Shawn Ray should get smart and fly Rusty to Denver for his show...

[jwb]

The guy has major fan support right now and has a great posing routine to boot...

[240 is Back]

Bob would get mad at shawn if he did.

But that is an awesome idea!

[bigdumbbell]

do you know how much ala cart tickets are right now?

[Lift Studios]

That makes sense - let's fly the 8th place masters guy in and not Darrem Charles or any other top competitor.

 

[Billy Rosewood]

That makes sense - let's fly the 8th place masters guy in and not Darrem Charles or any other top competitor.

 

The only people who had him in 8th place are Bob, Jim Manion, and third man in that menage-a-trois...

[240 is Back]

That makes sense - let's fly the 8th place masters guy in and not Darrem Charles or any other top competitor.

 

LIFT,

You claim to be a marketing/promotions guy.
In your expertise, do you disagree that as the most talked about name in this sport for the last week, Rusty would be a helluva draw?  You cannot toe the company line that close, can you Isaac?  There is major interest in this guy.  Shawn should spring for the ticket and get Rusty in the show, where the fans all over the world would be GLUED to the their PCs to see if Rusty was a fluke, or if he's legit.

LIFT, there's less value around Darrem, despite his superior physique.  But there is massive support for Rusty right now. He elicits an emotional response from the fan- something Charles just doesn't do.

Come on LIFT, you like to bust my marketing chops. Defend yours.  Why is Darrem a bigger fan draw than Rusty right now, therefore more worthy of a plane ticket??

[candidate2025]

i personally would never do to a show to see darremm charles.   hes just biceps. and although people say hes a good poser..and i dont like hi routines.

[Ex Coelis]

i personally would never do to a show to see darremm charles.   hes just biceps. and although people say hes a good poser..and i dont like hi routines.

come on - give Darrem some love! His posing is art - his phyisque is poetry - and he's a cool guy. He might not be a Markus Ruhl, but to say he's all biceps is absurd.

[Lift Studios]

LIFT,

You claim to be a marketing/promotions guy.
In your expertise, do you disagree that as the most talked about name in this sport for the last week, Rusty would be a helluva draw?  You cannot toe the company line that close, can you Isaac?  There is major interest in this guy.  Shawn should spring for the ticket and get Rusty in the show, where the fans all over the world would be GLUED to the their PCs to see if Rusty was a fluke, or if he's legit.

LIFT, there's less value around Darrem, despite his superior physique.  But there is massive support for Rusty right now. He elicits an emotional response from the fan- something Charles just doesn't do.

Come on LIFT, you like to bust my marketing chops. Defend yours.  Why is Darrem a bigger fan draw than Rusty right now, therefore more worthy of a plane ticket??

Contrary to the CLOWN CONSPIRACY theorists here, no I do not believe Rusty would be a "helluva draw". He may be the hot ticket for you to push your agenda this week but you'll move on to something else soon enough. Based on photos, yes I think Rusty should have been in the top 5, but that pales in comparison against Charles, Haidar, Heath, Henry and others in the lineup. No offense against Rusty, he looked good, not great but good. He's only a major interest to you and your insane internet clown posse. Hate to break it to ya, but flying Rusty out here would not draw more fans.

If you think Rusty Jeffers has more value then Darrem, you truly are delusional.Have you seen Darrem pose? Evidently not, his posing routine draws a crowd. While Rusty is a good poser, he's not a top competitor, plain and simple. Anyone who follows bodybuilding knows Darrem puts more fans in the seats then Rusty Jeffers.

I've got $100 says you have some new conspiracy theory after the Colorado Show, not matter what the results. Henry, Heath, charles - no matter who wins it you'll claim FIX - XYZ got hosed.

