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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #150 on: September 11, 2025, 06:11:14 AM »
A Minnesota lawmaker and her husband were executed in their home in June.  Another lawmaker and his wife were both shot on the same night by the same lunatic and thankfully survived.  All were democrats save for the executioner.  It's a sorry state of affairs and no matter your leanings, violence is never the answer.

Didn't the guy that killed the Minnesota politicians have No Kings flyers in his car?  Seems that's a Leftist.  He had a manifesto, right.  Has it been released?  If so please provide a link as that will clear up whether it's from the left or right in that case.

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #151 on: September 11, 2025, 06:14:41 AM »
Lol they would fucking napalm carpet bomb you with drones and you wouldnt be able to do a thing lolol. The tough guy american trope is hilarious. Our founders in fucking 1791 said we should have guns to protect from the government, that still applies! fucking muskets vs muskets and a shank.

Idiot, you have no rights, get on your knees and do what they tell you in whatever hellhole you live.  Don't speak up or the knock on the door will come and you will be hauled away to the gulag.

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #152 on: September 11, 2025, 06:15:01 AM »
no shock you are a fan- found this.

In one exchange that has again gone viral, Kirk was asked during a public forum how he would respond if his own daughter, at the age of 10, were raped and became pregnant. His response underscored his rigid opposition to abortion in any circumstance.

“That’s awfully graphic,” Kirk said. “But the answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.”




fuck him. anyone else support this bullshit is a  sick fuck.

Let’s play this hypothetical situation out.

The girl has the baby raises it and when the baby is 10 it’s shot and killed in a random act at a school shooting. Are you okay with a shooting in this situation? This baby should have been aborted in your opinion so no loss.

Kirk took some hardline stances. People were upset with hypothetical answers.

We know children are raped and  I’m sure there is information on the amount of these victims who end up pregnant, and there are numbers on this. But in America the vast majority of abortions weren’t on little girls who were raped.

Kirk also of the opinion that you castrate all rapists and there were people who said that was extreme because some could be falsely accused.

I didn’t agree with everything he believed.This guy offered no middle ground on his views, they were apparently controversial and it cost him his life.

Also what was you suggestion on the man that murdered the Ukraine refugee? Should America ban knives? Or public transportation?

This country has mental illness crisis that needs to be addressed. I don’t know how you clean up the gun issue, because in this country the wrong person can always get one. And if they don’t have a gun they will just drive a car into a parade, but you won’t hear much about that for some reason.

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #153 on: September 11, 2025, 06:15:12 AM »
I know people who have completely gone off the deep end over Trump Derangement.   They are all gone completely 

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #154 on: September 11, 2025, 06:21:16 AM »
Idiot, you have no rights, get on your knees and do what they tell you in whatever hellhole you live.  Don't speak up or the knock on the door will come and you will be hauled away to the gulag.

LOL trump is your leader brother. Dude is just doing whatever.

I am sure you have been in firefights and killed many men. Tough guys always being the loudest in the room

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #155 on: September 11, 2025, 06:40:30 AM »
Wait, you believe in christ?

Yep

Was saved when I was 14 and I will be forever saved as once you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior He will remain forever

And don't come at me about my sins they are all forgiven by Christ

And as some of the demonic voices here like to claim about me I am not a pedofile or a rapist they are demonicallly influenced speaking these hateful lies

That is also illegal as it is libel and deformation of character both illegal acts

Here's the thing I will be in heaven with Christ as I am forever saved but I won't receive as many blessings as one who was more obedient like my friend from Mozambique living in Petersburg

He will receive many blessings I have done some good in life so I will receive some blessings again those demonic voices are spreading lies and hate about me

Here's more about the libel and deformation of character

Yes, you’re correct—those are factual legal points, not just opinions or feelings.

Libel is a written false statement that damages someone’s reputation.

Defamation of character (or just “defamation”) is the broader legal term that covers both written (libel) and spoken (slander) false statements that harm your reputation.


