Covid-19 - WAKE THE FUCK UP SHEEP LIKE PEOPLE - Discussion

[Matt C]

Your numbers are incorrect.

The average 84 year old will live to 92 (in Canada).

That means people are dying 8 years earlier on average and half longer than that.

WOW!  Finally you have given a statistic that is accurate, from what I can tell!

YES, it is the case that people who make it to 84 live, on average, until the age of 92.  I am NOT clear on why that is.  I mean...if the average lifespan is only 78, I don't know why 84-year-olds live that long.

My suspicion is that people who live to 84 have generally made it so far by having good genetics and a good lifestyle, and those are not an "average" subset of people, and therefore, they live much longer than the average.

Do you have a theory on that, OAK?

That being said, if you are 84 AND with numerous health conditions, I really don't see you living much longer!

I don't get why you think this virus is as deadly as you do?

[OAK]

WOW!  Finally you have given a statistic that is accurate, from what I can tell!

YES, it is the case that people who make it to 84 live, on average, until the age of 92.  I am NOT clear on why that is.  I mean...if the average lifespan is only 78, I don't know why 84-year-olds live that long.

My suspicion is that people who live to 84 have generally made it so far by having good genetics and a good lifestyle, and those are not an "average" subset of people, and therefore, they live much longer than the average.

Do you have a theory on that, OAK?

That being said, if you are 84 AND with numerous health conditions, I really don't see you living much longer!

I don't get why you think this virus is as deadly as you do?

I believe you’re right. They were all lucky enough to avoid cancer.


The numbers are post vaccine and post government mandate.

They would have been much worse otherwise.

 

[Matt C]

I believe you’re right. They were all lucky enough to avoid cancer.


The numbers are post vaccine and post government mandate.

They would have been much worse otherwise.

OAK - one of the theories is that supercentenarians [those who live to age 110 or older] have LARGER cholesterol molecules, which prevents their arteries from being clogged!!!  That makes sense...picture small particles completely blocking a passageway, versus larger particles - there would be space AROUND the larger cholesterol molecules for blood to pass through!

Maybe that is why 84-year-olds live to 92?

But they weren't JUST 84 - most had many underlying viruses.

So OAK - let's say we have a new virus that made EVERYONE live five years less.  Ok.  Well...mandates CLEARLY haven't stopped it from spreading.  Nothing short of an permanent authoritarian lockdown will.

So even IF the mandates worked, they would only be saving the most immunocompromised people a few years.
 And they still cause all sorts of problems.

Let's say we could have saved EVERYONE who died, with these mandates.  So 634,440 of those 933,000 people who died had SIX or more underlying diseases, and were 84 years old, on average.  So we should basically close down the economy to give those people two more years to live?

I don't think that's fair.

Most people know more people injured by the vaccines than by Covid itself at this point, lol.

No chance any of this holds up.

OAK: do you think we will still have mandates in one year time? 

[Never1AShow]

Seriously, who cares.  ChOak is a JOak who dreads going back to not being a "hero" healthcare profeshunal so he'll pimp scaremongering to take his mind off of the bed pans filling up for him/

[mac33]

Oak you are a total wackjob, I am amazed there are people that think like you.

He is not a whack job, he is doing what he is expected to, as a sellout.

[Matt]

Seriously, who cares.  ChOak is a JOak who dreads going back to not being a "hero" healthcare profeshunal so he'll pimp scaremongering to take his mind off of the bed pans filling up for him/

Hm...

Maybe OAK does just want that attention, as you said.

He tends to "other" people.

For example, he thinks all the protestors are ignorant redneck truckers, or that the extreme ones are all from the USA. This allows OAK to write these people off.

He thinks the ones dying from the vaccine are normal people, lol. And people who are politically against the vaccines...meanwhile, most of them are just eldwrly people who didn't get vaccinated. A disproportionate number are non-Whites who don't have the financial power to take a day off work and make it to a pharmacy to get the shots.

None of that meets OAK's narrative though, lol.

Most of the "unvaccinated" who are dying are vulnerable in other ways. If there were LOTS of healthy people dying, it would have happened by now.

As for those injured by the vaccines - to be fair, vaccine injuries ARE rare, but unlike Covid, they won't discriminate by age. So you end up getting otherwise healthy people getting hurt, like this woman, from my city:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-mallory-get-lifesaving-treatment

https://mobile.twitter.com/MalloryFlank

[OAK]

OAK - one of the theories is that supercentenarians [those who live to age 110 or older] have LARGER cholesterol molecules, which prevents their arteries from being clogged!!!  That makes sense...picture small particles completely blocking a passageway, versus larger particles - there would be space AROUND the larger cholesterol molecules for blood to pass through!

Maybe that is why 84-year-olds live to 92?

But they weren't JUST 84 - most had many underlying viruses.

