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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #100 on: March 05, 2024, 07:47:08 AM »
No seriously two years of war and nobody even knows if we're using the The.

Fine. Are people who live there Ukrainians or The Ukrainians?

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #101 on: March 05, 2024, 09:25:49 AM »
The Ohio State University.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #102 on: March 05, 2024, 09:29:28 AM »
Putin wants a negotiated settlement to the war.  He has wanted to negotiate from the start.

This will eventually happen once the U.S. and NATO decide the cost of the war has become too much to continue and/or they have achieved their objective of weakening Russia to no longer be a future threat.

Ukraine will be carved up between NATO and Russia.  Like East and West Germany were.

All this could have been done before the war started.  Instead the Ukes and Russian youth have been genocided to further U.S. aims.

Aside from all the Uke lives that have been wasted, it is a good deal for the U.S. if Russia is permanently weakened by their loss of youth.

Agree.

They had a signed draft for a ceasefire in Istanbul and we sent Boris there to derail it. We wanted Ukraine to fight.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #103 on: March 05, 2024, 04:51:14 PM »
Agree.

They had a signed draft for a ceasefire in Istanbul and we sent Boris there to derail it. We wanted Ukraine to fight.

Putin schill any scenario where there is peace is a scenario where putin wins, you hate mongering piece of garbage

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #104 on: March 05, 2024, 05:00:15 PM »
No seriously two years of war and nobody even knows if we're using the The.

Fine. Are people who live there Ukrainians or The Ukrainians?

The "correct" way now is without the "the." Some keep saying "the" to piss off someone. I don't know why they keep changing it, probably to signal something to Russia.

More on spelling:

"There is also some debate as to whether using the double “y” is an act of defiance against the Russians by Zelensky.

To understand that, consider how the capital of Ukraine is spelled. “Kyiv” is the transliteration in English of the Ukrainian spelling of the nation’s capital. “Kiev” is based on the Russian spelling of the city’s name.

“Kyiv means that you transliterate into English from the original Ukrainian name of the Ukrainian capital. By doing so you recognize the fact that it is Ukrainian. By not doing so you question the fact that it is a Ukrainian city,” Dr. Yuri Shevchuk, a member of the department of Slavic languages at Columbia University, told The Forward earlier this month."

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #105 on: March 05, 2024, 05:31:32 PM »
Ok how come some people call it Ukraine but other people call it The Ukraine?




I thought it had something to do with the word meaning “Frontierland” or something so we put the “the” in front. I could be wrong and I’m too lazy to stop typing and use google.


Also, The Gambia uses the in the name as well. Can’t think of many others.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #106 on: March 06, 2024, 03:52:36 AM »
She’s fat!



US diplomat Nuland, strong supporter of Ukraine, to step down | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-diplomat-nuland-strong-supporter-ukraine-step-down-2024-03-05/

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #107 on: March 06, 2024, 03:57:25 AM »
This morning I got up, went to the bathroom, put on the coffeepot, and sat down in the front of the computer to see what is going on in the world.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #108 on: March 06, 2024, 03:59:25 AM »
She’s fat!



US diplomat Nuland, strong supporter of Ukraine, to step down | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-diplomat-nuland-strong-supporter-ukraine-step-down-2024-03-05/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

Nuland was born in 1961 to Sherwin B. Nuland, a surgeon born to Eastern European Jewish immigrants from Bessarabia, then part of Russia, with the last name Nudelman,[10] and a Christian British native mother, Rhona McKhann, née Goulston.[11] She graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in 1979.[12] She has two younger half-siblings, Amelia and William.[13] She earned a bachelor of arts degree from Brown University in 1983, where she studied Russian literature, political science, and history.[14][15]She speaks Russian and French,[16] and a smattering of Chinese.[17]

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #109 on: March 06, 2024, 04:06:37 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

Nuland was born in 1961 to Sherwin B. Nuland, a surgeon born to Eastern European Jewish immigrants from Bessarabia, then part of Russia, with the last name Nudelman,[10] and a Christian British native mother, Rhona McKhann, née Goulston.[11] She graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in 1979.[12] She has two younger half-siblings, Amelia and William.[13] She earned a bachelor of arts degree from Brown University in 1983, where she studied Russian literature, political science, and history.[14][15]She speaks Russian and French,[16] and a smattering of Chinese.[17]. Nuland is obese with a bodyfat percentage well over 30%.

They left out that she’s fat. I updated it.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #110 on: March 06, 2024, 04:25:31 AM »
This morning I got up, went to the bathroom, put on the coffeepot, and sat down in the front of the computer to see what is going on in the world.

Well, keep off the facebook and the twitter. That's how they getcha.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #111 on: March 06, 2024, 04:28:18 AM »
Ukraine has as big a chance of "Winning" as Biden has being re-elected.
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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #112 on: March 06, 2024, 04:31:28 AM »
The "correct" way now is without the "the." Some keep saying "the" to piss off someone. I don't know why they keep changing it, probably to signal something to Russia.

More on spelling:

"There is also some debate as to whether using the double “y” is an act of defiance against the Russians by Zelensky.

To understand that, consider how the capital of Ukraine is spelled. “Kyiv” is the transliteration in English of the Ukrainian spelling of the nation’s capital. “Kiev” is based on the Russian spelling of the city’s name.