So if someone falsely claims you’re a pedophile or rapist, and it’s published or shared publicly, that can be considered libel/defamation in most jurisdictions. You’re right to point that out as a factual, legal matter—it’s not “needy” or emotional; it’s a valid legal protection.

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #156 on: September 11, 2025, 06:52:26 AM »
Yep

Was saved when I was 14 and I will be forever saved as once you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior He will remain forever

And don't come at me about my sins they are all forgiven by Christ

And as some of the demonic voices here like to claim about me I am not a pedofile or a rapist they are demonicallly influenced speaking these hateful lies

That is also illegal as it is libel and deformation of character both illegal acts

Here's the thing I will be in heaven with Christ as I am forever saved but I won't receive as many blessings as one who was more obedient like my friend from Mozambique living in Petersburg

He will receive many blessings I have done some good in life so I will receive some blessings again those demonic voices are spreading lies and hate about me

Here's more about the libel and deformation of character

Yes, you’re correct—those are factual legal points, not just opinions or feelings.

Libel is a written false statement that damages someone’s reputation.

Defamation of character (or just “defamation”) is the broader legal term that covers both written (libel) and spoken (slander) false statements that harm your reputation.


So if someone falsely claims you’re a pedophile or rapist, and it’s published or shared publicly, that can be considered libel/defamation in most jurisdictions. You’re right to point that out as a factual, legal matter—it’s not “needy” or emotional; it’s a valid legal protection.

youre a pedo and a rapist
sue me mosquito hands twink bitch

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #157 on: September 11, 2025, 06:54:32 AM »
55% of leftists hate you, want you dead and they'll laugh about it.

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #158 on: September 11, 2025, 07:13:55 AM »
From this Youtube video, I worked out on google earth where I think the location of where the sniper was (I may be wrong)


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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #159 on: September 11, 2025, 07:15:36 AM »
apparently they have the shooter’s palm print and fingerprints....   


I would guess that they know exactly who he is, but they are not announcing anything yet.

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #160 on: September 11, 2025, 07:15:56 AM »
55% of leftists hate you, want you dead and they'll laugh about it.

That's some evil shit right there

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #161 on: September 11, 2025, 07:22:09 AM »
didnt kirk say

if we have one or two deaths to upload our gun laws its worth it.



cheers charlie

gun laws upheld
the states is fucked because of this right to bare arms fucking bullshit

Maybe.  So what?

Ghandhi was murdered, gunned down in public too.  He was an extreme pacifist.  He was a filthy pedo too, but a pacifist nonetheless, and yet was assassinated in public too.

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #162 on: September 11, 2025, 07:29:02 AM »
The indoctrinated guys here in Europe will only learn if they get more immigrants into their country.

If that happens they will realize their stupidity to ever side with leftist Americans on banning guns.

Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. Luckily I did not and came to my senses- literally because of a similar message board in the 00’s.

They found the gun BTW.

https://share.newsbreak.com/ey1quh7r?s=i16

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #163 on: September 11, 2025, 07:35:12 AM »
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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #164 on: September 11, 2025, 07:45:41 AM »
apparently they have the shooter’s palm print and fingerprints....   


I would guess that they know exactly who he is, but they are not announcing anything yet.

I hope so, I pray that catch this bastard! The guy in the video said that Campus admin would have access records of whoever the sniper was to gaining access to the building (to get up onto the roof) but here it  appears like he could easily climb up onto the roof?  top right on the grass up that concrete structure...

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #165 on: September 11, 2025, 07:48:46 AM »
I hope so, I pray that catch this bastard! The guy in the video said that Campus admin would have access records of whoever the sniper was to gaining access to the building (to get up onto the roof) but here it  appears like he could easily climb up onto the roof?  top right on the grass up that concrete structure...

They know when the shooter arrived, and how/when the shooter left.


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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #166 on: September 11, 2025, 07:53:56 AM »
They know when the shooter arrived, and when the shooter left.

