After lifting for 40 years, lifting at age 65 pretty much sucks

[wes]

you guys have no clue hes experiencing oxidation exhaustion. Up the good fats

Are you in your 60`s....no, that means you have no clue....you quit in your prime bro.

[Taffin]

Huh? Why do women your own age do that? I'd think at 65, you'd be getting interest from women ages 40-80 or thereabouts.

PS - aging sucks. I have a date next week. I'm hoping my dick still moves, and I'm 40. But our brains are expectation machines. Our minds drive our bodies, and our bodies drive our minds.

Matt - let me plant a mind-worm

When you fuck her next week - and you are going to fuck her, make no mistake - I hereby guarantee that at some point while you are inside her you will flash back to this thread and just for a split second think of the word "GetBig"...

The power of suggestion, my young friend...

[GymnJuice]

Get a 25 year old girlfriend and a Corvette! (You will feel much better)

 

[Virgil]

I'm 65, been lifting since 1974, luckily I didn't fuck myself up by doing years of heavy squats, dead or benchs. I switched to a combination of calisthenics and lighter weights in my early 50s, it really helped, I highly recommend  it.  No hrt,trt,juice or growth hormone...don't need it (yet).  I've been watching alot of training videos by a guy named Mike Van Wyck, he's a big proponent of bringing that weight down and using better form. I wish my younger self could have trained like that..but I think every young muscle head back in the day was convinced that More weight on the bar is better.

[funk51]

I remember those videos of judochoke inclining 275 for reps on muscle beach from a few years ago. good to see he's back on and doing alright.

[youandme]

How can you even survive on less than 500 mg/week? You know, just TRT dose.

Lol

What’s funny is the craziness of the whole cruise with trt at 250-500/week.

We used to think about the idea of bridging in between cycles on low dose primo or low dose dbol in the morning.

[muscle matters]

I’m 41 years old, I just won my IFBB pro card after over 26 years of training.

[IroNat]

I’m 41 years old, I just won my IFBB pro card after over 26 years of training.

Awesome, MM.

Training for strength and health is a lifestyle to practice.

[muscle matters]

Awesome, MM.

Training for strength and health is a lifestyle to practice.

It absolutely is!!

[Gym-Rat]

I'm 65, been lifting since 1974, luckily I didn't fuck myself up by doing years of heavy squats, dead or benchs. I switched to a combination of calisthenics and lighter weights in my early 50s, it really helped, I highly recommend  it.  No hrt,trt,juice or growth hormone...don't need it (yet).  I've been watching alot of training videos by a guy named Mike Van Wyck, he's a big proponent of bringing that weight down and using better form. I wish my younger self could have trained like that..but I think every young muscle head back in the day was convinced that More weight on the bar is better.

Very coo Virgil, glad to hear you're still at it these days!

[Virgil]

Thanks Gym Rat, my shit is surprisingly high and tight, my 65 year old physique is better than my 30,40 or 50 year build. I know there's going to be a time when I start regressing, but it hasn't happened  yet.  To all you younger  guys, yes you can definitely  improve as you get into your 50s and 60s.  I think being juice free really comes into place as you age, its like you're not depleting your reserves. I see guys that were juiced in there 20s and 30s looking less than optimal as they hit their 50s and60s even with trt

[robcguns]

I remember those videos of judochoke inclining 275 for reps on muscle beach from a few years ago. good to see he's back on and doing alright.

Yes good vids but I remember them being 315.

[funk51]

Yes good vids but I remember them being 315.

  maybe, I'm thinking of a later video when he was older.

[Marty Champions]

Are you in your 60`....no, that mean you have no clue....you quit in your prime bro.

i never quit 'working' but sure u could say i scaled back workouts from 2 hours a day to maybe a 2 set workouts. I quit dieting however i always strive to be better. As we age antoxidant deficiencies grow exponentially wouldnt you agree

You cant just push hard if you dont have 'it' so im telling u its the good fats antioxidants that give you 'it'

[Dave D]

i never quit 'smokin' but sure u could say i scaled back workouts from 2 hours a day to maybe 2 set a month workouts. I quit dieting and steroids however i always strive to be higher. As we age antoxidant deficiencies grow exponentially wouldnt you agree

You cant just push hard if you dont have 'it' so im telling u its the good fats antioxidants and stay off meth.

Fixed

[Griffith]

Good to know I could still have about 20 good years left for training.

On the plus side, libido is still great and everything still functioning good at basically 40, actually even better than 10 years ago for some reason.

[backday]

No dead yet but over 70 years old; lifting sence 1966.
Down here a deadlift in my 70 anniversary.

[Gym-Rat]

No dead yet but over 70 years old; lifting sence 1966.
Down here a deadlift in my 70 anniversary.

Great lift man!! 

