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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23450 on: January 17, 2023, 11:10:25 AM »
A great event would be a strict curl competition against the Great Wall of China.

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23451 on: January 17, 2023, 11:10:51 AM »
No I am done interrupting my workouts with nonsensical Getbig challenges. I am going to stick to my workouts and share what I do if you don’t like the workouts I share don’t do them.  Since you are an IFBb pro hopefully you will qualify and we can both compete at the Olympia this year.

I wont be qualified for Mr. Olympia this year.

I sincerely wish you would win the title of Mr. Olympia strict curl.

So there is no way you can do standard standing barbell curl 150 lbs without cheating, even it is twice less hard than strict curl against wall?





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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23452 on: January 17, 2023, 11:15:03 AM »
Coz you can't do the standard standing barbell curl with 150lbs without it becoming a massive cheat curl...
So what is the weight your using for your strict standing barbell curl that translates well into your strict curl?
I haven't tried a 1 rep max strict curl, though i have done them for reps against the wall. You claim your 150 lb strict curl then can easily be done by you in a standing curl not cheat curl. You make the claims but don't want to back them up. It's not nonsense to want to see proof.
People give you props and you still see it as being attacked.  Your 150 strict is good,  now back up the claims your making!

No I am done interrupting my workouts with nonsensical Getbig challenges. I am going to stick to my workouts and share what I do if you don’t like the workouts I share don’t do them.  Since you are an IFBb pro hopefully you will qualify and we can both compete at the Olympia this year.

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23453 on: January 17, 2023, 11:16:31 AM »
I wont be qualified for Mr. Olympia this year.

I sincerely wish you would win the title of Mr. Olympia strict curl.

So there is no way you can do standard standing barbell curl 150 lbs without cheating, even it is twice less hard than strict curl against wall?

Correct no one can do standing barbell curls without some degree of cheating they are going to move due to mechanics and that some degree makes a massive difference it is much harder to do them against a wall. Again though you can prove this to yourself you don’t need me do the heaviest standing barbell curl you think you can do without cheating then try it against a wall the weight won’t even move

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23454 on: January 17, 2023, 11:17:15 AM »
If you are standing you are cheating you would realize that if you tried it against a wall it’s not just swinging it’s leaning the slightest lean changes everything it’s much easier standing without a wall again though you said you tried against a wall and couldn’t do what you did without the wall doesn’t that answer your own question??

You can strict curl against a wall you just have to use less weight because it’s harder

Yes I have tried both. I can do standard standing barbell curl 110 lbs max for 1 rep without cheating. I can do 135 lb strict curl against wall.

It is obviously I curl less standard standing without cheating than against wall.

You said you could curl the same or more weight with standard standing barbell curl without cheating than strict curl against wall, which i have never seen anyone can do that.

Could you show us how you standard standing barbell curl 150 lbs without cheating?


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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23455 on: January 17, 2023, 11:18:51 AM »
Coz you can't do the standard standing barbell curl with 150lbs without it becoming a massive cheat curl...
So what is the weight your using for your strict standing barbell curl that translates well into your strict curl?
I haven't tried a 1 rep max strict curl, though i have done them for reps against the wall. You claim your 150 lb strict curl then can easily be done by you in a standing curl not cheat curl. You make the claims but don't want to back them up. It's not nonsense to want to see proof.
People give you props and you still see it as being attacked.  Your 150 strict is good,  now back up the claims your making!

Sounds like we are talking to a log.


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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23456 on: January 17, 2023, 11:21:06 AM »
1000 pages by the end of the week. 

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23457 on: January 17, 2023, 11:28:07 AM »
You could not be more wrong and you would understand that in an instant if you tried it. Obviously when doing a standing barbell curl you can try to move as little as possible but as you said its as possible it is not strict your body is absolutely going to move some without the wall. It is absolutely much more difficult with a wall. Why do I have to argue with you idiots about it for 50 pages when you could try it and find out in 30 seconds you couldn't be more wrong but you just want to argue out of ignorance. By definition no wall it's a cheat curl whether you swing your butt and back a foot or just lean back an inch it's not strict and it is much much easier.

keep your fucking form without using the wall as support you idiotic stupid kunt

You would not be able to perform a strict barbell curl without cheating with 150 as you would with a wall behind you

So by definition a strict curl is actually allowing you to cheat and move more weight

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23458 on: January 17, 2023, 11:36:06 AM »
Correct no one can do standing barbell curls without some degree of cheating they are going to move due to mechanics and that some degree makes a massive difference it is much harder to do them against a wall. Again though you can prove this to yourself you don’t need me do the heaviest standing barbell curl you think you can do without cheating then try it against a wall the weight won’t even move

no it isnt, its easier, you can do 150 with a wall but you couldnt strict curl 100lbs without cheating

Why cant you grasp this fact

Is it that you dont want to admit that you are competing in a fucking stupid endeavour?

