Just another MAGA hypocrite.

[Grape Ape]

  Yup 8 ml which isn't very much. It's like having a coke habit, only you put it in your eye and not up the nose.

Looks like glaucoma meds are up across the board.  Blaming exclusivity, lack of generic options, PBMs....I did find the same stuff BBC posted - looks like you CAN order from outside the US if you want to explore.

Looking for other economic drivers that might be driven by policy

[funk51]

  What's the chance the great big beautiful ballroom will be finished in the next 3 years ??  I give it a 5 per-cent chance. put in your guess 2 years 3 years , never. what do you think.

[Grape Ape]

  What's the chance the great big beautiful ballroom will be finished in the next 3 years ??  I give it a 5 per-cent chance. put in your guess 2 years 3 years , never. what do you think.

I literally don't think about it all.

Like ever.

Why would I care one bit about a White House renovation?

[funk51]

I literally don't think about it all.

Like ever.

Why would I care one bit about a White House renovation?

 

                              Why not, you should take pride in this big beautiful ball room, it could be the envy of all the other nations. I hear they are putting 5 inch thick glass in it. Don't you want to see the self titled greatest president bust a move on the dance floor.

[Primemuscle]

He keeps talking about Trumps lies, but uses sources like Adam Schiff, Jen Psaki, The Lincoln Project, MSNBC to prove it........he's stuck in a pool of complete partisan lying and thinks it's truth.

I will eventually restore the gold weights to their former glory.

Do you believe Trump was completely truthful in this, his recent address?

[chaos]

Do you believe Trump was completely truthful in this, his recent address?

Before I waste 18 minutes, do you believe ANY president has been truthful in their addresses? If so, who and when?

[Grape Ape]

Do you believe Trump was completely truthful in this, his recent address?

I didn't watch it, but it's a presidential address, so are they ever?

EDIT: LOL - just saw chaos' response.

[deadz]

Before I waste 18 minutes, do you believe ANY president has been truthful in their addresses? If so, who and when?

Prime has his head up his loose asshole once again. Libs, dumbest c unts on the planet.

[Necrosis]

Before I waste 18 minutes, do you believe ANY president has been truthful in their addresses? If so, who and when?

there are degrees of truth thats for sure. Making up numbers and shit is outright lying vs an opinion on facts which you can bend the truth. The guy is up there saying he has reduced drugs more than 100%, he sounds retarded.

[Grape Ape]

there are degrees of truth thats for sure. Making up numbers and shit is outright lying vs an opinion on facts which you can bend the truth. The guy is up there saying he has reduced drugs more than 100%, he sounds retarded.

Saying 100% of course doesn't make sense.

But if the below is true, 98% might be close enough?

President Donald Trump has announced agreements with nine major pharmaceutical companies to reduce drug prices in the U.S., aligning them with the lowest prices paid by other developed nations, known as "most-favored-nation" (MFN) pricing.
 These deals, announced on December 19, 2025, include lowering prices for Medicaid programs and offering deep discounts to cash-paying patients through a new direct-to-consumer website, TrumpRx.gov, launching in January 2026.
 Specific price reductions have been detailed, such as Sanofi reducing the price of Plavix from $756 to $16 and Gilead Sciences cutting the cost of Epclusa from $24,920 to $2,425 for direct purchasers.
 The agreements also require companies to sell new drugs in the U.S. at prices no higher than those in peer nations and to invest collectively at least $150 billion in U.S. manufacturing.

The other day, funk was blaming Trump for the rising cost of his Rx script.  I legit tried to tie a policy to it, but admittedly could not.  However, this should make someone like funk happy, no?

I haven't had a chance for the latest spin from his detractors telling me why this is bad, or in fact, untrue, or both.

[funk51]

  https://www.axios.com/2025/12/21/missing-epstein-files-doj-trump-photo             

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[Grape Ape]

Upper left corner "Trump Resistance Movement"

You are so deep in the algorithm you cannot see.

Worse than I thought.

[Primemuscle]

Upper left corner "Trump Resistance Movement"

You are so deep in the algorithm you cannot see.

Worse than I thought.

