Honestly, how effective is karate?

[Darren Avey]

Like in a bar brawl, in the real world not cobra kai.
Would this guy own the streets for instance?
https://www.northsomersettimes.co.uk/sport/peter-awarded-his-9th-dan-4501944

[Grape Ape]

Have found it very effective here:

[bhank]

If you are good any style can be effective. But being good is more than skill it also means physicality and this dude is being awarded for 50 years of teaching. He was an olympic Karate guy in 1977 maybe in 1977 he might have been a bad ass. But fuck no not now he is a 70 year old man

[bhank]

Have found it very effective here:

The key to that game is just to do a front flip over the guy and then a spinning back headkick works every time all the way through for a full point and 1000 to the end of the game

[illuminati]

I've done that move down the pub a fair few times myself.

So have I a few when Slipping on Black Ice !!!! 

[Cook]

I took karate when I was a kid and there was about 20 of us and we were paired off working on some move and I heard some kid yell “ hey!” So we all stopped. He said the guy he was working with just grabbed his hair and jerked him down. “That’s not karate” he said. The instructor asked did it work? Kid said yeah the instructor said “then it’s karate”

[robcguns]

I have beaten up a black belt and I got beat up by a black belt so not sure hahaha.  I knew them both and they were always feared by locals cause they were black belts. I couldn’t care less what skills You may have I love to fight more so years ago but still enjoy a throw down here and there. Sometimes I win sometimes I lose. It’s fun either way.

[bhank]

I have beaten up a black belt and I got beat up by a black belt so not sure hahaha.  I knew them both and they were always feared by locals cause they were black belts. I couldn’t care less what skills You may have I love to fight more so years ago but still enjoy a throw down here and there. Sometimes I win sometimes I lose. It’s fun either way.

You are a big strong dude they have weight classes for a reason Bruce Lee would get stomped to death by the average Getbigger. In real life dude was 5foot7 and 130-140lbs. Skills are great but you have to have physicality to match it as well.

[kreator]

Karate sucks for street fighting.

[bhank]

Karate sucks for street fighting.

Any training in any discipline is great as most people have none in any

[Humble Narcissist]

You are a big strong dude they have weight classes for a reason Bruce Lee would get stomped to death by the average Getbigger. In real life dude was 5foot7 and 130-140lbs. Skills are great but you have to have physicality to match it as well.

Yeah, most practitioners spend too much time learning new techniques. A person could master 5 good techniques or so and spend the rest of his time on getting faster, stronger, body conditioned for contact, sparring, etc,  and would be much better off. If more karate guys trained like boxers there would be a lot more tough karate guys.

[rick doot]

Like in a bar brawl, in the real world not cobra kai.
Would this guy own the streets for instance?
https://www.northsomersettimes.co.uk/sport/peter-awarded-his-9th-dan-4501944

TBombz> Martyn Ford > Peter Dennis > Francis Ngannou

[Earl1972]

not effective at all which is why most people older than 10 don't do karate

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[Rambone]

I believe it’s pronounced ka-ra-tay

[bhank]

I think we would be remiss not to at least mention Lyoto Machida the man won the UFC belt and have several defenses using a Karate Style. Wins over Belfort, Mousasi, Henderson, Bader, Couture , Shogun, Rashad, Ortiz, Franklin, Sonnen, Penn etc

[Humble Narcissist]

not effective at all which is why most people older than 10 don't do karate

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It has to be modified to be effective, at least Okinawan styles. They leave the head open with no protection at all. Easy knockout for a boxer and easy takedown for a wrestler.

[IroNat]

True karate is a self-defense skill, not a competition sport.

A mugger attacks you and you palm strike his face and side kick his knee, then run away.

Very effective if used like that.

Not good in a cage fight or similar.

Very useful against unskilled attackers.  Only useful against skilled attacks if the practitioner is highly skilled and trained.

Any fighting art that requires constant training to maintain skill is only useful to those willing to invest years in training.

The average person needs a few simple techniques so he can then get away.

[Humble Narcissist]

True karate is a self-defense skill, not a competition sport.

A mugger attacks you and you palm strike his face and side kick his knee, then run away.

Very effective if used like that.

Not good in a cage fight or similar.

All the good techniques were taken out of Karate after WW2. It became exercise for school students.

[IroNat]

All the good techniques were taken out of Karate after WW2. It became exercise for school students.

I took Kyokushin style for a couple years a long time ago.

The instructor told me he could teach me self-defense in five minutes, just poke the eyes.  Simple.

Getting a black belt takes years and requires learning numerous kata which are useless in fights.

The instructor's low kicks and reverse punch was massively powerful.  He was also built like a tank. 

[bhank]

I took Kyokushin style for a couple years a long time ago.

The instructor told me he could teach me self-defense in five minutes, just poke the eyes.  Simple.

Getting a black belt takes years and requires learning numerous kata which are useless in fights.

The instructor's low kicks and reverse punch was massively powerful.  He was also built like a tank.

The problem with that theory is it is almost impossible to strike someone in the eye on purpose it is hard enough just to hit someone in the head an eye poke is like a bullseye not easy

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Karate works you just have to actually be good at it

[Bevo]

I think we would be remiss not to at least mention Lyoto Machida the man won the UFC belt and have several defenses using a Karate Style. Wins over Belfort, Mousasi, Henderson, Bader, Couture , Shogun, Rashad, Ortiz, Franklin, Sonnen, Penn etc

St Pierre comes to mind as well

[Bevo]

I have beaten up a black belt and I got beat up by a black belt so not sure hahaha.  I knew them both and they were always feared by locals cause they were black belts. I couldn’t care less what skills You may have I love to fight more so years ago but still enjoy a throw down here and there. Sometimes I win sometimes I lose. It’s fun either way.

Esfitness would have beaten all three of you at once

[bhank]

He fucking Crane Kicked 3 of Randy Coutures front teeth out

[robcguns]

Esfitness would have beaten all three of you at once

Goes without saying

[IroNat]

The problem with that theory is it is almost impossible to strike someone in the eye on purpose it is hard enough just to hit someone in the head an eye poke is like a bullseye not easy

No, in a self-defense type altercation it's very easy to strike someone's eyes.

Don't confuse self-defense with cage fighting.

Even so they don't allow eyes strikes in mma.

You don't need much accuracy.

Just a slight graze is very painful. 

Sticking your thumbs in someone's eyes is not too hard either.

Requires hardly any training but if trained is very disabling.

Strikes to the eyes are also disorienting which sets up other attacks.

This guy Machado is using mma techniques which include kicks like any other mma fighter.

Karate is kicking and striking to vital areas.