[IroNat]

No dead yet but over 70 years old; lifting sence 1966.
Down here a deadlift in my 70 anniversary.

Awesome, bro.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Nothing a 2 week trip to Ibiza, Spain can't fix for a sad 65 year old.  Go there, party hard, fuck hard and live life.

[wes]

No dead yet but over 70 years old; lifting sence 1966.
Down here a deadlift in my 70 anniversary.

Backday my old friend it`s so good to see you here again brother.

You look great and are as strong as a bull.

[loco]

Protein Consumption and the Elderly: What Is the Optimal Level of Intake?
Maintaining independence, quality of life, and health is crucial for elderly adults. One of the major threats to living independently is the loss of muscle mass, strength, and function that progressively occurs with aging, known as sarcopenia. Several studies have identified protein (especially the essential amino acids) as a key nutrient for muscle health in elderly adults. Elderly adults are less responsive to the anabolic stimulus of low doses of amino acid intake compared to younger individuals.

However, this lack of responsiveness in healthy older adults can usually be overcome with higher levels of essential amino acid (EAA) consumption.

The addition of nonessential amino acids to a supplement containing EAA does not result in additional stimulation of muscle protein synthesis [27], indicating that the quality of the protein, or its amino acid profile, is a key determinant of the functional potential of protein in muscle health. This is supported by several studies demonstrating that the ingestion of milk proteins, compared with the ingestion of soy protein stimulates muscle protein synthesis to a greater extent after resistance exercise, owing to the higher content of EAA in milk protein [28,29,30,31]. The data from the Health, Aging and Body Composition study support these findings [31], showing that intake of animal protein (with greater content of EAA), but not plant protein, was significantly associated with the preservation of lean body mass over three years in older adults.

The discrepancies in quality between animal and plant protein sources go beyond the amino acid profiles. When the energy content of the protein source is accounted for, the caloric intake needed to meet the EAA requirements from plant sources of protein is considerably higher than the caloric intake from animal sources of protein [36]. This is important to consider since obesity, especially with aging, is a major public health concern. Obesity is the most predominant factor limiting mobility in the elderly.

The consumption of dietary protein consistent with the upper end of the AMDRs (as much as 30%–35% of total caloric intake) may prove to be beneficial, although practical limitations may make this level of dietary protein intake difficult. The consumption of high-quality proteins that are easily digestible and contain a high proportion of EAAs lessens the urgency of consuming diets with an extremely high protein content.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4924200/


Personalizing Protein Nourishment
Within a food source, other components alter the overall digestibility of the proteins. Some plant foods contain anti-nutritional factors that decrease protein digestibility. Legumes, cereals, potatoes and tomatoes contain inhibitors that reduce protein digestibility by blocking trypsin, pepsin and other gut proteases (Savelkoul et al., 1992; Liener, 1994; Friedman and Brandon, 2001). Cereal grains and legume seeds contain tannins (polyphenols) that bind strongly to dietary proteins and digestive enzymes, thus inhibiting protein digestion (Jansman, 1993; Jansman et al., 1994). Nuts, seeds and grains contain phytic acid (Lott et al., 2002), which chelates minerals such as calcium and zinc. As these minerals are necessary cofactors for digestive enzymes (e.g., alkaline phosphatase, carboxypeptidases and aminopeptidases), phytic acid in foods reduces overall protein digestibility (Ryden and Selvendran, 1993). Many legumes and alliums contain saponins, which form part of the plant’s defense system (Francis et al., 2002). These saponins reduce protein digestibility by forming saponin-protein complexes (Potter et al., 1993). Likewise, many plant proteins are surrounded by complex carbohydrates (non-starch polysaccharides or fiber)—often as cell wall components—that can impede enzyme access to the proteins (Duodu et al., 2003). The abundance of anti-nutritional factors and complex carbohydrates in plant protein sources likely explains their overall lower digestibility than that of typical animal proteins.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927412/


Even vegan doctors who preach eating very low protein for better health and longevity recommend adults age 65 and older increase their protein intake.

[backday]

Backday my old friend it`s so good to see you here again brother.

You look great and are as strong as a bull.

What`s up Wes!Thanks man, good to see you too. I heard you are training hard
again and making good progress

[wes]

What`s up Wes!Thanks man, good to see you too. I heard you are training hard
again and making good progress

I`m training 6 days a week and will enter the Masters Nationals again next year.....I feel like I`m twenty one again. 

Keep training hard, and keep posting here you are a great member of the board with a lot of knowledge.

All the best to you brother.

[Hulkotron]

No dead yet but over 70 years old; lifting sence 1966.
Down here a deadlift in my 70 anniversary.

Great job man, that's super-impressive!  Looks like ~500 lbs or so?  I'm about half your age and would struggle to roll that across the floor let alone pick it up.