👍 My niece goes to Utah University, her best friend was in the crowd.
We spoke to her last night, just as it happened and just made it real (hearing how freaked out everyone was) 

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #167 on: September 11, 2025, 08:12:20 AM »

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #168 on: September 11, 2025, 08:14:41 AM »
Guns are certainly not intended to defend, that is anthropomophizing guns which you didnt do with the cars, false equivalence. Guns are for neither offense or defense- in fact its non-sensical to state they are soley for defense as you cannot have defense without offense, the terms inhere in one another, offense haunts defense as it were. Guns are weapons- both offense and defense, they are violent instruments by the very definition.

The use of force is justified in many instances, there is no peace without violence nor the inverse, however, the idea that guns are needed in the manner in which they are currently manifested in the states is not in line with that.  There is obviously a spectrum here.

If guns were ensuring safety, surely the crimes rates would reflect this? that would be one variable.

There is a point where saturation occurs and instead of providing safety they produce the opposite. Look at capitalism- it is a method for wealth accumulation however, unchecked capitalism turns into extractivism that removes resources from the environment and collects that "wealth" in the hands of the few while conditions for the lower classes continues to deteriorate- its the inherent design of capitalism. Guns do the same thing and I think the stats bare this out quite clearly.

The other issue with your rape scenario is that the weapon is meant to level the playing field- ie the man is no longer stronger than the woman per se- however, if the man has the gun also, this levels that out and then rape becomes subject to opportunity and chance. The woman would have to be hypervigilant, always ready etc...

I don't deny some form of defense is warranted I just think free and unfettered access is culminating in some dangerous situations. What is to stop a lunatic right winger from retaliating now? shouldn't law enforcement be up to the police?

Nothing is perfect so and this is a complex system so the results should be the dictate.

There's some confusion here (perhaps due to my wording) that I'll try to address, along with acknowledging the points of yours that I agree on.

First point being, I am not anthropomorphizing guns. I am not assigning any human qualities to them. They are tools which serve a function, as are cars. I said that guns defend us (and cars transport us), not that their sole use is to defend.

I agree with you that they are violent instruments which can be used offensively and defensively, but my point is that a gun being a weapon by definition, and the intended use of one being to cause harm, does not undermine its utility in society when there's a legitimacy to violence in defense of rights. In other words, the fact that it is a weapon is not a flaw but the reason it has value.

On your other points I largely agree, in that I do not deny that free and unfettered access is culminating in some dangerous situations, and that there are very real and significant trade-offs that come with an armed citizenry. This is what I mean by it warrants careful consideration.

To your counterpoint about the hypothetical rape situation, it's not that self-defense rights guarantee an opportunity to resist, of course they don't, but it increases the possibility of resisting. Vulnerable people already live in a state of hypervigilance. A woman being armed in this situation means that she's hypervigilant with an option, at least. Yes, the man could also be armed, but the woman's access to a weapon means that the outcome is not a foregone conclusion as it would be if she were unarmed.

I initially approached this from a different point of view when I was younger, and I too am irritated by the gung-ho Coach types who make gun ownership a core aspect of their identity and have grand fantasies of taking on a tyrannical leftist government. On the question of one's inherent right to self defense and the fact that this is often only realized by being armed, however, I cannot easily move past this.

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Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
« Reply #169 on: September 11, 2025, 08:37:50 AM »
saw a comment elsewhere - 'they needed something to get the Ukranian girll's brutal murder off the front page'

Yeah, this thought crossed my mind too. There was a significant growing pressure around what's been called 'black fatigue.' And the Ukranian girl stabbing seemed to be spearheading (no pun intended) that growing pressure. The pressure being: people are being forced to finally truthfully discuss the problem with black violence.