The Trump Resistance Movement is a center-left to the far-left American progressive political and grass roots social movement made up of mainstream Liberals and Democrats. It is no more extreme than MAGA which was originally a slogan coined by Donald Trump. It evolved into a grassroots-driven political movement which is intensely connected with Donald Trump's vision for America, influencing both domestic policies and international relations.

Like all grass roots movements, they are made up of individuals. Some of whom either lean left or right politically. One is no more extreme than the other.

Millions of Americans consider themselves to be political centrists, neither on the far right or the far left. Do you believe the Getbig political board is made up mostly of centrists, rightists, or leftists?

Are you so deep in the algorithm that you cannot view both these groups for what they are?

   

[Grape Ape]

The Trump Resistance Movement is a center-left to the far-left American progressive political and grass roots social movement made up of mainstream Liberals and Democrats. It is no more extreme than MAGA which was originally a slogan coined by Donald Trump. It evolved into a grassroots-driven political movement which is intensely connected with Donald Trump's vision for America, influencing both domestic policies and international relations.

Like all grass roots movements, they are made up of individuals. Some of whom either lean left or right politically. One is no more extreme than the other.

Millions of Americans consider themselves to be political centrists, neither on the far right or the far left. Do you believe the Getbig political board is made up mostly of centrists, rightists, or leftists?

Are you so deep in the algorithm that you cannot view both these groups for what they are?

   

Your rush to google has caused you to miss the point, so I'll explain it.

I get on funk's case for two main things - posting false memes and misinformation, and using biased sources.

So when I see the source of Trump critique named "Trump Resistance Movement", I really don't need to go a googlin' to confirm that they MIGHT be a tad biased.  But since you did, you confirmed it for me.

And if they are no different than MAGA, as you pointed out, that only solidifies bias even more.  If I saw a pro trump youtube called "MAGA FOR TRUMP", my first thoughts would be that they'd be biased as well.

Off topic, but if you actually believe centrists comprise any hint of a majority of something called "Trump Resistance Movement", I've got news for you.  Same thing with it being "grass roots".  But I will be open minded - can you show me your link to what you posted - I didn't find any specific info about that youtube channel like you did.

[chaos]

Your rush to google....

A far left influenced source of information as well.

[illuminati]

A far left influenced source of information as well.

It most certainly is & no doubt why prime use it.

[LurkerNoMore]

there are degrees of truth thats for sure. Making up numbers and shit is outright lying vs an opinion on facts which you can bend the truth. The guy is up there saying he has reduced drugs more than 100%, he sounds retarded.

400% - 500% - in some cases 600% drug reduction costs.  Which mathematically is impossible.  But when has math ever made sense to MAGA?  (2020 election is prime example).  This would require getting money back from the pharmacy each time you took a prescription in.  Basically getting paid to receive medications.

This ranks up there with the 18 or whatever Trillion we have made this year.

Or the 300 million US citizens that died from drugs last year.  (The population is only about 340-360 million)

"Economic boom"

The man is a serial liar and has to rely on incel supporters to defend his nonsense at every turn.

[funk51]

400% - 500% - in some cases 600% drug reduction costs.  Which mathematically is impossible.  But when has math ever made sense to MAGA?  (2020 election is prime example).  This would require getting money back from the pharmacy each time you took a prescription in.  Basically getting paid to receive medications.

This ranks up there with the 18 or whatever Trillion we have made this year.

Or the 300 million US citizens that died from drugs last year.  (The population is only about 340-360 million)

"Economic boom"

The man is a serial liar and has to rely on incel supporters to defend his nonsense at every turn.

   

               Yet his loyal followers treat him like he is some kind of Messiah, SAD. He knows his base, when he said I could shoot somebody in the middle of 5 th avenue and I won't lose any voters.

[Grape Ape]

   

               Yet his loyal followers treat him like he is some kind of Messiah, SAD. He knows his base, when he said I could shoot somebody in the middle of 5 th avenue and I won't lose any voters.

If he gets drug prices lowered by a 6 fold or 8 fold, rather than stating it incorrectly as 600 or 800%, do your REALLY care how it's phrased?