[Billy Rosewood]

Contrary to the CLOWN CONSPIRACY theorists here, no I do not believe Rusty would be a "helluva draw". He may be the hot ticket for you to push your agenda this week but you'll move on to something else soon enough. Based on photos, yes I think Rusty should have been in the top 5, but that pales in comparison against Charles, Haidar, Heath, Henry and others in the lineup. No offense against Rusty, he looked good, not great but good. He's only a major interest to you and your insane internet clown posse. Hate to break it to ya, but flying Rusty out here would not draw more fans.

If you think Rusty Jeffers has more value then Darrem, you truly are delusional.Have you seen Darrem pose? Evidently not, his posing routine draws a crowd. While Rusty is a good poser, he's not a top competitor, plain and simple. Anyone who follows bodybuilding knows Darrem puts more fans in the seats then Rusty Jeffers.

Isaac,

Chick-O The Clown is sad.  He thinks you are falling in love with Darrem Charles and out of love with him.

[bigdumbbell]

does southwest fly there.  those seats are cheap.

[Lift Studios]

All the faithful clowns of getbig should start a fund to fly Rusty to Colorado to compete.

[240 is Back]

Hate to break it to ya, but flying Rusty out here would not draw more fans.

We'll have to disagree there, LIFT.

Rusty being in the show would be the news story of the week.  As much as you've worked to hype the show- and it's a good show- the big news story right now is not the upcomoing COlo Pro.  

And if you feel that Rusty being in the show would not generate revenue in excess of that plane ticket, you're extremely offbase and Shawn should reconsider his choice in who he goes to for advice.  I could swing $2k in ad revenue for Shawn TODAY with a quick launch of the Rusty Statement Show- Letting the physiques do the talking at the Colorado Pro.  I could swing $10K in ad revenue if Bob AND Rusty did the show.

Pit Rusty against Bob Chick in a rematch.  You're insane to think that tickets wouldn't sell like crazy.  Even if they ended up 4th and 5th.  RUSTY is big news right now.  Whether you want to admit it or not.

I know you're tied into the whole muscle beauty/respect thing, but I am in tune with the heartbeat of the fans, LIFT.  Whether they agree or disagree- they respond emotionally.  And that is where your ticket sales and web ad revenue is generated.

But what do I know?

[MB]

LIFT, there's less value around Darrem, despite his superior physique.  But there is massive support for Rusty right now. He elicits an emotional response from the fan- something Charles just doesn't do.

I agree.  If the top draw is Darrem Charles, that's not going to get it done.  Bringing in Rusty would add an element of interest.  It may not equate to bigger ticket sales, but it would create a stir.  There would also be extra pressure on the judges to give this guy some fair comparisons, since their questionable judging in NY has not gone unnoticed. 

[240 is Back]

I agree.  If the top draw is Darrem Charles, that's not going to get it done.  Bringing in Rusty would add an element of interest.  It may not equate to bigger ticket sales, but it would create a stir.  There would also be extra pressure on the judges to give this guy some fair comparisons, since their questionable judging in NY has not gone unnoticed. 

Plus, with Rusty in the lineup, you could command MUCH more revenue for ad space and stage banner sales, as you could count on some seriously increased numbers of fan tune-ins.

LIFT, the ironic thing, is that this Rusty thing is a BLESSING to you.  You're just too blind to embrace it.

[bigdumbbell]

i though melvin was derrem  and i dont think anybody in their right mind would fly market rate to denver colorado to see those two guys in a show.

[Mr. Intenseone]

That makes sense - let's fly the 8th place masters guy in and not Darrem Charles or any other top competitor.

 

You make it sound as if he deserved 8th place. Thats like saying "Lets get a guy who places low in pro shows and like a 16th in the Olympia (4 or so years ago) pay him $4.3mil and make him an "Athletes Rep" and be a spokesperson for BB.com!! Does that sound about right !!

[gordiano]

That makes sense - let's fly the 8th place masters guy in and not Darrem Charles or any other top competitor.

 

I'm sure the competitors you make sites for would appreciate you talking like that. Nice comment by an industry "insider".

