TRT in the US ?

[Gym Rat]

Sample stack of a young guy making his pro debut soon:

1000mg Test Cyp weekly - UGL
500mg Primo E weekly - UGL
300mg NPP weekly - UGL
4.5 IU HGH daily - split morning, pre-workout, night - generic
6iu Novolog - pre and post workout - prescribed
20iu Novolin N - last meal - prescribed
80mg Telmisartan daily - prescribed
20mg Nolvadex daily - split morning and night - prescribed
12.5mg Aromasin daily - prescribed
50mg Proviron daily - UGL

Thats a lot of drugs...

On real TRT you get bloods done a few times a year, all of my numbers are always perfect (no thick blood, etc)...

[Gym Rat]

Forty-year-old “kid”?

One can acquire hypogonadism at any adult age. TRT is taken for hypogonadism regardless of age.

You’re not a physician, let alone one that specializes in andrology.

TRT under a Dr is indeed quite safe...

[oldtimer1]

Forty-year-old “kid”?

One can acquire hypogonadism at any adult age. TRT is taken for hypogonadism regardless of age.

You’re not a physician, let alone one that specializes in andrology.

Yes, a forty year old is a young man. You should be able to do 90-95% of your physical best in VO2 max and strength at 40. Not so much in your 60's. The overwhelming majority of guys that fall below 300 ng/dl are aging males.  That rule goes out the window for steroid users.

[BigRo]

Sample stack of a young guy making his pro debut soon:

1000mg Test Cyp weekly - UGL
500mg Primo E weekly - UGL
300mg NPP weekly - UGL
4.5 IU HGH daily - split morning, pre-workout, night - generic
6iu Novolog - pre and post workout - prescribed
20iu Novolin N - last meal - prescribed
80mg Telmisartan daily - prescribed
20mg Nolvadex daily - split morning and night - prescribed
12.5mg Aromasin daily - prescribed
50mg Proviron daily - UGL

Thats a lot of drugs...

On real TRT you get bloods done a few times a year, all of my numbers are always perfect (no thick blood, etc)...

It is quite reasonable I think, not over the top. Yes its alot of drugs but his total mg's is under 2gms and the GH and slin are not excessive.

[Rambone]

Not everybody is the same. I have a grade 3 vericocele and SHBG at 90 which in turn puts my free test at around where a 60 year old would be although my total test was always 800-900 ng/dl. Had surgery on the vericocele. The surgery didn’t work, so I decided to do something about it although I’m still a kid at 39   

[oldtimer1]

It is quite reasonable I think, not over the top. Yes its alot of drugs but his total mg's is under 2gms and the GH and slin are not excessive.

How much does that cost per month?  No clue but I bet it's a lot.

[Rambone]

Here’s me. After my first injection, my mustache finally came in and these glasses arrived in the mail from an anonymous sender. I’d like to think MM is looking down on me, and I have tributed my entire life to him

[BigRo]

I dont think it would be very expensive because the GH is generic. I don't use GH, or slin.

I get a bottle of test here for 38 dollars.

[Gym Rat]

It is quite reasonable I think, not over the top. Yes its alot of drugs but his total mg's is under 2gms and the GH and slin are not excessive.

Looks like a ton to me, but I never got into that side of things, so I dont know... Like I mentioned earlier, when I tried 200 mg of Test for my TRT, I was anxious as hell.
Hands shaky, etc...
Really felt bad. It went away in like a week or 2 of moving back down and esters clearing... Some obviously can  handle this stuff better than others...

Like when I drank booze, I could do a 10-pack of Vodka nips, 6 beers and barely have a buzz (After 40 years of practice). Others would be hammered...

[wes]

I never take any offense by what you write. Is every man "sick" because they are not at the testosterone level they were at when they were 25?  I know many that have supplemented through the years for bodybuilding have permanently lowered testosterone. I guess they truly need TRT.  If they didn't they would be singing soprano playing with their man boobs and getting emotional watching Hallmark movies. Just having fun with the last line. Hope all is well with you Wes and your family. I know I shouldn't post on the site because my anti steroid stance angers users. I mean no offense.