If your drug ends up with a reduced price on TrumpRx in 2026, will you refuse to buy it there on principle?

[funk51]

If he gets drug prices lowered by a 6 fold or 8 fold, rather than stating it incorrectly as 600 or 800%, do your REALLY care how it's phrased?

If your drug ends up with a reduced price on TrumpRx in 2026, will you refuse to buy it there on principle?

Shit no if he gets me free drugs, I'll sing his praises to the high heavens , but we all know that's not going to happen. The New Testament quotes Jesus as saying in Luke 18:25 that "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" (Jesus and the rich young man); This is repeated in the same words in Matthew 19:24 and Mark 10:25.

[Grape Ape]

Shit no if he gets me free drugs, I'll sing his praises to the high heavens , but we all know that's not going to happen. The New Testament quotes Jesus as saying in Luke 18:25 that "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" (Jesus and the rich young man); This is repeated in the same words in Matthew 19:24 and Mark 10:25.

Yes, I'm aware you hate him.

But, he legit is trying to bypass the insurance companies and go direct, which would lower prices - is that a bad thing?

This is how f'd the drug business was, from my time there:

Drug manufacturer would sell their drugs to a wholesaler.

Wholesaler sells the drugs to places like CVS marked up.

Manufacturer gives CVS a kickback based on agreements, but the wholesaler has no idea of the amount or what the true price CVS pays.

But here is where the real money was made:

CVS buys a brand drug for $100, charges the insurance company $120, makes 20%

Drug goes generic, CVS buys generic version for 50 cents, charges the insurance company $40, makes 7900%.

Insurance companies got f'd and passed that along to the consumer.

Now, over the years they, and the brand drug makers wisened up and started countering - brand would make their own generics, PBMs learned prices, bought direct, etc........

Anyway, that's just a superficial explanation from my memory and things have changed - the point is,  the whole thing is f'd, so if TrumpRx can cut through some of that, that's great.  Kind of like what Mark Cuban was trying to do.....of course, we'll see if it works, because the drug companies and ins companies are smart....

[funk51]

Yes, I'm aware you hate him.

But, he legit is trying to bypass the insurance companies and go direct, which would lower prices - is that a bad thing?

This is how f'd the drug business was, from my time there:

Drug manufacturer would sell their drugs to a wholesaler.

Wholesaler sells the drugs to places like CVS marked up.

Manufacturer gives CVS a kickback based on agreements, but the wholesaler has no idea of the amount or what the true price CVS pays.

But here is where the real money was made:

CVS buys a brand drug for $100, charges the insurance company $120, makes 20%

Drug goes generic, CVS buys generic version for 50 cents, charges the insurance company $40, makes 7900%.

Insurance companies got f'd and passed that along to the consumer.

Now, over the years they, and the brand drug makers wisened up and started countering - brand would make their own generics, PBMs learned prices, bought direct, etc........

Anyway, that's just a superficial explanation from my memory and things have changed - the point is,  the whole thing is f'd, so if TrumpRx can cut through some of that, that's great.  Kind of like what Mark Cuban was trying to do.....of course, we'll see if it works, because the drug companies and ins companies are smart....

  of course, we'll see if it works, because the drug companies and ins companies are smart....And Trump isn't to follow up on your sentence which you ended in.... Be honest Trump doesn't really understand or for that matter care to understand these concepts, he is in it only to enhance his own brand as all good grifters are. As a conman/grifter he has no equal. He is right there, no one is better. We all have to agree to that.

[Grape Ape]

  of course, we'll see if it works, because the drug companies and ins companies are smart....And Trump isn't to follow up on your sentence which you ended in.... Be honest Trump doesn't really understand or for that matter care to understand these concepts, he is in it only to enhance his own brand as all good grifters are. As a conman/grifter he has no equal. He is right there, no one is better. We all have to agree to that.

Of course - even when he does something good, you'll knock it down.

But if you still think he's doing this all to grift, I have no idea what to tell you.

And I can see why you believe that, because you're not exposed to anything that would say otherwise.

Listen to any long form interviews with folks who have met him, or any of him and his family.  Not the confrontational mainstream ones, the independent ones. See what you think.