RIP - Matt Porter - 05-30-19

[Twaddle]

https://www.gofundme.com/matt-porter-memorial-fund?teamInvite=Hy92z9diT2QhmhWKgDGUzWOyy1qTXeGexQk5jeU3LjlplJu1iU7iZzClsKYMMp0p

Well, at least the guy that set up the gofundme is clear about his intensions.   

"Myself, Tony Friedrich, and Phil Viz are raiding money in Matt’s honor for his wife Rachel and son Noah."

[Bevo]

Well, at least the guy that set up the gofundme is clear about his intensions.  

"Myself, Tony Friedrich, and Phil Viz are raiding money in Matt’s honor for his wife Rachel and son Noah."

Whatever happened to the Dallas McCarver Gofund me page set up by Aaron Singerman??

[Twaddle]

Whatever happened to the Dallas mccarver Gofund me page set up Aaron Jew singermann??

The money is most likely being used for his legal fund.  Trying to keep himself out of jail for the next 30 years.   

[Tbomzisback!]

The common wisdom is to train natural for a few years to get the best "base" for future bodyuilding success, and start juice when fully grown. But theoretically, and this is probably unethical in most peoples minds, I think juicing a young teen could set him up with a higher muscular set-point later in life. In Eastern block countries the docs thought future champions should be pushed very hard at the onset of puberty, girls a bit earlier than the boys. And this was because physiology, as well as psychology, is highly, or at least more plastic than it is later on. The kids are riding the natural hormone boost of puberty and developing strength and skills they can't later in life. It was done in the past and is done now as well in some countries (doping kids). I'm not going into future repercussions of it, it's obviously an issue, but the concept is interesting to me.

I have even read studies done in the west with kids and height where they have increased predicted height with aromatase inhibitors and steroids such as oxandrolone (it's estrogen that closes the growth plates). And I remember reading an article about american doctors complaining about parents asking them for growth hormones for their kids to increase the chances of them getting taller and having an athletic career.

Just some off-topic rambling on my part  

For Matt to die was too bad, seemed like a nice guy by many accounts and was supposedly very meticulous about his health, constant blood work and heart meds and health supps and Rx TRT mostly etc, dosing very low in the past few years. Although I never saw him say he had actual heart failure back in 2015.

I think this would work before/during puberty and/or while all the "growth plate" type mechanisms are still open. But after that period, the idea of training naturally and building a base probably still has merit. At least as far as the age-old principle goes... "Get as much gains as you can before increasing the dosage" goes.

[OneMoreRep]

Oh, well — he wasn't going
to write Beethoven's Ninth Symphony anyway.

You are correct sir, a tendency which you have shown to have when describing such matters. He wasn't going to write Beethoven's ninth symphony, not just because he lacked the talent to do so, but more so because Beethoven had already written it.

I think the moral of the story is that the practices involved in professional bodybuilding can lead to death if you have a predisposition to develop such things like heart failure & cancer etc (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3827559/). The ride is too short and the rewards are too small to take such risks.

I'd love a day when bodybuilding can be completely natural. A day when clean dieting, with a healthy mix of daily exercise can lead to a highly desirable body and ideally longer life, without the need for hormonal supplementation.

"1"

[LittleJ]

Oh, well — he wasn't going
to write Beethoven's Ninth Symphony anyway.

At least he made his own money. You've never worked a day in your life. Fucking freeloader, always looking for handouts. Go work you lazy bum.

[Twaddle]

At least he made his own money. You've never worked a day in your life. Fucking freeloader, always looking for handouts. Go work you lazy bum.

That is simply not true! 

[JAGO]

Oh, well — he wasn't going
to write Beethoven's Ninth Symphony anyway.

That's correct as Beethoven wrote the ninth symphony.

J

[JD34]

Curious if there was ever an Autopsy Report released?  We saw them with Rich and Dallas.  Could serve as a cautionary tale to those who think they are doing everything right.  Matt as I recall was very public with his health information.

