Are a bit of steroids good for you or is any amount going to cut your life short

[joswift]

Steroids, the cause of, and solution to, all lifes problems.

[Donny]

who wants shrunken balls ?

[NaturalWonder83]

I have questions for people who use steroids.

If you could please provide feedback so perhaps the negative stigma of steroids could be lessened. Again, I have no issues with steroids.

1. Do they eliminate the need for pre-workouts? Do you feel energized and fired up 24/7?
2. Did they help you overcome a fear of needles (if you had a fear of needles)? If so, then that could definitely be a strong selling point that is overlooked by the mainstream.
3. Are you sick of having to use needles all the time? Or has it become 2nd nature, such as taking out the recycling or wiping down your kitchen countertop with a Clorox wipe (toxins)?
4. Do you feel the negative dangers of steroids are not justified? Everything in the world seems to be harmful. Why the specific hate against steroids when people choose to partake in drinking, eating junk food, smoking, or breathing in pollution? Steroids don't seem any worse then everything we are subjected to in daily life.
5. Are negative side effects caused by poor quality steroids, user error, or your specific body chemistry not able to handle the specific steroids you are using? And if this is the case...and then if you try other types of steroids...and the same thing happens... perhaps then, steroids are not for you? And if you keep using them, then you're just adding to the unfair stigma of steoids being dangerous?

[joswift]

who wants shrunken balls ?

[joswift]

I have questions for people who use steroids.

If you could please provide feedback so perhaps the negative stigma of steroids could be lessened. Again, I have no issues with steroids.

1. Do they eliminate the need for pre-workouts? Do you feel energized and fired up 24/7?
2. Did they help you overcome a fear of needles (if you had a fear of needles)? If so, then that could definitely be a strong selling point that is overlooked by the mainstream.
3. Are you sick of having to use needles all the time? Or has it become 2nd nature, such as taking out the recycling or wiping down your kitchen countertop with a Clorox wipe (toxins)?
4. Do you feel the negative dangers of steroids are not justified? Everything in the world seems to be harmful. Why the specific hate against steroids when people choose to partake in drinking, eating junk food, smoking, or breathing in pollution? Steroids don't seem any worse then everything we are subjected to in daily life.
5. Are negative side effects caused by poor quality steroids, user error, or your specific body chemistry not able to handle the specific steroids you are using? And if this is the case...and then if you try other types of steroids...and the same thing happens... perhaps then, steroids are not for you? And if you keep using them, then you're just adding to the unfair stigma of steoids being dangerous?

1.no
2. no
3.didnt abuse , three times a week max
4. "not justified" question now too confusing.
5. shit gear causes problems, good gear can cause you problems due to its toxicity

[Donny]

 

[NaturalWonder83]

1.no
2. no
3.didnt abuse , three times a week max
4. "not justified" question now too confusing.
5. shit gear causes problems, good gear can cause you problems due to its toxicity

Well, thank you for the answers. I think people can do what they want and you still need to train hard and eat well to get results. Appreciate it.

[IroNat]

No, steroids and most drugs are not good for you.
It should be obvious by now.

Use common sense if you have any.

If you are trying to rationalize whether to use or continue to use steroids it is just that...a rationalization.

[BigRo]

who wants shrunken balls ?

thanks for offering but I will pass.

[Van_Bilderass]

I have questions for people who use steroids.

Steroids can give you overall energy but can also zap it. Some ateroids are like sleeping pills to me e.g.  Anadrol and Dianabol.

I've seen many cases where the first  injection almost caused a panic attack. After that they insisted on diing it themselves.

Injecting gets very emotionally taxing flr heavy users many times. It's not really a big time consuming thing but they start to hate even seeing the syringes after a while. Even the insulin and GH injection they complain about and it takes 2 seconds and you can't even feel it.

Constant steroids are potentially dangerous in the long run, I'm talking decades. A couple of 8 week cycles a year is nothing really "dangerous " The damage accumulates.