You  funny bastid!  LOL 

It doesn`t anger me at all.........to each his own.

I`m, going through a bit of a physical  problem,but it seems to be clearing up....thank God.

I  have never had any problems regaining my natural Test levels after coming off........never did PCT, or had gyno.....but that`s just me.

All the best bud

[BigRo]

Looks like a ton to me, but I never got into that side of things, so I dont know... Like I mentioned earlier, when I tried 200 mg of Test for my TRT, I was anxious as hell.
Hands shaky, etc...
Really felt bad. It went away in like a week or 2 of moving back down and esters clearing... Some obviously can  handle this stuff better than others...

Like when I drank booze, I could do a 10-pack of Vodka nips, 6 beers and barely have a buzz (After 40 years of practice). Others would be hammered...

I would be hammered.

200mg test is a zen zone for me.

[BigRo]

You  funny bastid!  LOL 

It doesn`t anger me at all.........to each his own.

I`m, going through a bit of a physical  problem,but it seems to be clearing up....thank God.

I  have never had any problems regaining my natural Test levels after coming off........never did PCT, or had gyno.....but that`s just me.

All the best bud

You could come off and recover even at your sparkly young age???

[wes]

You could come off and recover even at your sparkly young age???

So far,I always have,

I never use gigantic amounts but rather build up to a fairly high dosage for a few  weeks during prep and than taper slowly down.

Another thing I  have rarely done which I am presently doing is an off-season cycle and putting on pretty good size.

I always dd  way too many contests in a row........did 5 one time and 7 on another occasion.......hard to hold condition after a time, and forget about adding lots of size, though I  do ALWAYS get bigger during  a prep  probably because I am more focused.

[BigRo]

Your some buck Wes. What is your off season cycle looking like if you don't mind me asking?

[wes]

Your some buck Wes. What is your off season cycle looking like if you don't mind me asking?

Right now Ro,I am Running 200 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week,150mgs.Equipoise,2 X a week,and 50 mgs. of D-Bol daily.

I may decrease the D-Bol to  25 mgs.

I have increases all macros and food intake and only train 4 X a week as opposed to  my usual 6 X a week.

In the past I would just do 500  mgs. of any kind of Test I could get or train clean for a while.........back then I was a big believer in cycling on and off.

I have done contests using only Sustanon as I ran out of gear, but my diet  was so strict and stringent that I placed top 3-5 anyway.

People make fun of me for joining gh15`s board,I wasn`t his pal,I went there to learn........I got in my best shape ever at 57 years old just by listening to guys over there.........not gh15 in particular.......he  was just a guy trying to hustle people for gear.

Any suggestions RO ?

[BigRo]

Right now Ro,I am Running 200 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week,150mgs.Equipoise,2 X a week,and 50 mgs. of D-Bol daily.

I may decrease the D-Bol to  25 mgs.

I have increases all macros and food intake and only train 4 X a week as opposed to  my usual 6 X a week.

In the past I would just do 500  mgs. of any kind of Test I could get or train clean for a while.........back then I was a big believer in cycling on and off.

I have done contests using only Sustanon as I ran out of gear, but my diet  was so strict and stringent that I placed top 3-5 anyway.

People make fun of me for joining gh15`s board,I wasn`t his pal,I went there to learn........I got in my best shape ever at 57 years old just by listening to guys over there.........not gh15 in particular.......he  was just a guy trying to hustle people for gear.

Any suggestions RO ?

Sounds like a good stack, Dbol is the best feel good steroid. No deca in there to lube the joints?

[robcguns]

Right now Ro,I am Running 200 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week,150mgs.Equipoise,2 X a week,and 50 mgs. of D-Bol daily.

I may decrease the D-Bol to  25 mgs.