[Humble Narcissist]

At least he made his own money. You've never worked a day in your life. Fucking freeloader, always looking for handouts. Go work you lazy bum.

Why would he work if he doesn't have to work?

[jephrius]

Curious if there was ever an Autopsy Report released?  We saw them with Rich and Dallas.  Could serve as a cautionary tale to those who think they are doing everything right.  Matt as I recall was very public with his health information.

I poked around the internet and came up with this:
https://mindandmuscle.net/articles/matt-porter-legendary-diet-coach-swears-off-peds/

[Taffin]

I poked around the internet and came up with this:
https://mindandmuscle.net/articles/matt-porter-legendary-diet-coach-swears-off-peds/

Ah, but that only tells part of the story - guess what he did next?  From the mouth of his own Wife, no less...


"In 2015 we received a phone call that his dad wasn’t well. We didn’t know what that meant so he went to oregon to see him We are almost always together but I couldn’t be with him because we had just moved and didn’t want to find care for Smokey and find somewhere for us to stay. His dad was in bad shape and I told him to stay, he stayed for 5 weeks on his own and other family problems arose causing poor Matt much stress. Unfortunately his dad passed also while matt was in the hospital. He then found out his BP had been too high for too long and he was in heart failure. He had previously brushed off his high BP because the doctor wasn’t concerned. The head of the heart failure team told us we should look into this because he should have had you on meds and monitoring this and now it is to a point we hope it will return. Thankfully his heart was fully functioning to 55 and 60 is high This was a few months later.

He went off everything (if you follow him you know this) then started TRT doses and did do experiments on single compounds, which I wish he didn’t but this was such an addiction for him. He did blood tests and heart tests regularly. We paid out of pocket often to ensure he was doing okay. Addiction runs in his family and bodybuilding was his drug of choice. He didn’t drink or smoke or do rec drugs. He has had issues still from time to time. about once a year something would happen but we could almost always pinpoint the reason. Last year when Noah was born we had to go to the ER, he had drank an ice cold shake too quickly and it threw him out of rhythm instantly just by hitting his chest on a certain beat"


https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/death-of-matt-porter/

[wes]

Curious if there was ever an Autopsy Report released?  We saw them with Rich and Dallas.  Could serve as a cautionary tale to those who think they are doing everything right.  Matt as I recall was very public with his health information.

WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. ........................ .....................FUC KFACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

[usmcdevildoc]

Shocking




Not really, ever look at that guys face. ABUSER!

No. It was the fault of those dangerous doctors in Vegas. Always make sure you can pronounce their first and last names. Beware

[usmcdevildoc]

No.

He had every opportunity to seek out a good cardiologist after going into heart failure.  He had another opportunity after drinking a goddamn milkshake almost killed him.  He didn't.  He never did the sensible thing.  He maintained an extremely unhealthy bodyweight, and kept on experimenting with drugs, to his wife's dismay.

So bad doctors are not "the reason he is dead."  That's lazy and self-serving.  He's dead because he didn't have the brains, mental toughness, and courage of Tom Prince and Mustafa Mohammad.  At some point, you've gotta step back and re-assess your priorities.

No. They got dome dangerous doctors in Vegas. He needs to sue them. Then he wouldn't need 'go fund me.'
Re: Tom Prince: didn't he pose nude for 'Colt' magazine back in the 'day'? Nice to see that common thread of exposure still exists: i.e. Eduardo Corea, Nick Trigili, etc. Lol/// not homo though they just 'working hard for their money.'

[harmankardon1]

Curious if there was ever an Autopsy Report released?  We saw them with Rich and Dallas.  Could serve as a cautionary tale to those who think they are doing everything right.  Matt as I recall was very public with his health information.

He thought he was too clever with all that bullshit... You think you can outsmart nature by reading a few journal articles and getting bloods? Bloods tell fuck all really, especially when it comes to heart issues.