Even the so-called bathtub steroids are pretty safe, provided the raw steroid powder they use is the correct steroid and not contaminated. It's an easy process done at home. I've never done it but you preferably need a magnetic stirrer, preferably a heated one, a glass beaker, the raw steroid, the solvents benzyl alcohol abd benzyl benzoate  once mixed you run it thrhough a filter into enmpty 10ml bottles. The filter sterilizes it. Done

I always say steroids can improve and damage health at the same time. They can add years and quality of life and they can lead to an early grave.
Dan Duchaine used to say everyone should do an 8 week cycle a year just for health lol.

[funk51]

Do whatever makes you happy, you only go around once, but remember muscles are only rented.................. ........................ ........ unless you believe in reincarnation.

[MajorDomo]

Unless you are a competitive bodybuilder or you suffer from a debilitating disease, you don't need to be taking steroids. The cost-benefit isn't there.

if you are getting old and need affirmation from your friends or young women, spend your money on therapy instead.

[Van_Bilderass]

The cost-benefit isn't there.

Would you say some test and GH from an HRT clinic can never lean more towards benefit. Like post-menopausal women sometimes taking estrogen, and now increasingly testosterone too.

[NaturalWonder83]

Steroids can give you overall energy but can also zap it. Some ateroids are like sleeping pills to me e.g.  Anadrol and Dianabol.

I've seen many cases where the first  injection almost caused a panic attack. After that they insisted on diing it themselves.

Injecting gets very emotionally taxing flr heavy users many times. It's not really a big time consuming thing but they start to hate even seeing the syringes after a while. Even the insulin and GH injection they complain about and it takes 2 seconds and you can't even feel it.

Constant steroids are potentially dangerous in the long run, I'm talking decades. A couple of 8 week cycles a year is nothing really "dangerous " The damage accumulates.

Even the so-called bathtub steroids are pretty safe, provided the raw steroid powder they use is the correct steroid and not contaminated. It's an easy process done at home. I've never done it but you preferably need a magnetic stirrer, preferably a heated one, a glass beaker, the raw steroid, the solvents benzyl alcohol abd benzyl benzoate  once mixed you run it thrhough a filter into enmpty 10ml bottles. The filter sterilizes it. Done

I always say steroids can improve and damage health at the same time. They can add years and quality of life and they can lead to an early grave.
Dan Duchaine used to say everyone should do an 8 week cycle a year just for health lol.

Thank you very much for taking the time to provide such a detailed response w/ your insights. Much appreciated.

[BigRo]

I have questions for people who use steroids.

If you could please provide feedback so perhaps the negative stigma of steroids could be lessened. Again, I have no issues with steroids.

1. Do they eliminate the need for pre-workouts? Do you feel energized and fired up 24/7?
2. Did they help you overcome a fear of needles (if you had a fear of needles)? If so, then that could definitely be a strong selling point that is overlooked by the mainstream.
3. Are you sick of having to use needles all the time? Or has it become 2nd nature, such as taking out the recycling or wiping down your kitchen countertop with a Clorox wipe (toxins)?
4. Do you feel the negative dangers of steroids are not justified? Everything in the world seems to be harmful. Why the specific hate against steroids when people choose to partake in drinking, eating junk food, smoking, or breathing in pollution? Steroids don't seem any worse then everything we are subjected to in daily life.
5. Are negative side effects caused by poor quality steroids, user error, or your specific body chemistry not able to handle the specific steroids you are using? And if this is the case...and then if you try other types of steroids...and the same thing happens... perhaps then, steroids are not for you? And if you keep using them, then you're just adding to the unfair stigma of steoids being dangerous?

Are you a lifetime natural? Are you thinking about taking steroids?

1) No you will still need to double scoop pre workout for maximal results.

2) Yes for me I was a little "afraid" but it soon passed.

3) You can get away with doing it once a week or less for trt.

4) Justified or "not justified"? I would say used reasonably, intelligently with breaks even on trt it can be better than alot of those other things, certainty healthier than having to deal with annoying people lol. But if a man can keep his test levels high naturally I would say that is a better approach.

5) Don't take too much, don't look up to the pros they are retards.

[njflex]

Are you a lifetime natural? Are you thinking about taking steroids?

1) No you will still need to double scoop pre workout for maximal results.

2) Yes for me I was a little "afraid" but it soon passed.

3) You can get away with doing it once a week or less for trt.

