For all you know alls who claimed Mike Tyson was scared of George Foreman

[AbrahamG]

Foreman did well trying to put his name out there when he came back in 1987, he created a huge hype's machine behind himself, and Tyson obviously was the guy to call out since he was the man.

Tyson also was considered somewhat similar to Frazier, by many that don't know what they're watching, so lots of people thought that Foreman had a chance. Add to that some propaganda's articles by insiders, and you had all the hype behind a possible Tyson-Foreman's matchup, with the rumor that Tyson was scared.

Now, i don't know if Foreman would've took the fight or not, seeing how he carefully picked all his opponents and avoided the big guys, probably not unless huge money. What's sure is that he had no chance whatsoever in that fight.

Foreman, who was a bigger, stronger and a better fighter when he came back, compared to his 70s caveman, lighter and green version of himself, was really too slow to compete with Tyson, and not athletic enough.

No heavyweight before Tyson's time would beat him, especially punching-bag Muhammad Ali. Tyson was too fast, too technically sound, too strong, too athletic and hit too hard for the limited guys from the 70s, 60s and before.

You no ZERO about boxing.  Please don't post in boxing threads going forward. 

[Alucard]

You no ZERO about boxing.  Please don't post in boxing threads going forward. 

Says who, you? And why, because i said Tyson would beat the crap out of those 70s hypejobs?

[Griffith]

Foreman did well trying to put his name out there when he came back in 1987, he created a huge hype's machine behind himself, and Tyson obviously was the guy to call out since he was the man.

Tyson also was considered somewhat similar to Frazier, by many that don't know what they're watching, so lots of people thought that Foreman had a chance. Add to that some propaganda's articles by insiders, and you had all the hype behind a possible Tyson-Foreman's matchup, with the rumor that Tyson was scared.

Now, i don't know if Foreman would've took the fight or not, seeing how he carefully picked all his opponents and avoided the big guys, probably not unless huge money. What's sure is that he had no chance whatsoever in that fight.

Foreman, who was a bigger, stronger and a better fighter when he came back, compared to his 70s caveman, lighter and green version of himself, was really too slow to compete with Tyson, and not athletic enough.

No heavyweight before Tyson's time would beat him, especially punching-bag Muhammad Ali. Tyson was too fast, too technically sound, too strong, too athletic and hit too hard for the limited guys from the 70s, 60s and before.

 

[Darren Avey]

Come on man, the 70s was the golden era in heavyweight boxing.  Any of the top 25 from then would smash these clowns from today

[a_pupil]

Come on man, the 70s was the golden era in heavyweight boxing.  Any of the top 25 from then would smash these clowns from today

lenny mclean would have ruled london if he was around now.

[OneMoreRep]

Foreman did well trying to put his name out there when he came back in 1987, he created a huge hype's machine behind himself, and Tyson obviously was the guy to call out since he was the man.

Tyson also was considered somewhat similar to Frazier, by many that don't know what they're watching, so lots of people thought that Foreman had a chance. Add to that some propaganda's articles by insiders, and you had all the hype behind a possible Tyson-Foreman's matchup, with the rumor that Tyson was scared.

Now, i don't know if Foreman would've took the fight or not, seeing how he carefully picked all his opponents and avoided the big guys, probably not unless huge money. What's sure is that he had no chance whatsoever in that fight.

Foreman, who was a bigger, stronger and a better fighter when he came back, compared to his 70s caveman, lighter and green version of himself, was really too slow to compete with Tyson, and not athletic enough.

No heavyweight before Tyson's time would beat him, especially punching-bag Muhammad Ali. Tyson was too fast, too technically sound, too strong, too athletic and hit too hard for the limited guys from the 70s, 60s and before.

Not sure if serious 

"1"

[che]

If Frazier beat Ali ,Tyson could have beaten Ali also, technically there is not one thing Frazier did better than Tyson.

[beakdoctor]

If Frazier beat Ali ,Tyson could have beaten Ali also, technically there is not one thing Frazier did better than Tyson.

Flawed logic.

One could just as easily say:

If Buster Douglas beat Tyson. Ali would beat Tyson. Technically there is not one thing Buster did better than Ali.

The 'if so and so beat so and so then....' argument is pointless for reasons already mentioned in this thread.

[che]

Flawed logic.

One could just as easily say

If Buster Douglas beat Tyson. Ali would beat Tyson. Technically there is not one thing Buster did better than Ali.

The 'if so and so beat so and so then....' argument is pointless for reasons already mentioned in this thread.

Yeah Ali could beat Tyson ,what's your point 

[beakdoctor]

Yeah Ali could beat Tyson ,what's your point  

Jesus christ!  can you read? Or is comprehension your problem?

[che]

Jesus christ!  can you read? Or is comprehension your problem?

Haha  ,can you read? taking about  comprehension problems .
 
I said could you said would , do you know the difference ?  many poster here think that Tyson would't stand  a chance against Ali , and said if Frazier beat  Ali  ,Tyson COULD beat him too  ,comprende.

[pellius]

Haha  ,can you read? taking about  comprehension problems .
 
I said could you said would , do you know the difference ?  many poster here think that Tyson would't stand  a chance against Ali , and said if Frazier beat  Ali  ,Tyson COULD beat him too  ,comprende.

Ali and Douglas were very different boxers. Tyson and Frazier had similar styles with Tyson being more skilled and sophisticated.

Che's analogy is very credible.