[Lift Studios]

Plus, with Rusty in the lineup, you could command MUCH more revenue for ad space and stage banner sales, as you could count on some seriously increased numbers of fan tune-ins.

LIFT, the ironic thing, is that this Rusty thing is a BLESSING to you.  You're just too blind to embrace it.

You're out of your mind. The guy placing 8th, 5th or even 2nd at the Master's show is not a big draw.

Phil Heath, Bill Willmore and Marcus Haley - USAs, Nationals and North American champions all battling against each other in their pro debts - now that is interesting.

Put your pipe down and move back to the X, Y or Z board where your logic makes sense.

[Mr. Intenseone]

You're out of your mind. The guy placing 8th, 5th or even 2nd at the Master's show is not a big draw.

Phil Heath, Bill Willmore and Marcus Haley - USAs, Nationals and North American champions all battling against each other in their pro debts - now that is interesting.

Put your pipe down and move back to the X, Y or Z board where your logic makes sense.

But if Bob entered it would be a big draw??

[jwb]

Promoters need to get smarter and capitalize when someone gets a groundswell of support as has happened this week.

 

[candidate2025]

You're out of your mind. The guy placing 8th, 5th or even 2nd at the Master's show is not a big draw.

Phil Heath, Bill Willmore and Marcus Haley - USAs, Nationals and North American champions all battling against each other in their pro debts - now that is interesting.

Put your pipe down and move back to the X, Y or Z board where your logic makes sense.

in all honesty his physique is almost an excact replica of branch warrens...minus the big legs..but add in a smaller more taered waist.

[benchthis]

shawn would never have a ex porn star in his show with him being a good christian

[240 is Back]

You're out of your mind. The guy placing 8th, 5th or even 2nd at the Master's show is not a big draw.

Phil Heath, Bill Willmore and Marcus Haley - USAs, Nationals and North American champions all battling against each other in their pro debts - now that is interesting.

Put your pipe down and move back to the X, Y or Z board where your logic makes sense.

LIFT, stop being small minded.  We're not talking about rankings or past wins.  We're talking about NEWS.  People are going to watch current topics.  Ask 100 getbiggers to tell us ANYTHING about Haley or WIllmore.  Most can't, cause there is NO STORY.  Ask 100 getbiggers who rusty is. I bet you 80 of them will give you a spirited response about who he is, what he does, and why they feel he was fairly/unfairly placed at a recent show.

LIFT, you're thinking INSIDE the box, man.   You're basing your decision making process on old trends and predictable numbers.  You're not taking into consideration the current mood of the sport.  You're IGNORING the midset of your prospect/TARGET cutomer.  WHy would you do this?  WHy base your decisions upon athletes that won their pro card 14 months ago, instead of a guy that was arguably robbed LAST WEEK.  

Who are the fans talking about, Isaac?  THAT is what you should be marketing.  I can't believe you're blind to these facts.

[jwb]

LIFT, stop being small minded.  We're not talking about rankings or past wins.  We're talking about NEWS.  People are going to watch current topics.  Ask 100 getbiggers to tell us ANYTHING about Haley or WIllmore.  Most can't, cause there is NO STORY.  Ask 100 getbiggers who rusty is. I bet you 80 of them will give you a spirited response about who he is, what he does, and why they feel he was fairly/unfairly placed at a recent show.

LIFT, you're thinking INSIDE the box, man.   You're basing your decision making process on old trends and predictable numbers.  You're not taking into consideration the current mood of the sport.  You're IGNORING the midset of your prospect/TARGET cutomer.  WHy would you do this?  WHy base your decisions upon athletes that won their pro card 14 months ago, instead of a guy that was arguably robbed LAST WEEK.  

Who are the fans talking about, Isaac?  THAT is what you should be marketing.  I can't believe you're blind to these facts.

you gotta strike when/where the iron is hot afterall...