4) Justified or "not justified"? I would say used reasonably, intelligently with breaks even on trt it can be better than alot of those other things, certainty healthier than having to deal with annoying people lol. But if a man can keep his test levels high naturally I would say that is a better approach.

5) Don't take too much, don't look up to the pros they are retards.

AMEN,,AND JOSWIFT ,WES,,,RO.SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR PROS AND CONS..

[wes]

Just remember kids,a bucket of gear a day,keeps the coroners in coin.  ; D

I never relied on gear but did approach high amounts as a contest neared.....stayed there a few weeks and would then taper off for the last week or so.

I trained my guts out,never missed a day unless I was dead,and ate like a Spartan.

We overtrained, but that was how we were taught and anything less would have been considered wimpy !!

[MAXX]

Are you a lifetime natural? Are you thinking about taking steroids?

1) No you will still need to double scoop pre workout for maximal results.

2) Yes for me I was a little "afraid" but it soon passed.

3) You can get away with doing it once a week or less for trt.

4) Justified or "not justified"? I would say used reasonably, intelligently with breaks even on trt it can be better than alot of those other things, certainty healthier than having to deal with annoying people lol. But if a man can keep his test levels high naturally I would say that is a better approach.

5) Don't take too much, don't look up to the pros they are retards.

higher frequency like every other day is alot better because when you have spikes(from one big shot a week) you convert alot more to estrogen as far as I understand.

[MAXX]

probably will shorten your life somewhat even high "TRT"

Men naturally have shorter lifespan than women becuase men are more suceptible to heart disease due to higher testosterone. So raise this to supra levels and you will likely do worse.

[Methyl m1ke]

Is 160mg week TRT or is that a cycle? I go to my doctor and do regular bloodwork so as of now I’m still good. I think I’d be a wreck for a bit if I came off of it, as I’ve been on it for 7-8 years. I can’t imagine natural would come back in my mid 40’s.

Sounds like try to me

[Methyl m1ke]

probably will shorten your life somewhat even high "TRT"

Men naturally have shorter lifespan than women becuase men are more suceptible to heart disease due to higher testosterone. So raise this to supra levels and you will likely do worse.

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Higher testosterone is not the problem it is the test to estrogen ratio you don't want to fuck up

[Van_Bilderass]

When I say they can be healthy and unhealthy at the same time, I mean for example when you are old, strength and muscle can protect you in case of illness. If you're frail and weak and have no muscle you will wither away to nothing faster. They might make your bones stronger along with the weight lifting, I think over 70s who break a hip or leg 90 percent of them die within 6 months. It's not uncommon for docs to say your physique saved you from dying from an accident. There are many other situations where steroids can keep you from dying, and obviously they are used to recover from things like burns. One indication for Anavar is anorexia or low bodyweight.

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Higher testosterone is not the problem it is the test to estrogen ratio you don't want to fuck up

Not to be argumentative but there's a debate among steroid "experts" on what to do with high estrogen. Some say let it go where ever it goes on steroids, the estrogen should go up. Others say you should control it via Antiestrogens or by adding steroids such as Primo, Mast, EQ etc. Everyone agrees that low estrogen is very detrimental to health. Some claim the reliance on aromatase inhibitors will cause various health problems as estrogen is cardioprotective, brain protective and so on. One fella on 2 or 3 grams of test and by adding like 800mg of EQ his estrogen was zero! One misunderstanding many have is that water retention from steroids ís caused by estrogen only. Even something like tren can cause water retention. I'm not sure an aromatase is ever a good idea on true TRT; at least you can debate it.

[Humble Narcissist]

probably will shorten your life somewhat even high "TRT"

Men naturally have shorter lifespan than women becuase men are more suceptible to heart disease due to higher testosterone. So raise this to supra levels and you will likely do worse.

The problem with TRT is if you get on it you better stay on it for life or you are going to crash hard coming off it.

[AbrahamG]

As long as one keeps their TRT to 500mg's or less per week there is probably no reason to worry.

[oldgolds]

Don't worry about it...All of the thousands of bodybuilders and wrestlers that have died early had genetic predispositions for various heart, liver  and kidney diseases.