how many calories do you eat per day?

[dj181]

acoording to 4 calories estimators online my maintanice cals are 2700

i'm starting with 2400 cals and see where i land

gotta figure out my mainaince first and then add either 50 cals according to mentzer or 10% according to big paul and friends for lean gains only

[Amerian Muscle]

I heard on a podcast that, despite being fifty years old, you still live with your mother and receive an allowance from her. Is this accurate?

[dj181]

he says you can gain 6-7 pounds of muscle with only one pound of fat by using a 10% surplus

@ 1:31:00

[Taffin]

acoording to 4 calories estimators online my maintanice cals are 2700

i'm starting with 2400 cals and see where i land

gotta figure out my mainaince first and then add either 50 cals according to mentzer or 10% according to big paul and friends for lean gains only

Ooh - it's not like you to change what you're doing on a day to day basis after watching a YouTube video 

[Grape Ape]

1900-2800.

[robcguns]

Workout days 3500
Non workout days 2500

[dj181]

1900-2800.

you just wrote those outta nothing right

according to mentzers heavy duty nutrition my bmr is 1884

and thee tables say it's 2700

impressive

[dj181]

Workout days 3500
Non workout days 2500

i train every goddamn fucking day but just once a day now

most everyone says train 3-5 days per week and not every goddamn day

i might be able to do a 2 on/1 off split

maybe...

i only trianed bis today and i do not train legs so maybe everyday isn't so bad

today i did barbell curls, hammer ropes and dumbbell spider curl

my spider curl is pretty fucking strong 40 pound bells for 7 reps to failure

i gotta feeling i'll be able to work up to 60-65 pound bells for 5-8 which is my rep range, if i get there i will have VERY LARGE BICEPS

[oldtimer1]

When my diet is on point about 2400. I've been hovering at 172lbs lately. I want to get to 164lbs where I was surprised how good I looked for natural guy that isn't a bodybuilder. When I say fuck it I wonder if I hit 3500 plus. I can eat like a drunken 400lbs man. 

I use a calorie counter on my phone. It's the Lose It app. It's free and easy to use. Works amazing. If I do it for just two weeks without fail I lose weight. The only flaw I see with it that it counts walking and running pretty accurately but it gives me far too much credit for lifting. Maybe if you're doing volume, drop sets, supersets, tri sets and giant sets it's accurate. Truth be told a typical lifting session using heavy weight and low sets are not calorie burners. If you want to try the Lose It app it's icon is an orange scale. There are other apps that call them self Lose It. 

[Grape Ape]

you just wrote those outta nothing right

according to mentzers heavy duty nutrition my bmr is 1884

and thee tables say it's 2700

impressive

What do you mean out of nothing?

When I bother to track, it puts me in that range.

If I add two potatoes + oats, that gets me to about 2800 ish.   If I don't add those, I'm at like 2000-2100, with 160-220 grams of protein, mostly healthy fats.

The other day was something like this:

5 organic eggs
1/2 avocado
cup greek yogurt
small amount of potatoes


elk burger
egg
slice cheese
avocado/saurkraut
2 slices of dave's killer bread

4-6 oz salmon
roasted broccoli (roast about 2lbs every sunday and just add to meals during the week)
sweet potato

shake - 50g of whey, almond butter, blueberries, maybe 20g collagen


That's pretty much the frame work.  If bother to make overnight oats the night before, I can do an 800-900 cal  breakfast easy.....all depends what I'm trying to do.

If I'm doing any endurance stuff, for example, my cals go up because I'm always hungry, etc

I'm kind of 80/20 - 80% of the time, eat good stuff, but will enjoy myself as well if the right burger presents itself.   Just now, someone sent us some Georgetown Cupcakes for the holidays, so I had two "preworkout" lol.

[Skeletor]

acoording to 4 calories estimators online my maintanice cals are 2700

i'm starting with 2400 cals and see where i land

gotta figure out my mainaince first and then add either 50 cals according to mentzer or 10% according to big paul and friends for lean gains only

You look like you eat around 1200 kcals daily.

[dj181]

When my diet is on point about 2400. I've been hovering at 172lbs lately. I want to get to 164lbs where I was surprised how good I looked for natural guy that isn't a bodybuilder. When I say fuck it I wonder if I hit 3500 plus. I can eat like a drunken 400lbs man. 

I use a calorie counter on my phone. It's the Lose It app. It's free and easy to use. Works amazing. If I do it for just two weeks without fail I lose weight. The only flaw I see with it that it counts walking and running pretty accurately but it gives me far too much credit for lifting. Maybe if you're doing volume, drop sets, supersets, tri sets and giant sets it's accurate. Truth be told a typical lifting session using heavy weight and low sets are not calorie burners. If you want to try the Lose It app it's icon is an orange scale. There are other apps that call them self Lose It.

i just dropped all that set extender horseshit, that crap was overtraining me and crusking my goddamn gains

now it's only one or two sets til failure of 3 exeercies so total volume of 3-6 work failure sets

i did this shit in my mid-20s and went from 154 to 167 in bout 2 months without roids and bf stayed the goddamn same

i got very strong db pressing 100s for 5-6

mentzer is right, at least what he said pre 1990's

he lost it then

2 sets to failure once a week DOES NOT WORK

in the late 70s while competing he did bout 12 sets til failure training eod

his heavy duty one was 6 sets to failure on m-w-f training each bodypart once a week and that might work, but my optimum frequency is roughly every 5 days

if you hit a muslce every 5 days you get 6 stimulations if once a week only 4 stimulations, in the late 70s he hit each muscle every 4 days

[dj181]

What do you mean out of nothing?

