i totally disagree about the cardio. since when was cardio so great? "cardio" reffers to getting your heartrate faster. you can do that in many other ways. a cardio session burns very little calories. and that stuff about your metabolism being higher for the next few hours is crap because lifting weights gives you that even better. you're better off not eating the extra calories. every time i've done cardio i've dropped lots of muscle. what makes you think you're losing fat alone when you're doing that cardio anyway? if i'm not on steroids i'm not gonna run on the hampster wheel. that's all i got to say about that. Vince Gironda was the best trainer for naturals and what did he say about cardio? Wheather you guys agree on the cardio with me or not is besides the point because I won't do it. If you say LOSE FAT then I'll do it but my way. Anyway the cardio isn't gonna fill in my chest, make my shoulders bigger, back thicker, etc. so it has really not much at all to do with this topic.
The 120 pound pic. I believe i was 19. i had been like 140 or something before but lost it again. i'm close to 24 now but i've been training consistantly since December 04'. my high (fat) weight was 192. Now I'm 181.
By the way my claves are totally natural. As in I don't even train them. They just grow by themselves, that's the way they are.