Working out and Ozempic

[Necrosis]

My training partner swears  by selegiline combined with phenylethylamine, he says you don't  get hungry and your energy levels through the roof all day long. The two have a synergistic effect and don't work standalone, needs to be combined.

ya its a stimulant and a mao-b inhibitor, it could be dangerous but dose dependent.\

Mots-c looks interesting.

[Never1AShow]

Just heard today the three side effects are diarrhea, hair loss and depression.

Sounds like Hankins.

[Lartinos]

Robbie Williams claims Mounjaro is making him 'blind' but singer plans to stay on weight loss jab
https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/robbie-williams-mounjaro-blind-singer-weight-loss-jab

[Humble Narcissist]

Just heard today the three side effects are diarrhea, hair loss and depression.

Sounds like Hankins.

That's why it works so well for weight loss. You shit out everything you eat immediately.

[JK]

I realize I've never read anything (even here that I can recall) about people who work out with weights and take Ozempic or those weight  loss semiglutides/GLP1s or whatever called.  I hear people are losing lots of weight, sure, because it craters appetite.  But I haven't seen anything about people taking this and working out and how that affects them.  Cutting out the slop is one thing, but just not eating much is another. I'd assume strength is plummeting because strength follows weight to a good degree, also similarly losing lots of muscle mass.

Maybe the reason I don't hear is because people who work out aren't doing much of this and do it the old fashioned way knowing what will happen.

Why don't you just take GH instead of Ozempic? Ozempic is harmful to your health, while GH is only beneficial!

[herne]

[Humble Narcissist]

^^^ Mental illness.

[Van_Bilderass]

My training partner swears  by selegiline combined with phenylethylamine, he says you don't  get hungry and your energy levels through the roof all day long. The two have a synergistic effect and don't work standalone, needs to be combined.

Selegeline was pushed by Dr Colgan in MD magazine back in the day. Said he thought it would increase test by 10%, whether that's worth anything (probably not). Problem for some is it makes you test positive for amphetamines through tiny conversion in the body. Hadn't heard of potentiating it with other things, maybe it's great. I think more people might want to try bromantane for a dopamine boost and energy.

[ThisisOverload]

^^^ Mental illness.

100%

[Never1AShow]

People skipping the Zempic to gorge on Thanksgiving.  From the WSJ:

"“I was the one bringing the crazy dish” to family Thanksgivings, says Donnelly-Boylen, 52, an associate law-school dean living in Boston who has lost about 125 pounds on Mounjaro.

Now, he will cut out the maple syrup and brown sugar he added to sweet potatoes. For dessert, he will whip up a healthy pumpkin cheesecake made of high-protein muffin mix and low-fat cottage cheese.

The GLP-1 drugs work by suppressing appetite and making people feel full sooner. Many users stay away from greasy, creamy and sweet foods because they can exacerbate side effects such as nausea.

The drugs are given as weekly shots. Both their efficacy and side effects can wane as the days go by until the next shot. That knowledge has led to strategies—which GLP-1 patients have been discussing in internet chat rooms and on social-media sites—to skip or delay doses to maximize appetites for the feast.

“It’s almost like I’m training—the opposite of how an athlete would train,” says Langer, 47, a founder of a public relations agency. “I’m training so that I can eat more on Thanksgiving.”

[Hulkotron]

Are bodybuilders taking this drug?

[Irongrip400]

Are bodybuilders taking this drug?

I’m sure they are. They take rat poison to lose weight I’m pretty sure they will take a doctor prescribed drug.

[Never1AShow]

I’m sure they are. They take rat poison to lose weight I’m pretty sure they will take a doctor prescribed drug.

Interesting that we've not really heard any stories about bodybuilders taking it

[US MUSL]

Many bodybuilders including pros are using GLP"s. Nick Walker is big on retatrutide.

[wes]

Nick Walker is big on retatrutide.

Yet Nick is not big enough to sit on an adult toilet without his feet dangling!   

