Honestly, how effective is karate?

[robcguns]

No, in a self-defense type altercation it's very easy to strike someone's eyes.

Don't confuse self-defense with cage fighting.

Even so they don't allow eyes strikes in mma.

You don't need much accuracy.

Just a slight graze is very painful. 

Sticking your thumbs in someone's eyes is not too hard either.

Requires hardly any training but if trained is very disabling.

Strikes to the eyes are also disorienting which sets up other attacks.

Want to take out a wrestler?  Just stick your fingers in his eyes when he grabs you.

He'll let go quick.

This guy Machado is using mma techniques which include kicks like any other mma fighter.

Karate is kicking and striking to vital areas.

Like when a dog attacks stick your finger in their asshole.

[IroNat]

Like when a dog attacks stick your finger in their asshole.

Exactly.  Works with cats too.

[ThisisOverload]

My good friend growing up was a black belt. I watched him get his ass kicked many times.

I was always taught to punch people in the throat or a swift kick in the nuts.

Seemed to work pretty well.

No rules on the streets.

I took Muay Thai for 7 years and never once tried to kick someone in a street fight.

No reason to fight at my age anymore.

[IroNat]

My good friend growing up was a black belt. I watched him get his ass kicked many times.

I was always taught to punch people in the throat or a swift kick in the nuts.

Seemed to work pretty well.

No rules on the streets.

I took Muay Thai for 7 years and never once tried to kick someone in a street fight.

No reason to fight at my age anymore.

Punching to the throat or a kick to the balls is true karate.

Karate just means empty-hand, i.e. no weapons besides your body.

They don't teach that in the schools in the usa because people would get hurt and they'd get sued.

Grab a weapon if you can if you have to fight.

[bhank]

No, in a self-defense type altercation it's very easy to strike someone's eyes.

Don't confuse self-defense with cage fighting.

Even so they don't allow eyes strikes in mma.

You don't need much accuracy.

Just a slight graze is very painful. 

Sticking your thumbs in someone's eyes is not too hard either.

Requires hardly any training but if trained is very disabling.

Strikes to the eyes are also disorienting which sets up other attacks.

This guy Machado is using mma techniques which include kicks like any other mma fighter.

Karate is kicking and striking to vital areas.

Again fighters try to eye poke all the time the reason it doesn’t happen more in mma despite being illegal is it is almost I possible to do I even posted a video with the top mma commentator and former fighter explaining that. You will get fucked up trying to scratch a mans eyes out it’s never going to work. Tuck your chin bite down and throw actual punches

[bhank]

My good friend growing up was a black belt. I watched him get his ass kicked many times.

I was always taught to punch people in the throat or a swift kick in the nuts.

Seemed to work pretty well.

No rules on the streets.

I took Muay Thai for 7 years and never once tried to kick someone in a street fight.

No reason to fight at my age anymore.

Again you are never going to manage a throat strike in a fight

[bhank]

Punching to the throat or a kick to the balls is true karate.

Karate just means empty-hand, i.e. no weapons besides your body.

They don't teach that in the schools in the usa because people would get hurt and they'd get sued.

Grab a weapon if you can if you have to fight.

You are going to successfully manage a grone  stroke about as often as a throat punch or eye poke these are almost impossible techniques to land in a real fight against a moving target with their hands up in a fighting stance it’s never going to work. You are also going to puss them off with fighting like a 12 year old girl and seriously get your ass beat

[ThisisOverload]

Again you are never going to manage a throat strike in a fight

Well, i did.

Just because you like to wrestle men doesn't mean a strike is impossible.

[bhank]

Well, i did.

Just because you like to wrestle men doesn't mean a strike is impossible.

A fucking throat strike isn't even going to do jack shit. Most people also tuck their chins. Tuck your chin make a fist and swing for the godamn head it is a larger target and will do more damage. 99% of throat strikes are just missed head strikes

[Dave D]

Well, i did.

Just because you like to wrestle men doesn't mean a strike is impossible.

I bet you did this on concrete too…. 

If Bhank says it can’t be done it’s science. He’s the expert you’re the amateur.

[thebrink]

St Pierre comes to mind as well

Chuck Liddell, St Pierre, Lyoto Machida to name a few...

