Tom Platz and Leo Costa Arms Day and Leg Day

[Bevo]

obliterated by corrupted judges

So him being 5th place, you saying he should have won over 2nd through 4th??

[MAXX]

they train hard. I can see why Tom would need 2 weeks of rest sometimes.

leg extensions to failure even with cheat reps for like 4 set and then go to squats i don't know about that though. Would like half the weight I could do in squats after. Im not sure he did this often or usually or just to mix it up

[joswift]

they train hard. I can see why Tom would need 2 weeks of rest sometimes.

leg extensions to failure even with cheat reps for like 4 set and then go to squats i don't know about that though. Would like half the weight I could do in squats after. Im not sure he did this often or usually or just to mix it up

take a muscle to failure and it will respond, any more than that is just wasting your time and doing more harm than good.


All that fucking about and bouncing around and shaking machines is doing absolutly fuck all


I train much lighter and less frequently than I used to since I stopped competing yet I still maintain most of what I had training way harder and longer.

Bodybuilding is pretty much pumping up your muscles and stretching the fascia to allow the muscles to hold more water in the cells

bodybuilers tend to do high reps, if low reps with high weights built muscle then strongmen and powerlifters would have the biggest, they clearly dont, there are strongmen that are fat as fuck and yet fery strong but if they got down to 5% bf you wouldnt even think they lift

If Platz jad stopped after his set to failure and gone home he would have looked exactly the same.

[MAXX]

take a muscle to failure and it will respond, any more than that is just wasting your time and doing more harm than good.


All that fucking about and bouncing around and shaking machines is doing absolutly fuck all


I train much lighter and less frequently than I used to since I stopped competing yet I still maintain most of what I had training way harder and longer.

Bodybuilding is pretty much pumping up your muscles and stretching the fascia to allow the muscles to hold more water in the cells

bodybuilers tend to do high reps, if low reps with high weights built muscle then strongmen and powerlifters would have the biggest, they clearly dont, there are strongmen that are fat as fuck and yet fery strong but if they got down to 5% bf you wouldnt even think they lift

If Platz jad stopped after his set to failure and gone home he would have looked exactly the same.

by training hard I mean the intensity of the sets are very high. Tom has that ability to push himself to absolute failure. And to do that in multiple squat sets is pretty impressive imo.

This is from my own personal experience having tried many different training methods. If I do 1 Set to absolute failure/maximum intensity, I'm able to recover fully from it in about 3-4 days and do it again no problem. This gave me good progress..

If I do more volume like Tom does here it will take me 7-10 days. So imo you have to adapt your training frequenzy to chosen volume(and intensity ofc). I don't fully subscribe to the Mentzer theories. But also people are very different in their ability to recover so there a huge variance between individuals

[affeman]

by training hard I mean the intensity of the sets are very high. Tom has that ability to push himself to absolute failure. And to do that in multiple squat sets is pretty impressive imo.

This is from my own personal experience having tried many different training methods. If I do 1 Set to absolute failure/maximum intensity, I'm able to recover fully from it in about 3-4 days and do it again no problem. This gave me good progress..

If I do more volume like Tom does here it will take me 7-10 days. So imo you have to adapt your training frequenzy to chosen volume(and intensity ofc). I don't fully subscribe to the Mentzer theories. But also people are very different in their ability to recover so there a huge variance between individuals

There are plenty of different definitions of "absolute failure". Most people consider it to be muscle failure when they can't complete a positive rep on their own anymore.

For guys like Platz muscle failure is smth like that. I've never seen one of the greatest BB ever (Ronnie, Jay, Dorian, Phil,...) train like that ever, so I doubt it's necessary.

[joswift]

by training hard I mean the intensity of the sets are very high. Tom has that ability to push himself to absolute failure. And to do that in multiple squat sets is pretty impressive imo.

This is from my own personal experience having tried many different training methods. If I do 1 Set to absolute failure/maximum intensity, I'm able to recover fully from it in about 3-4 days and do it again no problem. This gave me good progress..

If I do more volume like Tom does here it will take me 7-10 days. So imo you have to adapt your training frequenzy to chosen volume(and intensity ofc). I don't fully subscribe to the Mentzer theories. But also people are very different in their ability to recover so there a huge variance between individuals

a squat to failure means you fail at the bottom not eeking out a rep and placing the bar on the rack

I will wager he hasnt trained to fail at the bottom of a squat on purpose, that would be reckless and stupid

[MAXX]

a squat to failure means you fail at the bottom not eeking out a rep and placing the bar on the rack

I will wager he hasnt trained to fail at the bottom of a squat on purpose, that would be reckless and stupid

Well that is true he does not reach complete absolute failure, and there's no forced extra reps. But Im not sure if that would make a difference. if he tried a rep after his last he would just get down to the bottom and stay there. I do that often since I use safety bars to be able to drop it. but I'm not sure if there is a benefit...

But there is also such a thing as the mindset to push through, this is more so for the squat. Say Tom did 10 reps here. Most people would give up and call it a failure at rep 7. That is my opinion I've seen how many people train. His reps slows down considerably by the last 3 reps but he is still able to squeek them out. It's just my opinion that he is able to push through with an ability that most dont have.