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23459 on: January 17, 2023, 11:37:45 AM »
Yes I have tried both. I can do standard standing barbell curl 110 lbs max for 1 rep without cheating. I can do 135 lb strict curl against wall.

It is obviously I curl less standard standing without cheating than against wall.

You said you could curl the same or more weight with standard standing barbell curl without cheating than strict curl against wall, which i have never seen anyone can do that.

Could you show us how you standard standing barbell curl 150 lbs without cheating?

pound for pound way stronger than Hankins

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23460 on: January 17, 2023, 11:49:19 AM »
pound for pound way stronger than Hankins

Again you say without cheating and again your body is going to cheat whether you want it to or not even if you stay perfectly stiff and straight you are going to lean back due to mechanics during the lift just subjective nonsense claiming you are strict at 110 and cheating at 111 you don’t know what you are talking about and are now making shit up to support your argument.

But More importantly you weigh 190lbs and say you can strict curl 135lbs. I weighed in at 219 at the weigh in and strict curled 156.5 in the meet.I actually weighed 212 that morning but let’s stick with my official weight from the night before.

Based on absolute strength all that really matters I am stronger but you are a munchkin so let’s review the Wilks. According to that weird calculus I am also stronger but like you said you are an IFBB pro not a powerlifter. So let’s see which one of us qualifies for the Olympia this year in our chosen event since they do powerlifting and IFBB Pro bodybuilding .

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23461 on: January 17, 2023, 11:51:05 AM »
pound for pound way stronger than Hankins

Not according to wilks Mm weighed in at 190 recently I weighed in at 219 the night before and 212 the morning off when I competed and lifted 156.5 at my meet. But let’s go with my official night before weigh in

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23462 on: January 17, 2023, 11:54:20 AM »
Again you say without cheating and again your body is going to cheat whether you want it to or not even if you stay perfectly stiff and straight you are going to lean back due to mechanics during the lift just subjective nonsense claiming you are strict at 110 and cheating at 111 you don’t know what you are talking about and are now making shit up to support your argument.

But More importantly you weigh 190lbs and say you can strict curl 135lbs. I weighed in at 219 at the weigh in and strict curled 156.5 in the meet.I actually weighed 212 that morning but let’s stick with my official weight from the night before.

Based on absolute strength all that really matters I am stronger but you are a munchkin so let’s review the Wilks. According to that weird calculus I am also stronger but like you said you are an IFBB pro not a powerlifter. So let’s see which one of us qualifies for the Olympia this year in our chosen event since they do powerlifting and IFBB Pro bodybuilding .

can you do a strict standing curl with no wall with 10lbs without moving or arching your back, if yes then its not impossible to do a standing curl with 150 if you were strong enough

The reason you cheat and use momentum is because your biceps are unable to move the weight

So when you stand against the wall you can assist the biceps with the support of the wall

Why can you not grasp this fact

I know its difficult for you to have your illusions shattered now its been pointed out the stupidity and irrelevance of your new chosen sport because of your condition.

Everyone else can see it apart from you

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23463 on: January 17, 2023, 11:55:02 AM »
Not according to wilks Mm weighed in at 190 recently I weighed in at 219 the night before and 212 the morning off when I competed and lifted 156.5 at my meet. But let’s go with my official night before weigh in

he lied like you, hes really 160

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23464 on: January 17, 2023, 12:04:23 PM »
Not according to wilks Mm weighed in at 190 recently I weighed in at 219 the night before and 212 the morning off when I competed and lifted 156.5 at my meet. But let’s go with my official night before weigh in

so you added 18 lbs in less than 2 weeks? without changing your drug regiment.

I notice you don't post your BP results anymore.

I'm guessing you are on the A-bombs again for the curl contest anemia alongside beta blockers.

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23465 on: January 17, 2023, 12:08:04 PM »
can you do a strict standing curl with no wall with 10lbs without moving or arching your back, if yes then its not impossible to do a standing curl with 150 if you were strong enough

The reason you cheat and use momentum is because your biceps are unable to move the weight

So when you stand against the wall you can assist the biceps with the support of the wall

Why can you not grasp this fact

I know its difficult for you to have your illusions shattered now its been pointed out the stupidity and irrelevance of your new chosen sport because of your condition.