[Moontrane]

Yeah, most practitioners spend too much time learning new techniques. A person could master 5 good techniques or so and spend the rest of his time on getting faster, stronger, body conditioned for contact, sparring, etc,  and would be much better off. If more karate guys trained like boxers there would be a lot more tough karate guys.

Bruce Lee said that fears less the man who knows 10,000 kicks than the man who's practiced one kick 10,000 times.

[Moontrane]

My good friend growing up was a black belt. I watched him get his ass kicked many times.

I was always taught to punch people in the throat or a swift kick in the nuts.

Seemed to work pretty well.

No rules on the streets.

I took Muay Thai for 7 years and never once tried to kick someone in a street fight.

No reason to fight at my age anymore.

I've had two encounters as an adult and both times ended them with a single snap elbow.  Never needed to kick or knee anybody. 

[Moontrane]

You are a big strong dude they have weight classes for a reason Bruce Lee would get stomped to death by the average Getbigger. In real life dude was 5foot7 and 130-140lbs. Skills are great but you have to have physicality to match it as well.

I think I read this in MMI.

Mike Quinn was part of Vinnie Pazienza’s entourage in the lead up to a bout with Greg Haugen at lightweight – 135 lbs.  There was a scuffle and the 250-lb Quinn tried to intervene.  Haugen hit Quinn with a single body shot, and Quinn was done.

[bhank]

I bet you did this on concrete too…. 

If Bhank says it can’t be done it’s science. He’s the expert you’re the amateur.

I am not the only one I literally posted a video of an actual mma expert explaining it. Despite what your sister taught you scratching the eyes kicking the balls and biting are not effective techniques

[Griffith]

In bareknuckle boxing, head shots were not as common as with gloves.

There was a higher chance boxers could break bones in their hand when hitting harder parts of the head.

[MAXX]

The art of Kha-ra-theh is very effective, VERY. Let me rephrase that, it is THEE most effective art of the martial combats.

[pamith]

Tbh Karate is worthless

[Darren Avey]

I think I read this in MMI.

Mike Quinn was part of Vinnie Pazienza’s entourage in the lead up to a bout with Greg Haugen at lightweight – 135 lbs.  There was a scuffle and the 250-lb Quinn tried to intervene.  Haugen hit Quinn with a single body shot, and Quinn was done.

This must be lies.
It's impossible to hurt a bodybuilder

[falco]

[IroNat]

I've had two encounters as an adult and both times ended them with a single snap elbow.  Never needed to kick or knee anybody. 

No, you must be mistaken, that would never work.  Bhanky says so.

[Humble Narcissist]

Bruce Lee said that fears less the man who knows 10,000 kicks than the man who's practiced one kick 10,000 times.

He was a silly Chinaman but he was right about that.

[Humble Narcissist]

I took Kyokushin style for a couple years a long time ago.

The instructor told me he could teach me self-defense in five minutes, just poke the eyes.  Simple.

Getting a black belt takes years and requires learning numerous kata which are useless in fights.

The instructor's low kicks and reverse punch was massively powerful.  He was also built like a tank.

Kyokushin is a tough style. Mas Oyama was a beast. So is Dolph Lundgren.

[bhank]

The art of Kha-ra-theh is very effective, VERY. Let me rephrase that, it is THEE most effective art of the martial combats.

Again Randy Couture was Knocked out and retired from the UFC when Lyoto Machido kicked out 3 of his front teeth with get this a godamn crane kick

[Matt]

This must be lies.
It's impossible to hurt a bodybuilder

I thought that said Mike O'Hearn for a second, who has said he has trained Judo at a high level. I have no idea if that is true though.

Do you remember this Mike Quinn interview?:

T-Nation: When was the last time you really lost your temper or had any type of physical altercation?

MQ: It was last November. This asshole — who turned out to be a little juiced-up bodybuilder — thought my wife stole his parking spot at Home Depot and started threatening her. She was scared so she called me. I was twenty-five minutes away so I told her to block his car in so he couldn’t leave.

By the time I got there he'd gone into a GNC store that was next to Home Depot. I threw that piece of shit around like a rag doll. I put him through every display in there. But I’m 42 years old now. I tore a couple of ligaments in my shoulder tossing that dirtbag around.

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