He knew he had serious issues initially did the right thing, lost some weight dropped the gear, which got him back from the death zone, but then couldn't help himself and pushed it again and his very weak body couldn't take it.

It's very sad what happened but the guy should have walked away for good!

[harmankardon1]

This is what she wrote, emphasis added:
"He was in heart failure" = he had started experiencing heart failure at the age of 27

For fuck's sake, just look at Matt Porter's face in his latest videos.  Is that the face of a healthy man in his early 30s?  He's got the late-stage-terminal bloat that we've come to know.

Yeah he was in poor health.... Looked late 40's easy.

And he's there with a 3 year old and he's back on the gear and pushing up to 260 pounds or whatever after knowing all his issues... Fucking stupidity.

[a_pupil]

Yeah he was in poor health.... Looked late 40's easy.

And he's there with a 3 year old and he's back on the gear and pushing up to 260 pounds or whatever after knowing all his issues... Fucking stupidity.

It should be a sticky on every forum that if you don't look top npc competitor level within 2 years of heavy juicing, drop to fake natty doses or ideally come off totally.

It's such a pointless endeavour, and ends up a mental condition where you're dependent on the gear.

This guy ideally should have stayed away from social media as soon as he realised his health was fucked and got a job stacking shelves/doing uber if he needed to.

[BBSSchlemiel]

Yeah he was in poor health.... Looked late 40's easy.

And he's there with a 3 year old and he's back on the gear and pushing up to 260 pounds or whatever after knowing all his issues... Fucking stupidity.

Just ask Meadows and Dante, who are always “healthy” just because they go to a doctor and get blood tears, as if just showing up to the doc’s office makes one healthy. Even if a doc were to tell them the correct   thing, “get off the drugs already!”, they wouldn’t listen!

Anyway, deep down all these goons know they’re playing with fire. And they cope by announcing to the world they go to a doctor.

[tres_taco_combo]

Just ask Meadows and Dante, who are always “healthy” just because they go to a doctor and get blood tears, as if just showing up to the doc’s office makes one healthy. Even if a doc were to tell them the correct   thing, “get off the drugs already!”, they wouldn’t listen!

Anyway, deep down all these goons know they’re playing with fire. And they cope by announcing to the world they go to a doctor.

Meadows seems like a good dude, but he doesnt look healthy at all in the face

[a_pupil]

Just ask Meadows and Dante, who are always “healthy” just because they go to a doctor and get blood tears, as if just showing up to the doc’s office makes one healthy. Even if a doc were to tell them the correct   thing, “get off the drugs already!”, they wouldn’t listen!

Anyway, deep down all these goons know they’re playing with fire. And they cope by announcing to the world they go to a doctor.

dante was the most annoying with his "be responsible and go to the doctor" tripe, while himself being a 300 lbs bloated sack of sleep apnea.

I remember my "food as your main anabolic" days, I used to get those sleep freezes where your mind is awake but body won't move  . Just used to think that it part of the iron warriors' code. Also things like getting inflexible were seen as badges of honour lmao.

[Bevo]

Meadows seems like a good dude, but he doesnt look healthy at all in the face

I can’t believe he’s only 47. Thought he was well over 50+

[Coffeed]

dante was the most annoying with his "be responsible and go to the doctor" tripe, while himself being a 300 lbs bloated sack of sleep apnea.

I remember my "food as your main anabolic" days, I used to get those sleep freezes where your mind is awake but body won't move  . Just used to think that it part of the iron warriors' code. Also things like getting inflexible were seen as badges of honour lmao.

Break the silence.

Muscle is murder.

[a_pupil]

Break the silence.

Muscle is murder.

No, men are supposed to be lean, mean and athletic.

[JD34]

Just strange to me that we have this outcry and demand for info over Dallas and Rich but nobody is curious about someone who was actually training others and professing "Health".  I dont get it.  Not looking to demean or shit on him but I feel if I were to die and someone could learn from it and prevent other deaths..... I would be all for it.