves.

[Humble Narcissist]

I think it is a matter of letting go of something that was taught as gospel when they attended med school. Some doctors today will prescribe a cholesterol med for you after just telling you the latest research indicates cholesterol and heart disease aren't related. They just can't help themselves.

Plus they get kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies.

[Twaddle]

Because the statin I’m on is literally debilitating with muscle aches and the inability to recover. Doc took me off today because he only had me on as a precaution even though my pipes are clean and a came back with a perfect blood panel.

Just an FYI for you old bastards on a statin of you’re wondering why you’re sore all the time. I was beginning to think that was overtrained.

Since he took you off the statin yesterday, have you noticed any improvement in soreness? 

[oldtimer1]

Yes, it appears even the medical community is confused about it as their recommendations change often.

What's most disturbing is that the statin companies finance the cholesterol studies. According to the studies almost 50% of the population should be on statins with no proof they extend life expectancy. It seems in my life time what's acceptable levels keep going down. It goes without saying the lower acceptable cholesterol levels goes the more statins are sold.

[Marty Champions]

The key is to have you confused there is so much statistics on all the paitients wich would lend an easy solution. If you just bought the things that worked all the rest selling shit products would loose money

[Coach is Back!]

Since he took you off the statin yesterday, have you noticed any improvement in soreness? 

I actually pulled myself off a day before he told me so this is really the third day. But along with the soreness I was just exhausted and slept more than normal until today. This the first day back in the gym and for the most part everything has seemed to subside.

[Coach is Back!]

Coach, what test do they do to make sure pipes are clean? is it a sonogram of some kind? what is the cost etc?  just wondering as I always thought bloodwork was the only way

I did CT and MRI. About a $200 for the CT and $400 to the MRI

[US MUSL]

generic Non-flushable Niacin?

This.

[Marty Champions]

Coach go vegan but high protien

[US MUSL]

I have am issue of Mens Health that describes cholesterol testing in some other countries. It goes into the different types of LDL. There are lighter/fluffier LDL molecules and heavier/stickier molecules. The stickier molecules are what will create a problem, often pared with high triglycerides. You could have elevated LDL with the lighter molecules and have no ill health effects. Unfortunately US doctors rarely test for differences in LDL.

[Coach is Back!]

Coach go vegan but high protien

It’s a myth

[sync pulse]

...There are people with clogged heart arteries who have under 200 total cholesterol readings.... I have read is that the C reactive Protein reading is the most important thing because is shows inflammation that leads to a clog...

There is the idea that scarring of the artery wall can make a surface that cholesterol can adhere to and start to build up...i have had the idea voiced to me by a cardiologist that people chronically exposed to certain Volatile Organic Chemicals can develop such scarring and so are at a greater risk of plaque buildup.

[pellius]

Cholesterol is very confusing. There are people with clogged heart arteries who have under 200 total cholesterol readings. The say having high HDL's but low LDL's is the right ratio. Some say the most important is having a low LDL level. Most recent thing I have read is that the C reactive Protein reading is the most important thing because is shows inflammation that leads to a clog. I have an inherited gene that leads to high cholesterol. When my older brother many years ago had a blood test for cholesterol it came back high. He went completely vegetarian. At the time he was an endurance athlete riding a road bike many miles a week. 50 to 100 miles a day was nothing. He retested his blood and found becoming a vegetarian had no effect. Turns out we both have a liver that manufactures an excess of cholesterol.

A doctor was explaining over the radio that the common practice for testing cholesterol was not the most accurate way. It's very useful but not optimal but used because it's way cheaper to perform this test than the more accurate but far more expensive method. I don't remember the names of each testing procedure or fully understood the mechanics behind it but he did give an example, or analogy, that put things in perspective.

Imagine cholesterol as a bunch of cars filled with passengers on a freeway. One measures just the number of cars whereas the others measure both the cars and the number of passengers in each vehicle. There is a big difference in freeway congestion with one car carrying five passengers and five cars carrying one passenger. The same amount of people being transported but with far less congestion with one car than five cars.

[kreator]

coach is back you never picked up a book regarding cholesterol, diabetes etc facts? Since you work in the field where nutrition is of significant importance i would think similar literature would be mandatory

[cephissus]

It’s a myth

My cholesterol went from 180 to 130 or something like that after 2 years vegan.

[G_Thang]

Because the statin I’m on is literally debilitating with muscle aches and the inability to recover. Doc took me off today because he only had me on as a precaution even though my pipes are clean and a came back with a perfect blood panel.

Just an FYI for you old bastards on a statin of you’re wondering why you’re sore all the time. I was beginning to think that was overtrained.

Not much on getbig is worth reading completely thru, but I thought i saw ICD aka defibrillator surgery.   That's my bad.   Carry on, miniature Mexican.

[BBSSchlemiel]

Damn, don’t ever do that again. Your muscles probably shrunk.

[Humble Narcissist]

My cholesterol went from 180 to 130 or something like that after 2 years vegan.

Cancer rates go up with very low cholesterol.  I'd rather croak from a heart attack.

[oldtimer1]

I think the best thing to do is to put the risk factors in your favor. Nothing is a cure all. Not cardio, vegetarian diets or anything else. No one cares about health till bad health is at your door. Then nothing else like wealth matters. Heart disease is the number one killer of man.  Lifting, cardio, diet and keeping a good weight are some outstanding things you can do to lower the risks. In the end it's the roulette wheel. Just bet wisely.   

[Marty Champions]

It’s a myth

whats a myth exactly about going vegan to reduce your bp?

[Humble Narcissist]

I think the best thing to do is to put the risk factors in your favor. Nothing is a cure all. Not cardio, vegetarian diets or anything else. No one cares about health till bad health is at your door. Then nothing else like wealth matters. Heart disease is the number one killer of man.  Lifting, cardio, diet and keeping a good weight are some outstanding things you can do to lower the risks. In the end it's the roulette wheel. Just bet wisely.   

Yes and stress is a huge killer as well.