[Darren Avey]

lenny mclean would have ruled london if he was around now.

Not sure, Mr Hunt rules London nowadays

[beakdoctor]

Haha  ,can you read? taking about  comprehension problems .
 
I said could you said would , do you know the difference ?  many poster here think that Tyson would't stand  a chance against Ali , and said if Frazier beat  Ali  ,Tyson COULD beat him too  ,comprende.

1. Ali would most likely beat Tyson.

2. Could/would doesn't change the point of my post, of which you asked ' what's your point'

3. You are still missing the point.

[Griffith]

1. Ali would most likely beat Tyson.

2. Could/would doesn't change the point of my post, of which you asked ' what's your point'

3. You are still missing the point.

Agreed.

He probably would have also caused Tyson to meltdown before the fight with all his pre-fight antics. The same way he mocked Frazier, but Frazier was psychologically stronger.

[beakdoctor]

Ali and Douglas were very different boxers. Tyson and Frazier had similar styles with Tyson being more skilled and sophisticated.

Che's analogy is very credible.

If you say so. I would argue that Douglas was more similar to Ali than Frazier was to Tyson.

At his best, Douglas used a flicking jab, right cross, foot work and lateral movement. Same style as Ali. Unless you're thinking of the older Ali who relied on the rope a dope and counter punching.

Frazier used his left hook almost exclusively. The only real similarity with Tyson was his stature and head movement.

[beakdoctor]

Agreed.

He probably would have also caused Tyson to meltdown before the fight with all his pre-fight antics. The same way he mocked Frazier, but Frazier was psychologically stronger.

Excellent point. I hadn't even considered that but you are absolutely right.

[Alucard]

Not sure if serious 

"1"

Perfectly serious, nothing controversial about it either. Foreman cherry-picked his way through the 90s, facing blown-up light-heavies and cruisers, and guys he outweighed, outsized massively.

Notice that he never faced the big guys and/or big punchers like Lewis, Golota, Bowe, Tucker, Bruno, Ruddock and such. I wonder why, it's pretty obvious.

And yes Tyson would be too fast, strong and good for a slow plodder like Foreman or a featherfisted punching-bag like Ali.

Regarding the 70s being the "golden era", that's propaganda nonsense. The HWs from the 90s, 2000s and even today were and are far superior boxers and athletes, hype doesn't equal abilities.

The 70s or 60s were a crap era, their resumes are awful, everyone gets hyped only because Ali fought in it. Foreman was the only decent HW from that era. Athletes gets better over time, not worse, boxing is no exception, people needs to actually analyze fights and resumes instead of repeating the lies and bullshits of so called historians hyping up the past.

Boxing in America was a domestic sport until the 90s and the fall of the Berlin's Wall, competition was very limited.

[Humble Narcissist]

Agreed.

He probably would have also caused Tyson to meltdown before the fight with all his pre-fight antics. The same way he mocked Frazier, but Frazier was psychologically stronger.

Razor Ruddick tried the pre-fight antics with Tyson and they didn't work at all.

[Griffith]

Perfectly serious, nothing controversial about it either. Foreman cherry-picked his way through the 90s, facing blown-up light-heavies and cruisers, and guys he outweighed, outsized massively.

Notice that he never faced the big guys and/or big punchers like Lewis, Golota, Bowe, Tucker, Bruno, Ruddock and such. I wonder why, it's pretty obvious.

And yes Tyson would be too fast, strong and good for a slow plodder like Foreman or a featherfisted punching-bag like Ali.

Regarding the 70s being the "golden era", that's propaganda nonsense. The HWs from the 90s, 2000s and even today were and are far superior boxers and athletes, hype doesn't equal abilities.

The 70s or 60s were a crap era, their resumes are awful, everyone gets hyped only because Ali fought in it. Foreman was the only decent HW from that era. Athletes gets better over time, not worse, boxing is no exception, people needs to actually analyze fights and resumes instead of repeating the lies and bullshits of so called historians hyping up the past.

Boxing in America was a domestic sport until the 90s and the fall of the Berlin's Wall, competition was very limited.

 

[che]

Ali and Douglas were very different boxers. Tyson and Frazier had similar styles with Tyson being more skilled and sophisticated.

Che's analogy is very credible.

X2

. I would argue that Douglas was more similar to Ali than Frazier was to Tyson.

 The HWs from  2000s and even today were and are far superior boxers

I disagree

people needs to actually analyze fights and resumes instead of repeating the lies and bullshits of so called historians hyping up the past.

I agree

Razor Ruddick tried the pre-fight antics with Tyson and they didn't work at all.

Because it doesn't work, they are just selling the fight , trash talking during the fight that's a different story , it can work on your favor or against you.

[Humble Narcissist]

X2







I disagree

I agree


Because it doesn't work, they are just selling the fight , trash talking during the fight that's a different story , it can work on your favor or against you.

My point was that Ali wouldn't have worked up Tyson pre fight like some think.

[beakdoctor]

X2

You're such a putz. I have no doubt that you frequently sport the same stupefied look on display here. Chump.

[Pray_4_War]

Nobody was a bigger fan of Mike Tyson than me back in the day but the dude hasn't been Heavyweight Champion in almost 25 years.

So like...........

[beakdoctor]

Nobody was a bigger fan of Mike Tyson than me back in the day but the dude hasn't been Heavyweight Champion in almost 25 years.

So like...........

Great point