When I bother to track, it puts me in that range.

If I add two potatoes + oats, that gets me to about 2800 ish.   If I don't add those, I'm at like 2000-2100, with 160-220 grams of protein, mostly healthy fats.

The other day was something like this:

5 organic eggs
1/2 avocado
cup greek yogurt
small amount of potatoes


elk burger
egg
slice cheese
avocado/saurkraut
2 slices of dave's killer bread

4-6 oz salmon
roasted broccoli (roast about 2lbs every sunday and just add to meals during the week)
sweet potato

shake - 50g of whey, almond butter, blueberries, maybe 20g collagen


That's pretty much the frame work.  If bother to make overnight oats the night before, I can do an 800-900 cal  breakfast easy.....all depends what I'm trying to do.

If I'm doing any endurance stuff, for example, my cals go up because I'm always hungry, etc

I'm kind of 80/20 - 80% of the time, eat good stuff, but will enjoy myself as well if the right burger presents itself.   Just now, someone sent us some Georgetown Cupcakes for the holidays, so I had two "preworkout" lol.

it's just strange you hit the nail on the head with my findings

here's my macros... Pro-114 Carb-352 Fat-62 2422

ima gonna log results for me and my bud and make adjustments as i go

my theroy is high carbs are best like mentzer says

[dj181]

You look like you eat around 1200 kcals daily.

i was doing that but now i'm ripped and dry so i plan to stay ripped and dry while adding muscle fullness and roundness

this is my weakness, i'm too flat and dry and i got a feeling high carbs and anadrol will rescue me

but i will VERY VERY CLOSELY MONITOR THIS and if it doesnt work out as planned my dietary adjustments

i have never ever paid this much attentionto diet before

[oldtimer1]

i just dropped all that set extender horseshit, that crap was overtraining me and crusking my goddamn gains

now it's only one or two sets til failure of 3 exeercies so total volume of 3-6 work failure sets

i did this shit in my mid-20s and went from 154 to 167 in bout 2 months without roids and bf stayed the goddamn same

i got very strong db pressing 100s for 5-6

mentzer is right, at least what he said pre 1990's

he lost it then

2 sets to failure once a week DOES NOT WORK

in the late 70s while competing he did bout 12 sets til failure training eod

his heavy duty one was 6 sets to failure on m-w-f training each bodypart once a week and that might work, but my optimum frequency is roughly every 5 days

if you hit a muslce every 5 days you get 6 stimulations if once a week only 4 stimulations, in the late 70s he hit each muscle every 4 days

If you want to talk about Mentzer you came to the expert. During his peak competitive career he used one to two work sets per exercise. He also did two to four exercises a bodypart. For his Mr. America win he used a whole body routine three days a week.  After that he split his body in two for a two way split and trained four days a week. When Frank Calta came out with rotation for recuperation Mentzer went to that split training body parts directly once or twice week. It looked like this, Monday: Legs, chest and Triceps. Wednesday: Back, shoulders and biceps.  The next week he rotated. Monday: Back, delts and biceps. Wednesday: legs, chest and triceps.  Friday: Back, delts and Biceps.  The workouts he tried to push on those he trained when he retired was something he never did when he was competing. It must have been nice to train a client for 25 minutes then say I will see you in 8 days. 

[joswift]

he says you can gain 6-7 pounds of muscle with only one pound of fat by using a 10% surplus

@ 1:31:00

until we hear from Vigorous Steve its still just conjecture.

[Grape Ape]

it's just strange you hit the nail on the head with my findings

here's my macros... Pro-114 Carb-352 Fat-62 2422

ima gonna log results for me and my bud and make adjustments as i go

my theroy is high carbs are best like mentzer says

I would add 100g of protein and remove 100 from the carb.

But diets work for individuals differently, but you do have to stay with one long enough to see what actually works.

[Irongrip400]

3,800-4,500 depending on how I feel.


Permas gonna perma…

[robcguns]

i train every goddamn fucking day but just once a day now

most everyone says train 3-5 days per week and not every goddamn day

i might be able to do a 2 on/1 off split

maybe...

i only trianed bis today and i do not train legs so maybe everyday isn't so bad

today i did barbell curls, hammer ropes and dumbbell spider curl

my spider curl is pretty fucking strong 40 pound bells for 7 reps to failure

i gotta feeling i'll be able to work up to 60-65 pound bells for 5-8 which is my rep range, if i get there i will have VERY LARGE BICEPS

Honestly dj you want huge biceps dump all the curls and do chin ups with a pause at the top and bottom of each rep for a couple seconds then on the last rep hold the negative as long as you can until you are straight armed for each set. And keep making the negatives longer. Your bis will get as big as they possibly can get.

[King Shizzo]

According to the mirror, too much.

[IroNat]

"Calories in...calories out." -- Mike Mentzer

[Rambone]

About 3500 to maintain weight which makes eating a full-time job

[joswift]

no idea

[IroNat]

no idea

What's wrong with you?

[joswift]

What's wrong with you?

I dont count calories...