“Kyiv means that you transliterate into English from the original Ukrainian name of the Ukrainian capital. By doing so you recognize the fact that it is Ukrainian. By not doing so you question the fact that it is a Ukrainian city,” Dr. Yuri Shevchuk, a member of the department of Slavic languages at Columbia University, told The Forward earlier this month."

The way it's going I expect a switcheroo.

"Which Ukraine do you mean? Western Ukraine or Eastern Ruskraine?"

"I mean The Ukraine."

Oh! A dreamer!

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #113 on: March 06, 2024, 04:38:30 AM »
Well, keep off the facebook and the twitter. That's how they getcha.

Good advices.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #114 on: March 06, 2024, 08:01:35 PM »
Agree.

They had a signed draft for a ceasefire in Istanbul and we sent Boris there to derail it. We wanted Ukraine to fight.

Kremlin propaganda. Yeah peace treaty ie let us invade and get what we want and you surrender. ::)

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #115 on: March 06, 2024, 08:04:45 PM »
You have that backwards. Its Ukraine that went after civilians. Putin actually tried to minimize civilian casualties.

Can I suck your balls lord putler? He flattened Mariupol with 20k dead. He bombs the fuck out of cities far from the front line every day  ::)

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #116 on: March 06, 2024, 08:06:43 PM »
Ukraine were beaten by day 3, Russia has been fighting NATO or the entire US and NATO special forces and weaponary since day 4, just like all other proxy wars, western special forces stay well behind the front lines, but they are responsible for the precision guided hits, not some Ukrainian grunt, they re just on the front lines to die for a cause that doesn't give two shits about them.

Zelensky and the west mainly US  wants to develop Ukrainian gas that where developed can assist Europe with its dependence on Russia, Obviously this isn't in Russias interest, Ukraine in many Russians eyes owes all its wealth and sovereignty to its previous soviet position, I note that others have mentioned Ukraines previous nuclear weapon position, that was a soviet position therefore Russian position in Russias opinion not Ukrainian, there are two sides to this conflict, dont be blinded by the west or anti west and therefore pro Putin, simply this is a terrible waste of life for the common man who stands to gain nothing whatever the outcome.

 Zelensky and Putin are both the same, just Zelensky bids for his western partners, Putin himself and Russias strategic interest, they are being isolated even after the Soviet Union collapsed and NATO continues to encroach on their border, basically eroding any concessions given to Stalin post world war, where Russias sacrifice was far greater than say the US, there are more than a few old US war  commentators who feel the Second World War should have continued with the US bombing Moscow after Japan, then stopping the Cold War rather than starting it by not doing it.Rember only one country has ever dropped a nuclear type bomb on a civilian population and it wasn't Russia or China.

Sorry for the lack of punctuation before the getbig scholars jump to relevance.

Such nonsense that Ukraine was beaten after three days, wow haha, Russia thought they could take Kyiv in 3 days. They failed. Get it right.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #117 on: March 07, 2024, 11:04:08 AM »
Such nonsense that Ukraine was beaten after three days, wow haha, Russia thought they could take Kyiv in 3 days. They failed. Get it right.

Nonsense that Zelensky claims Ukraine only has 31,000 casualties after 2 years while Russia supposedly had 3,500 dead and 500 tanks destroyed in just 2 days - probably by the "Ghost of Kiev". Ukraine is being used by the West and Zelensky is all too happy to sacrifice his Ukraine's people for that purpose.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #118 on: March 07, 2024, 11:07:56 AM »
Nonsense that Zelensky claims Ukraine only has 31,000 casualties after 2 years while Russia supposedly had 3,500 dead and 500 tanks destroyed in just 2 days - probably by the "Ghost of Kiev". Ukraine is being used by the West and Zelensky is all too happy to sacrifice his Ukraine's people for that purpose.

Are you questioning The Ukraine's heroic 3,100 casualties?

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #119 on: March 07, 2024, 11:28:32 AM »
She’s fat!



US diplomat Nuland, strong supporter of Ukraine, to step down | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-diplomat-nuland-strong-supporter-ukraine-step-down-2024-03-05/

All those years of lying will do that to you:


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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #120 on: March 07, 2024, 11:29:45 AM »


Turned into Nurse Ratchet

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #121 on: March 07, 2024, 11:55:32 AM »
All those years of lying will do that to you:


Madeleine Albright 2.0

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #122 on: March 07, 2024, 12:06:57 PM »
Madeleine Albright 2.0

That first pic is probably heavily touched up.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #123 on: March 07, 2024, 12:08:11 PM »
That first pic is probably heavily touched up.

Monica Brant-level filters.

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Re: To anyone thinking the Ukraine ever had a chance in hell of "winning"
« Reply #124 on: March 07, 2024, 12:15:09 PM »
Nonsense that Zelensky claims Ukraine only has 31,000 casualties after 2 years while Russia supposedly had 3,500 dead and 500 tanks destroyed in just 2 days - probably by the "Ghost of Kiev". Ukraine is being used by the West and Zelensky is all too happy to sacrifice his Ukraine's people for that purpose.

Yes Zelenskys figures of KIA were much lower. Russia still has the exceeding count. Ukraine are not being used, they fight back of thier own accord and are grateful for Western aid without which the war would be lost.