cutler describes his cycles

[Rambone]

Dude I was baffled when I saw that. I'm sure it was a simple oversight by the Committee.

This is your year!

 

[ThisisOverload]

It all comes down to these guys wanting to be "special". 
Jay used far more than he admits to in this video.

Exactly!

They want us to believe they are these super human genetic freaks.

Claiming he gained 50 pounds off 1cc of Sust per week.

Come the fuck on.

It's like the guys from the 70's-80's who only took 10mg of Dbol and a "little deca/primo here and there".

All bullshit.

And i completely understand why they do it, but it's still annoying.

Then they sell snake oil claiming that's where they got the muscles.

[Coach is Back!]

I didn't listen to the video but I would say most of his gear was UGL. Look at the dates, when he was at his peak. The human grade era was in the 90s and earlier. I would go as far as to say he was as good as he was at his peak thanks to UGL - there was no HG Tren or Masteron and so on.

There was finaplex which he mentioned

[ThisisOverload]

From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.

This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.

I know for a fact that an UGL up near Fort Worth was selling AAS to several Pro's 10 years ago. A good friend of mine knew the source personally and i actually met him and saw his "lab". It was a very legit setup and his gear was not cheap.

The high level guys who get busted almost always have UGL gear.

I do believe they would prefer HG gear, but that shit is expensive and very few BBer's have that kind of money. Just the cost of GH is insane, unless you get the generic Chinese stuff.

With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.

[TheShape.]

From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.

This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.

I know for a fact that an UGL up near Fort Worth was selling AAS to several Pro's 10 years ago. A good friend of mine knew the source personally and i actually met him and saw his "lab". It was a very legit setup and his gear was not cheap.

The high level guys who get busted almost always have UGL gear.

I do believe they would prefer HG gear, but that shit is expensive and very few BBer's have that kind of money. Just the cost of GH is insane, unless you get the generic Chinese stuff.

With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.

Just a 1/2 cc of test a week now though bro, that’s if he remembers!

[ThisisOverload]

Just a 1/2 cc of test a week now though bro, that’s if he remembers!

Haha yes!

Just a CC or two here and there for 8-12 weeks.

Maybe a little Slin for a few weeks before a show.

It's the full NitroTech and CellTech "stack" for maximum gains. Over 347% more effective than other "stacks".

Might throw some L-Carnitine and L-Arginine if you REALLY want to grow!

Obviously he's not in it for the money and just wants to share the best method to maximize "gains".

Such a nice guy Jay is!

[LurkerNoMore]

Interesting. Maybe that explains the influx of pros down here in the past few years. And by shitty pros you mean guys like Kenny Jones, correct? 

Oh God.... Kenny Jones.  That nasal voice gimp shrimp.   I wonder whatever happened to him.  He used to train at Golds on Commercial and got kicked out and then started leading a morning sunrise yoga class on the beach every morning about 5:30am until the sun came up while running a painting, handyman, carpet cleaning business in between his muscle worshipping sessions.

[LurkerNoMore]

That only makes sense and I concluded the same a long time ago. I think the raws are Chinese no matter what they claim, it's just that the products are put together by someone a little step above bathtub brewer. But same shit basically, UG raws.

I know the various test esters, nandrolones, and tablets (anadrol, anavar, halotestin, dbol and winstrol) are made directly in his compounding pharmacy business.  I am not sure about the other non medical use compounds like tren, masteron, primo, etc... but I do know his compounding business supplies the packaging and inserts for all the compounds that gets sold on the side.

My buddy just got a few things in from him.  When I meet up with him tonight, I will take a photo of some of his shit and post it.  The packaging vials are as slick and professional as anything a domestic HG company puts out.

[Bevo]

From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.

This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.

I know for a fact that an UGL up near Fort Worth was selling AAS to several Pro's 10 years ago. A good friend of mine knew the source personally and i actually met him and saw his "lab". It was a very legit setup and his gear was not cheap.