Everyone else can see it apart from you

Because you couldn’t be more wrong by all means try it and find out the wall assist the biceps now are you high the wall prevents you from assisting the biceps that is the entire point

You can claim it is irrelevant all you want I will just keep signing up and competing  in the multiple events and organizations that have competitors on it throughout the year and hopefully be competing at the Olympia this year and the Arnold next you know those 2 irrelevant events

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23466 on: January 17, 2023, 12:11:02 PM »
so you added 18 lbs in less than 2 weeks? without changing your drug regiment.

I notice you don't post your BP results anymore.

I'm guessing you are on the A-bombs again for the curl contest anemia alongside beta blockers.

I don’t even know wtf Beta Blockers are and I am not taking any orals of any form I didn’t add weight I lost weight and gained it back again I will comfortably compete at 220lbs all year you guys can cry about my weight all you want I was 219lbs at the official weigh in

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23467 on: January 17, 2023, 12:11:14 PM »
When arms are bigger than your legs and non-existent calves, which you might already be there, do you realize how bad that looks? 

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23468 on: January 17, 2023, 12:14:43 PM »
When arms are bigger than your legs and non-existent calves, which you might already be there, do you realize how bad that looks?

My calves actually look pretty good in real life. I am training my legs and they will continue to improve but they are not small they are bigger than an average man and an average weigh lifter. I just happen to have a Big upper body.

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23469 on: January 17, 2023, 12:22:12 PM »
Bhanky reminds me of the retarded kid in my class at school. I got an A in a Physics exam and he got an F. After we got our grades I showed him the formulas I used and he proceeded to confidently tell me that I had used the wrong ones.

I wish we could hear some stories from Bhankys former schoolmates. If he's like this as an adult I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was still toilet training as a teen.


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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23470 on: January 17, 2023, 12:24:01 PM »
The wall gives you something to brace against, to give you opposing force. This allows the biceps to do the work. Trying to strictly just use the biceps to do the work in a standing biceps curl with the same weight would turn into a big cheat curl as there is no support. Again to achieve a similar strict only standing biceps curl the weight would have to drop dramatically to stop any swinging or momentum.
Try doing the standing curl with your 150 on video if you swing, then drop down in increments to see how much lower you have to go to only partially move your body when performing the curl.
No one is debating the fact it isn't strict to do it against the wall


Because you couldn’t be more wrong by all means try it and find out the wall assist the biceps now are you high the wall prevents you from assisting the biceps that is the entire point

You can claim it is irrelevant all you want I will just keep signing up and competing  in the multiple events and organizations that have competitors on it throughout the year and hopefully be competing at the Olympia this year and the Arnold next you know those 2 irrelevant events

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23471 on: January 17, 2023, 12:30:26 PM »
I don’t even know wtf Beta Blockers are and I am not taking any orals of any form I didn’t add weight I lost weight and gained it back again I will comfortably compete at 220lbs all year you guys can cry about my weight all you want I was 219lbs at the official weigh in


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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23472 on: January 17, 2023, 12:32:52 PM »
The wall gives you something to brace against, to give you opposing force. This allows the biceps to do the work. Trying to strictly just use the biceps to do the work in a standing biceps curl with the same weight would turn into a big cheat curl as there is no support. Again to achieve a similar strict only standing biceps curl the weight would have to drop dramatically to stop any swinging or momentum.
Try doing the standing curl with your 150 on video if you swing, then drop down in increments to see how much lower you have to go to only partially move your body when performing the curl.
No one is debating the fact it isn't strict to do it against the wall

Again dude stop overthinking it and just try it then you would actually know your wrong in an instant the fuck are you talking about drip the weight until you only partially move with a wall you can’t move at all it is exponentially harder idiot 

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23473 on: January 17, 2023, 12:48:18 PM »
I don’t even know wtf Beta Blockers are and I am not taking any orals of any form I didn’t add weight I lost weight and gained it back again I will comfortably compete at 220lbs all year you guys can cry about my weight all you want I was 219lbs at the official weigh in

a few weeks you claimed you read everything regarding steroids' ever written . Particularly, you mentioned you read everything written by Dan Duchaine.

yet another lie.

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Re: I bet half of you didn't even lift today
« Reply #23474 on: January 17, 2023, 01:02:32 PM »
Because you couldn’t be more wrong by all means try it and find out the wall assist the biceps now are you high the wall prevents you from assisting the biceps that is the entire point

You can claim it is irrelevant all you want I will just keep signing up and competing  in the multiple events and organizations that have competitors on it throughout the year and hopefully be competing at the Olympia this year and the Arnold next you know those 2 irrelevant events
I give up , you really are the most retarded person ever to post here and that is some achievement