Agreed. In my mind, there’s a big difference between unknowingly selling some fentanyl-laced drug vs knowingly manufacturing and selling some fentanyl-laced drugs as clean and legit. The law doesn’t agree, but that’s just part of our draconian legal system.
I think this is an important distinction.
Like when I bought my gear last month, I knew it was underground gear. I knew the risks. Neither myself nor the person who sold them to me knew that the gear was prop-heavy until multiple people reported pain at the injection site.
I guess it's hard to find good chemists.
This is Sustanon 250 I'm using, but I'm only 750mg in so far, so I haven't started a new cycle thread.
IMO, the chemist probably knew using more prop could cause this problem, but took his chances.
I have no hard feelings. I was offered a refund, but said no.
I would argue that the dealer shouldn't sell anything as real unless he is pretty damn sure.
So I could also argue:
If De Niro's grandson Leandro's dealer felt there was ANY chance there was Fentanyl in the pills...he should have passed that information in to Leandro.
IMO, the ONLY way to know for sure you're getting real opiates is if you buy straight from a person's prescription.
So if the dealer wasn't doing that, it should have been made known to Leandro that he wasn't 100% certain it was a legit opiate, and that there is some chance it contains Fentanyl.
If the dealer knew and purposely said nothing, I would say Leandro's dealer was accountable in his death, to some extent.
If the dealer had no idea, I would feel he is not as responsible, HOWEVER - I would also argue that dealers are responsible for sourcing out actual drugs that are what they say - and not laced with other drugs that can literally kill them on the spot, in a way not unexpected.
Sure, you can die from Vicodin [I think Vicodine contains 10mg Hydrocodone + 300mg Acetaminophen - which is a actually more organ toxic than the actual opiates/opioids alone, funnily enough] - but you'd have to take a LOT.
You would actually be around the toxic level of Tylenol [Acetaminophen] from the Vicodin by the time you reach the overdose level of Hydrocodone.
Meanwhile, didn't it only take three fentanyl-laced Vicodin pills to kill Prince? Something like that.
I'm rambling, but my main points are:
[1] Dealers have some ethical responsibility to source out drugs that won't make people drop dead, unless used in a way that the normal drug would make them drop dead. No one expects to die taking three Vicodone pills [they don't have these in Canada], so producing fakes that DO kill people taking three is immoral UNLESS that information is passed on to the consumer.
[2] I think it's worse if the dealer knew the pills were laced and didn't pass that information to Leandro, as opposed to not knowing and not saying...HOWEVER...I still feel dealers should put some effort into ensuring they aren't selling toxic poison.
And another point: [3] Gym Rat [and I believe B. Hank said this too] is correct that almost EVERY opiate - every drug, period, even street marijuana sold after hours - contains / may contain Fentanyl. So as time goes on, the user simply has to understand and accept this.
Heck - AN ENTIRE MOVIE WAS MADE ABOUT THIS IN 2019!
Sorry for rambling - toxic drugs are a HUGE problem in my city. As is Fentanyl - Fentanyl killed my friend's half-brother in 2021, and a friend I had a falling-out with over the fake pandemic, who died last year. And many, many others here.