TRT in the US ?

[IroNat]

Relax.

Don't mess with Nappy.

[The Keto Kid]

What is your point?

You're on drugs and your levels reflect it.

Test levels fluctuate widely over the course of a day.

My point was on a low fat, high protein, high carb diet..my test levels were consistently around 900 mark, been strict carnivore over a year and a half, I've changed nothing at all dose wise, and my levels have increased dramatically.

[kevin25]

Anarchy in the UK! 

[BigRo]

Got my labs back today, my doctor orders labs every 6 months and at my request if want labs done any time, anyway since going carnivore the last labs prior were in the 1200 range, this is the current test. I've been with this doctor for 3 years now, all my prior labs I was in the 900-1000 range, only thing I changed is my diet. Oh and this was taken 4 days post any injection, you want to try to get an accurate result and if you pin too close to testing day you're results will be off.

what is your weekly mgs?

[dj181]

Who’s “they”?

"they" are @ 1:44

[IroNat]

My point was on a low fat, high protein, high carb diet..my test levels were consistently around 900 mark, been strict carnivore over a year and a half, I've changed nothing at all dose wise, and my levels have increased dramatically.

I thought that might have been your point.

[The Keto Kid]

what is your weekly mgs?

Doctor prescribed 200mg test cyp, 1mg arimidex, 50 units hcg(25 iu twice a week)

[dj181]

Doctor prescribed 200mg test cyp, 1mg arimidex, 50 units hcg(25 iu twice a week)

200 per week?

[BigRo]

Doctor prescribed 200mg test cyp, 1mg arimidex, 50 units hcg(25 iu twice a week)

I am sure you know that your levels are supraphysiological. Is a trt doc not suppose to keep one within the reference range?

[The Keto Kid]

200 per week?

Yes

I am sure you know that your levels are supraphysiological. Is a trt doc not suppose to keep one within the reference range?

He's still keeping my dose the same he called me yesterday after the results came in and asked if I was still on carnivore,  I told him yes, he's been suggesting to his patients to adhere to a carnivore or at least an animal based nutrition protocol due to my past 2 labs, everything is in range, my labs are the best of his patients (fasting glucose, hemoglobin, tsh, ast, alt, psa, triglycerides, total cholesterol etc)  so he hasn't lowered my dose, but technically he should yes.

[joswift]

Yes
He's still keeping my dose the same he called me yesterday after the results came in and asked if I was still on carnivore,  I told him yes, he's been suggesting to his patients to adhere to a carnivore or at least an animal based nutrition protocol due to my past 2 labs, everything is in range, my labs are the best of his patients (fasting glucose, hemoglobin, tsh, ast, alt, psa, triglycerides, total cholesterol etc)  so he hasn't lowered my dose, but technically he should yes.

I take it you pay this guy?

[dj181]

I am sure you know that your levels are supraphysiological. Is a trt doc not suppose to keep one within the reference range?

Some reference ranges top out at 1200 most top out at 850-900

[The Keto Kid]

I take it you pay this guy?

$200 a month

Some reference ranges top out at 1200 most top out at 850-900

The range here tops out at 1200

[dj181]

$200 a month
The range here tops out at 1200

Exactly great arms brosef

[The Keto Kid]

Exactly great arms brosef

Thanks man💪💯

[joswift]

$200 a month
The range here tops out at 1200

So he will just keep prescribing as long as you keep paying

He doesnt care about your long term health, he just wants a nice house and car

Legit TRT is 125mgs a week tops and if your test levels go past whats considered normal they will reduce the dose

[The Keto Kid]

So he will just keep prescribing as long as you keep paying

He doesnt care about your long term health, he just wants a nice house and car

Legit TRT is 125mgs a week tops and if your test levels go past whats considered normal they will reduce the dose

Everything is in range, hemoglobin, hematocrit, psa, total cholesterol, ldl, hdl, ast, alt, estradiol, BP 110/70. So he's keeping my dose as is, I've never had to donate blood. Everything is on point, hormone clinics are designed to optimize hormone levels not just put you in range, a general practitioner prescribed trt would be more what you're referring to, they prescribe just enough to put you in range, which is usually covered by insurance. Hrt clinics there's no insurance that will cover, which is why it's much more expensive and obviously you pay out of pocket.

[joswift]

Everything is in range, hemoglobin, hematocrit, psa, total cholesterol, ldl, hdl, ast, alt, estradiol, BP 110/70. So he's keeping my dose as is, I've never had to donate blood. Everything is on point, hormone clinics are designed to optimize hormone levels not just put you in range, a general practitioner prescribed trt would be more what you're referring to, they prescribe just enough to put you in range, which is usually covered by insurance. Hrt clinics there's no insurance that will cover, which is why it's much more expensive and obviously you pay out of pocket.

So its basically buying gear legally?

[The Keto Kid]

So its basically buying gear legally?

Pharmacy grade test/arimidex/hcg legally and responsibly.In these hormone clinics if your numbers are out of range especially hemoglobin/hematocrit they'll send you immediately to donate blood and most likely if it's a continuous thing on your labs, they'll lower you dose, just like when I first started at this clinic,  they tested me after 6 weeks and my estrogen was high so he upped my arimidex from .5mg a week to 1mg a week.

[Humble Narcissist]

How long do you want to live after 60 FFS
im 60 in 18 months its pretty much all downhill from here on in

Dont drink , smoke or take drugs as they knock years off your life

Yes, but only the fucking last ones which are by far the worst

I dont want immigrants dragging me out of bed in a fucking care home when Im 80

The downhill slide starts at 30.

[BigRo]

Yes
He's still keeping my dose the same he called me yesterday after the results came in and asked if I was still on carnivore,  I told him yes, he's been suggesting to his patients to adhere to a carnivore or at least an animal based nutrition protocol due to my past 2 labs, everything is in range, my labs are the best of his patients (fasting glucose, hemoglobin, tsh, ast, alt, psa, triglycerides, total cholesterol etc)  so he hasn't lowered my dose, but technically he should yes.

The HCG is in such a miniscule amount, is this because of estrogen related sides? Usually it is given at 250iu twice a week.

[Kwon]

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