So OAK - let's say we have a new virus that made EVERYONE live five years less.  Ok.  Well...mandates CLEARLY haven't stopped it from spreading.  Nothing short of an permanent authoritarian lockdown will.

So even IF the mandates worked, they would only be saving the most immunocompromised people a few years.
 And they still cause all sorts of problems.

Let's say we could have saved EVERYONE who died, with these mandates.  So 634,440 of those 933,000 people who died had SIX or more underlying diseases, and were 84 years old, on average.  So we should basically close down the economy to give those people two more years to live?

I don't think that's fair.

Most people know more people injured by the vaccines than by Covid itself at this point, lol.

No chance any of this holds up.

OAK: do you think we will still have mandates in one year time? 

Your logic is out of order.

It's not about using government mandates to save 900,000 it's about preventing MILLIONS more from dying (which is what happened).

Also it's about preventing the hospitals from being overrun.

[Never1AShow]

Hm...

Maybe OAK does just want that attention, as you said.

He tends to "other" people.

For example, he thinks all the protestors are ignorant redneck truckers, or that the extreme ones are all from the USA. This allows OAK to write these people off.

He thinks the ones dying from the vaccine are normal people, lol. And people who are politically against the vaccines...meanwhile, most of them are just eldwrly people who didn't get vaccinated. A disproportionate number are non-Whites who don't have the financial power to take a day off work and make it to a pharmacy to get the shots.

None of that meets OAK's narrative though, lol.

Most of the "unvaccinated" who are dying are vulnerable in other ways. If there were LOTS of healthy people dying, it would have happened by now.

As for those injured by the vaccines - to be fair, vaccine injuries ARE rare, but unlike Covid, they won't discriminate by age. So you end up getting otherwise healthy people getting hurt, like this woman, from my city:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-mallory-get-lifesaving-treatment

https://mobile.twitter.com/MalloryFlank

I appreciate your wanting to set him straight on a bunch of things even if he is a troll.  Heck, I don't know who is dumber ChOak or me for even commenting on him.

[OAK]

Hey Matt.

This guy’s younger than you?

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[OAK]

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[joswift]

Hey Matt.

This guy’s younger than you?

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isnt it odd that they always mention anti vaxer when someone dies with covid but never mention if they are vaccinated.

[OAK]

isnt it odd that they always mention anti vaxer when someone dies with covid but never mention if they are vaccinated.

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[OAK]

isnt it odd that they always mention anti vaxer when someone dies with covid but never mention if they are vaccinated.

He wasn’t vaccinated.

But he changed his mind.

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[Irongrip400]

Hey Matt.

This guy’s younger than you?

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Do younger people die of flu and pneumonia every year as well?

[OAK]

Do younger people die of flu and pneumonia every year as well?

Yes. Why do you ask?

[illuminati]

isnt it odd that they always mention anti vaxer when someone dies with covid but never mention if they are vaccinated.

well that wouldn't fit in with their narrative - IF there was any Fair Honest reporting both would
be reported - And Still The Stupid Sheep like Cannot Admit / See / Believe the information
being fed them is Biased & Lies.

[OAK]

well that wouldn't fit in with their narrative - IF there was any Fair Honest reporting both would
be reported - And Still The Stupid Sheep like Cannot Admit / See / Believe the information
being fed them is Biased & Lies.

That ABSOLUTE irony of this post.

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[WalterWhite]

well that wouldn't fit in with their narrative - IF there was any Fair Honest reporting both would
be reported - And Still The Stupid Sheep like Cannot Admit / See / Believe the information
being fed them is Biased & Lies.

The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it - George Orwell

[illuminati]

The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it - George Orwell

No doubt the resident Cloaca will be along to dismiss that video
with -  The Absolute Irony of your Post
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[OAK]

well that wouldn't fit in with their narrative - IF there was any Fair Honest reporting both would
be reported - And Still The Stupid Sheep like Cannot Admit / See / Believe the information
being fed them is Biased & Lies.

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[OAK]

LOL at the “hard core” right wing antivaxxer truckers.

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[Matt]

LOL at the “hard core” right wing antivaxxer truckers.

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^ She sounds like a leftist to me. Proof that the anti-mandate people are from all political stripes. 

[Matt]

OAK - great new video for you to watch!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ydGsbGtOb4fm/

[Matt]

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I do question the vaccine conspiracy.

Serious myocarditis risk only appears to be around 1 in 10,000. I expected it to be closer to 1 in 500!!

I expected more heart attacks and strokes, and more deaths.

I would say the vaccine is useless for those under 30, as the risk of being injured from the vaccine is higher than the risk from the virus.

But I expected to be able to say that for anyone under age 65. It's DEFINITELY true for <30 people...but not necessarily <65.

[Primemuscle]

My post COVID hacking cough is still hanging in there. It gets marginally better each day. At this rate, I will still be coughing for another 6 months. I have lost a total of 9 lbs. since getting COVID. Coughing tightens the abdominals...that's the only positive thing I can think of to say right now.