The high level guys who get busted almost always have UGL gear.

I do believe they would prefer HG gear, but that shit is expensive and very few BBer's have that kind of money. Just the cost of GH is insane, unless you get the generic Chinese stuff.

With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.

Maybe we should ask Kerry, she would know, I’m sure she was injecting him and wiping his ass for all we know

[Van_Bilderass]

I know the various test esters, nandrolones, and tablets (anadrol, anavar, halotestin, dbol and winstrol) are made directly in his compounding pharmacy business.  I am not sure about the other non medical use compounds like tren, masteron, primo, etc... but I do know his compounding business supplies the packaging and inserts for all the compounds that gets sold on the side.

You mean they synthesize the hormone itself in the pharmacy? Although I don't how hormones are made exactly and what is involved I very much doubt steroid hormones are made in any large quantity in the US by compounding pharmacies. Everyone would've heard about it by now but not a peep ever anywhere about it in the last 20 years. It's all Chinese. Does India make steroid raws nowadays?

[Rambone]

Oh God.... Kenny Jones.  That nasal voice gimp shrimp.   I wonder whatever happened to him.  He used to train at Golds on Commercial and got kicked out and then started leading a morning sunrise yoga class on the beach every morning about 5:30am until the sun came up while running a painting, handyman, carpet cleaning business in between his muscle worshipping sessions.

He then went to World Gym north of Sunrise to complain the ceiling fans and how it was too cold in the gym where he might tear his biceps. What a nut

[Taffin]

Rambone has been killing it for years.

This

[LurkerNoMore]

You mean they synthesize the hormone itself in the pharmacy? Although I don't how hormones are made exactly and what is involved I very much doubt steroid hormones are made in any large quantity in the US by compounding pharmacies. Everyone would've heard about it by now but not a peep ever anywhere about it in the last 20 years. It's all Chinese. Does India make steroid raws nowadays?

I mean they make the finished products, test cypionate, enanthate, propionate, etc..   not make the actual powders.

[Rambone]

I mean they make the finished products, test cypionate, enanthate, propionate, etc..   not make the actual powders.

I wonder if there’s any purity testing to make sure the orientals aren’t killing us. We can’t have any more fallen brothers this year. Enough is enough

This

Brotal if true

[Taffin]

From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.

This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.

With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.

And Ray.

Ray knows too... trust me...

[G_Thang]

Maybe we should ask Kerry, she would know, I’m sure she was injecting him and wiping his ass for all we know

At least she wasn't picking hairs off of his back with tweezers.

[Never1AShow]

It should all be OTC at this point.  For cripes sake high grade weed is

[bhank]

Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.

[Gym-Rat]

Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.

I think there is something to 'receptors' and how one responds genetically to gear.
some twinks out there take grams of gear a week and look the same (like a twink).
some people (like nick walker) can look at a vile and blow the fuck-up.
sure he works very hard, but 5'7" and 300-lbs, he just responds

[Van_Bilderass]

Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.

You know they are higher than that. I mean I mostly agree with what you're saying, after a certain dosage increased dosages don't add much. But all the mass monsters are higher than that. At least double that and up.

[BB]

Does India make steroid raws nowadays?

The only raws I've seen legitimately from Indian pharmaceutical suppliers are Testosterones and Deca, and they usually want to deal in big quantities. Some others offer other things, but they're usually acting as middle men for Chinese firms.

[ThisisOverload]

Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.

Oh fuck off.

[LurkerNoMore]

Forgot to post the pictures yesterday

[nerdoldnerdith]

It should come as no surprise that the bodybuilders who came out of the sport healthy are also the ones whose bodies respond well to moderate doses of gear. Jay Cutler just has good genetics for bodybuilding and doesn't need to rely on extreme amounts of drugs to do well.

[avxo]

There’s also a hidden button for “defrost” and a warning light to get the water filter replaced.