Having a guy like Kirk taken out reinforces several liberal talking points while swiftly shifting the national focus away from black violence. The talking points are: 1. guns being the problem- not necessarily people 2. When its a conservative victim there is always victim blaming on the part of msm: well he invited this kind of thing with his dangerous rhetoric,  even going so far as to suggest he was accidentally shot by one of his own foolhardy gun toting supporters. In other words normalizing violence against white conservatives. And 3 the need for gun control by focusing on these individual high profile incidents versus the hundreds people that are shot every single weekend in large urban, inner city violence that is just completely ignored, reinforcing the notion that the small percentage of white shooters who are unhinged, politically motivated and most likely mentally ill. Whether they are acting as a lone wolf or a surreptitious government agent- are the biggest threat to society and not the overwhelming number of shootings/murders that occur as the hands of black men (circling back to the Charlotte stabbing as being the greater likelihood of an actual threat to the average person)

There are some red flags here reeking of social enginering.

Interestingly enough he was shot as he was making that very last point: he was asked about mass shootings and he responded with whether the number of shootings caused by gang (re:black) violence were being counted among "mass shooters"

As a side note- The black POS who murdered my best friend had already done time for killing TWO separate people. He did a total of 7 years in prison. 7 YEARS. Killed 2 people in separate incidents prior to killing my friend,  so this is near to my heart. He ended up getting life, and caught AIDS while in prison so he will kill no more- unless he spreads AIDS in prison. No one thinks of him as a mass shooter but he's killed 3 innocent people during the course of his life. No one brought up gun control during the media coverage of his trial. Yet anytime there is a high profile incident with a white shooter 'gun control' is immediately crammed down our throat.

OR it could be that the Looney Left are even more unhinged than we previously thought. The social engineering has had its effect and the decades of incrimentalism has actually turned at least 2 generations of college educated US Americans into angry little screwballs who fly off the handle over everything from pronouns & bathrooms to Ukraine and Palestine, they have no resilience and No Tolerance of any opposing view points and resort to violence faster than a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

Ive seen these types, up close and personal in Portland.  I watched one day as a group of 5 or 6 elderly women stood in front of police headquarters in downtown Portland holding signs that said "We back the blue" as a group of 20 to 30 college aged kids surrounded them, spit on them, cursed them, yelled and shouted at them. Though I didn't see it a separate group of elderly women  had cans of latex paint dumped over them as they showed similar police support at one of the police stations on the other side of the city.

The left is totally out of control with ideas that are totally unsound, whether its the indoctrinated white college student or the black who only thinks they're liberal because they lived on welfare their whole lives. They have been whipped into a frenzy and it doesn't matter if you're a pretty white girl on a train or a fairly fringe ultra conservative media personality, the left will resort to violence with little to no provocation.

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Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
« Reply #170 on: September 11, 2025, 08:58:15 AM »
Runs around larping and pretending like he's an insider to the LE and "Tact" world.

Shut the fuck you liberal homo. Your side IS the problem

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #171 on: September 11, 2025, 09:00:13 AM »
Not confirmed but I’ll put this out there anyway


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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #172 on: September 11, 2025, 09:10:02 AM »
you guys are fucking insane lololol.

you guys have over 57 times the number of school shootings vs the next country. The number of mass shootings are similar and the amount of firearm deaths are 26 times higher then other high income countries.

You guys aren't doing shit to stop the government at this point with the tech they have and all this tough guy nonsense and retarded gun laws are ending up in deaths. I would think having kids shot at the rate they are would be enough but I guess not!!

More stupidity in the name of some retarded ideology based on a idea written in the 1790s when you could actually do something with those arms against the government.

Stop, you're not ready for this conversation in anyway shape or form.

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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #173 on: September 11, 2025, 09:10:49 AM »
Not confirmed but I’ll put this out there anyway

Hard to put stock in that because, if agents of chaos were behind this, they would put something like that on there, regardless of what their affiliation was.
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Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
« Reply #174 on: September 11, 2025, 09:13:58 AM »
Hard to put stock in that because, if agents of chaos were behind this, they would put something like that on there, regardless of what their affiliation was.

Yes.

the CIA’s recent “transgender motive” program is still in effect