[Raymondo]

Yeah I know, wouldn't want to try to 'force' someone like that either. I think in the US many "clinics" pair GLP-1 drugs with "HRT " I also read that gym chains sell paired gym memberships with Ozempic consult as package deal. Which isn't scamming anyone IMO, but I'd bet some gyms add a hormone panel on top so they can sell some anabolics too The GLP drugs aren't innocuous either, like we have the pancreatitis risk which is a very serious thing which I know very well personally. But they just figure if a doc writes a script it must be generally safe.

My bro is getting 2 10mg bottles of this. He weighs like 280lbs and claims to eat 1800 cals a day. I told him he would lose weight automatically, no need to count calories, which he's absolute shit at doing obviously. Fucking guy is 61 and been lifting since his early teens, juicing almost as long, but he still can't even estimate calories. I told him that by my estimation he is taking in 5-6K cals most days. He got all mad, "I'm not fucking dumb!" Yes, yes you are; I didn't tell him that, just dropped it before we ended our friendship I would get on Reta or even Tirza for some of the "health benefits" at microdose but the pancreatitis is worrisome, it's almost damn near killed me or at least feels that way.

Can you write a bit more on the pancreatitis? What caused it? Were there any warning signs if so what were they?

[Van_Bilderass]

Interesting that we've not really heard any stories about bodybuilders taking it

As US MUSCLE said, it seems every bodybuilder is on retatrutide now. Even in the off-season. For health benefits. They are developing glp-1 combos with anabolics focusing on IGF-1 I think, so you won't lose muscle, as always happens otherwise unless on bodybuilding drugs. These are apparently already on the black market but too expensive for the common man, plus there's concerns about serious side effects.

In the works, for example:

"NA 931 is a quadruple agonist—meaning it simultaneously targets GLP 1, GIP, glucagon, and IGF 1 receptors. This multi-pathway approach is a significant advancement over first-generation GLP 1-only agents."

[Humble Narcissist]

People skipping the Zempic to gorge on Thanksgiving.  From the WSJ:

"“I was the one bringing the crazy dish” to family Thanksgivings, says Donnelly-Boylen, 52, an associate law-school dean living in Boston who has lost about 125 pounds on Mounjaro.

Now, he will cut out the maple syrup and brown sugar he added to sweet potatoes. For dessert, he will whip up a healthy pumpkin cheesecake made of high-protein muffin mix and low-fat cottage cheese.

The GLP-1 drugs work by suppressing appetite and making people feel full sooner. Many users stay away from greasy, creamy and sweet foods because they can exacerbate side effects such as nausea.

The drugs are given as weekly shots. Both their efficacy and side effects can wane as the days go by until the next shot. That knowledge has led to strategies—which GLP-1 patients have been discussing in internet chat rooms and on social-media sites—to skip or delay doses to maximize appetites for the feast.

“It’s almost like I’m training—the opposite of how an athlete would train,” says Langer, 47, a founder of a public relations agency. “I’m training so that I can eat more on Thanksgiving.”

I fucking hate fat people.

[Grape Ape]

They say the weight lost is like almost half muscle in people who don't lift. This really should be taken with PEDs IMO. Many of you probably saw about the trials of Ozempic stacked with myostatin inhibitors. Muscle actually went up, but the sides might be bad, hard to tell yet. We know what low dose steroids do, relatively benign. Say 200mg of test a week. In forced bed rest on catabolic thyroid meds 200mg Test added 2kg of muscle in about 3 or 4 weeks, where the control group lost muscle.

Look at Retatrutide as a better alternative, it's the rage among "PED influencers" right now.

Speaking of fat loss. I had an extremely dramatic fat loss recently without trying. I had lost weight involuntarily in recent months. Just came home from the hospital after having my gallbladder removed. Now I naturally sit at >20% BF. Imagine my shock at the hospital when they tell me they can't give me subcutaneous injections in the belly because there's no fat there, they had to shoot in my thigh! Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine a situation like this, I would've assumed getting to this bodyfat would take a year of hard deprivation dieting. Appetite has been down but I've consciously drank sugar sodas, like 10+ cans a day, and as much fat as I could tolerate. And obviously protein, lots of RTDs throughout the day. A couple of cooked meals, again as fatty and unhealthy as possible.