I have increases all macros and food intake and only train 4 X a week as opposed to  my usual 6 X a week.

In the past I would just do 500  mgs. of any kind of Test I could get or train clean for a while.........back then I was a big believer in cycling on and off.

I have done contests using only Sustanon as I ran out of gear, but my diet  was so strict and stringent that I placed top 3-5 anyway.

People make fun of me for joining gh15`s board,I wasn`t his pal,I went there to learn........I got in my best shape ever at 57 years old just by listening to guys over there.........not gh15 in particular.......he  was just a guy trying to hustle people for gear.

Any suggestions RO ?

So 400 test,300 eq and 350 dbol a week? Is that right? You must be blowing the fuck up.

[wes]

Sounds like a good stack, Dbol is the best feel good steroid. No deca in there to lube the joints?

I know,I did order some but my guy didn`t have any,so I opted for Equipoise.

I have to put in another order soon,so hopefully I can score some then.

When contest time rolls around I`ll be getting Masteron and I`ll do some Halo for 2-3  weeks time right before the contest.........I already have Tren which I will use to a minimum,lots of D-Bol And Anadrol 50 for this winter (soon).

Thanks 

[wes]

So 400 test,300 eq and 350 dbol a week? Is that right? You must be blowing the fuck up.

Rob,the heaviest I have ever been bulking,and you know I`m a small guy  was 188 a few tears back, and I looked bloofy........now I have been up to 193 with the top two rows of abs showing and plenty of vascularity.

I have recently dropped to 185 and look and feel better at this weight......I have plenty of time before the show.

After my Lung Cancer  and eating  crappy  and doing absoulutely nothing for 5 years,I could only do 5 hard pushups......I`ve come a long way and I feel I`m just getting started.

I`m not huge,but I`m one handsome bastard!  LOL 

[BigRo]

I know,I did order some but my guy didn`t have any,so I opted for Equipoise.

I have to put in another order soon,so hopefully I can score some then.

When contest time rolls around I`ll be getting Masteron and I`ll some Halo for 2-3  weeks time.........I already have Tren which I will use to a minimum,lots of D-Bol And Anadrol 50 for this winter (soon).

Thanks 

You have the constitution of a horse 

[wes]

You have the constitution of a horse 

I  will say this...I`m hard to kill.   

[wes]

Sounds like a good stack, Dbol is the best feel good steroid. No deca in there to lube the joints?

D-Bol and Test always give me a feeling of well being........on the other hand Tren and Halo make me crazy.

[BigRo]

I  will say this...I`m hard to kill.   

Haha fucking right sir.

[deadz]

Everyone's different, but I got on legit TRT when I turned 50 and my levels sunk from age 40 to age 50 (from 717 down to 253 total) from normal aging and statin use.
Statins kill test levels, test is made in our Cholesterol.

I started at 100 mg a week (he just wanted me to pin it once a week) over time I went up to 125 mg. (.5 cc) but I pin it twice a week to avoid the trough/dip.
So on MON and THU I just pin .25 cc with a tiny slin-pin, into my thigh. Easy/painless and that little brings me back up to around 700 (high-normal).

So at age 57, Im now where I was naturally when I was 40 (pre-statins and of course aging). I tried 200 mg once for a month, did not like it, a bit anxious/shaky for some reason...
Not sure how people can run  high-hormones (maybe they dont get the sides). I felt shitty as fuck at 200 mg...

Been on no less than 500mg for the past 16 yrs. Feel good. Just had my second ct scan, calcium score was 0. Echocardiogram done cardiologist didn’t have any negative comments. Labs done 3x’s a year, no issues there. I take 0 meds.

[wes]

Been on no less than 500mg for the past 16 yrs. Feel good. Just had my second ct scan, calcium score was 0. Echocardiogram done cardiologist didn’t have any negative comments. Labs done 3x’s a year, no issues there. I take 0 meds.

Test Is Best !!