Saw a podcast with a compound pharmacist who CLAIMED they combine their semiglutide with IGF-1 or something and there was minimal muscle loss.  Also claimed folks take WAY to much to start, and they offer a more tailored approach, started with much lower doses and increasing if necessary, rather than going in with the "normal" dose right off the bat.

[Raymondo]

Robbie Williams claims Mounjaro is making him 'blind' but singer plans to stay on weight loss jab
https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/robbie-williams-mounjaro-blind-singer-weight-loss-jab

I think I speak for the rest of the UK getbiggers when I say fuck Robbie Williams

[J. Richards]

another crutch that fails in the end...

[Van_Bilderass]

Can you write a bit more on the pancreatitis? What caused it? Were there any warning signs if so what were they?

Last december I suddenly got 10/10 pain in my stomach very suddenly.  Screamed like an idiot in my apartment until paramedics came 40 minutes later, neighbors were knocking to see wtf was going on, embarrassing. Acute pancreatitis. Usually it's caused by alcohol, without checking I think in like 90% of cases. Although I love rec drugs, don't have the budget to really do a lot of them them though, but I haven't really drank alcohol in 20 years, believe it or not. They took that alcohol test that shows if you drink and I was negative.  Then they hypothesized it was caused by gallbladder stones, images showed a few small ones. They recommended gallbladder removal. I hesitated and I'd read that the drug bodybuilders use for liver protection TUDCA or UDCA which they use more in medicine. Suggested to doc and he immediately wrote a years script. But then I had further attacks and so I went through the surgery a few months ago. But I still have severe stomach and upper back pains periodically; I'm actually on a hospital bed right now since I had terrible pain last night. They say they don't think I have pancreatitis as such right now. I had 3 cysts on my pancreas instead a few months ago and new images shows there's one small cyst that seems to be self-destroying. I have this fluid IV in my arm after which I can go home. Some drugs can cause pancreatitis, like the Ozempic and looking at lists I see estrogen as listed as one too. So there might be a PED connection, hard to say. I'm playing witch doctor and taking mega dosed melatonin and methylene blue and other antioxidants that may protect the pancreas. Exogenous insulin too to theoretically take some load off the organ, plus it's an antioxidant as well. Repeated pancreatitis damages the pancreas which then leads to diabetes.

[joswift]

Last december I suddenly got 10/10 pain in my stomach very suddenly.  Screamed like an idiot in my apartment until paramedics came 40 minutes later, neighbors were knocking to see wtf was going on, embarrassing. Acute pancreatitis.
Usually it's caused by alcohol, without checking I think in like 90% of cases.
Although I love rec drugs, don't have the budget to really do a lot of them them though, but I haven't really drank alcohol in 20 years, believe it or not.
They took that alcohol test that shows if you drink and I was negative. 
Then they hypothesized it was caused by gallbladder stones, images showed a few small ones.
They recommended gallbladder removal. I hesitated and I'd read that the drug bodybuilders use for liver protection TUDCA or UDCA which they use more in medicine.
Suggested to doc and he immediately wrote a years script.
But then I had further attacks and so I went through the surgery a few months ago.
But I still have severe stomach and upper back pains periodically; I'm actually on a hospital bed right now since I had terrible pain last night.
They say they don't think I have pancreatitis as such right now.
I had 3 cysts on my pancreas instead a few months ago and new images shows there's one small cyst that seems to be self-destroying.
I have this fluid IV in my arm after which I can go home.
Some drugs can cause pancreatitis, like the Ozempic and looking at lists I see estrogen as listed as one too. So there might be a PED connection, hard to say.
I'm playing witch doctor and taking mega dosed melatonin and methylene blue and other antioxidants that may protect the pancreas.
Exogenous insulin too to theoretically take some load off the organ, plus it's an antioxidant as well.
Repeated pancreatitis damages the pancreas which then leads to diabetes.

fixed, people might read it now

[WrongAdvices]

You seem to be a walking pharmacy. What is everything you’re on right now?

[joswift]

You seem to be a walking pharmacy. What is everything you’re on right now?

Rons going to have to delete the random pics thread to get the bandwith to load up his response