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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2300 on: May 13, 2026, 08:19:00 AM »
Ahh Pronoun Boy.

Fuck off Idiot -
And I was talking to the organ grinder not his stupid Monkey

You are too old to lack this much wisdom and equanimity. I assume you have impaired executive functioning and a low iq.

Carry on.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2301 on: May 13, 2026, 08:23:36 AM »
I take it then you were perfectly happy with him bombing so many
Because his Congress approved   ::)   FFS !!

I missed this. Is Lurker one of the conspiracy theorists on here that thinks Trump needed a congressional vote to go in?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2302 on: May 13, 2026, 08:31:11 AM »
I take it then you were perfectly happy with him bombing so many
Because his Congress approved   ::)   FFS !!
He bombed 7 countries without congressional approval. Were the getlibbers posting up crying about it?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2303 on: May 13, 2026, 09:15:20 AM »
I take it then you were perfectly happy with him bombing so many
Because his Congress approved   ::)   FFS !!

Absolutely.  And because of the accurate intelligence.  Something you seem to have a problem with.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2304 on: May 13, 2026, 09:16:31 AM »
He bombed 7 countries without congressional approval. Were the getlibbers posting up crying about it?

As your superior already pointed out, this is a war, not a bombing.  Try again, cry again... won't make a difference.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2305 on: May 13, 2026, 09:35:41 AM »
As your superior already pointed out, this is a war, not a bombing.  Try again, cry again... won't make a difference.

Once again, are you saying he needed a congressional vote to go in???

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2306 on: May 13, 2026, 09:47:43 AM »
Did we win this thing yet or struggling mightily? The public perception by most that aren’t brainwashed MAGA cultist is that Israel dragged a former reality show host into a war that he seems very uncomfortable with dealing with. America will most likely walk away from this thing looking weaker than when they entered.

Still struggling mightily.

We already look weaker now than when we started. Before this, few imagined Iran could close the Strait for two months, hit our bases, and have us negotiating our way back to the old status quo.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2307 on: May 13, 2026, 10:19:01 AM »
Still struggling mightily.

We already look weaker now than when we started. Before this, few imagined Iran could close the Strait for two months, hit our bases, and have us negotiating our way back to the old status quo.

I feared something like this would happen after the 1st missile strike over the summer. You know, the one that supposedly disarmed their nuclear program (but didn’t)


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2309 on: May 13, 2026, 11:59:10 AM »
Once again, are you saying he needed a congressional vote to go in???

You need Congressional approval for war. 

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2310 on: May 13, 2026, 01:18:54 PM »
You need Congressional approval for war.

The primary reasons cited for President Trump not needing prior congressional approval for the U.S. military strikes on Iran (launched jointly with Israel around February 28, 2026, targeting nuclear facilities and related sites in what the administration called a limited operation) center on longstanding presidential authority, historical precedent, and the nature of the action.

Key arguments include:

•  Presidential authority for “important national interests” in limited operations: The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinions across Democratic and Republican administrations (including Clinton, Obama, and Trump) have consistently held that the president can act unilaterally if the operation serves key U.S. interests and does not rise to the level of a full “war” (defined as prolonged, substantial engagements with high risk to U.S. forces over time). The Iran strikes were framed as targeted, limited-scope actions against nuclear sites (e.g., Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan), not an open-ended invasion. This mirrors precedents like Clinton’s 1995 Bosnia air campaign (over 2,300 sorties in two weeks) and Obama’s 2011 Libya operation (hundreds of missiles), both done without prior approval.

•  War Powers Resolution (1973) permits initial action: This law requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours (which the administration did via briefings to the “Gang of Eight” and committees) and allows up to 60 days of operations before needing approval (or withdrawal). Courts have shown deference to presidents on this “vague standard,” and the resolution is often viewed as an unconstitutional limit on executive power anyway. Congress can vote to restrict or end it later.

•  No specific congressional prohibition + implicit support: Over 20+ years, Congress never passed laws barring force against Iran’s nuclear ambitions. In fact, the House passed a 2023 bipartisan resolution (354-53) stating it is U.S. policy to “use all means necessary” to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Funding appropriations have also sustained such operations. If Congress opposed it strongly, it could have acted proactively (or can still pass new limits).

•  Imminent self-defense and national security threats: Iran’s nuclear dash, proxy attacks (killing/maiming Americans via roadside bombs and more), and “Death to America” rhetoric created a direct threat. The strikes also supported collective self-defense for Israel under international law. Some also referenced the 2001 AUMF (still in effect and unrepealed) as potentially covering Iran as an al-Qaeda harborer.

•  Decades of bipartisan precedent: Prior presidents (both parties) have conducted similar strikes without approval. Federal courts have largely stayed out, declining to block such actions.

In short, these sources view the strikes as a classic exercise of executive foreign policy and defense powers for a time-sensitive, non-“war” operation against a clear adversary—consistent with how U.S. presidents have operated for decades.

The Trump administration did inform (or attempt to inform) the Gang of Eight prior to the U.S.-Israeli strikes on Iran on February 28, 2026. 
According to multiple reports:

•  White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt stated that Secretary of State Marco Rubio called all members of the Gang of Eight to provide congressional notification prior to the attacks. He reached and briefed seven of the eight members.

•  House Speaker Mike Johnson (a member of the Gang of Eight) confirmed that the group was briefed in detail earlier in the week about the possibility of military action to protect U.S. troops and interests. He received updates from Secretary Rubio afterward. 

•  Rubio reached out by phone and text shortly before the operation began, consistent with the administration’s approach to congressional notification under the War Powers Resolution (which requires notification within 48 hours of action, but here they provided advance heads-up to key leaders).

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2311 on: May 13, 2026, 01:23:54 PM »
The primary reasons cited for President Trump not needing prior congressional approval for the U.S. military strikes on Iran (launched jointly with Israel around February 28, 2026, targeting nuclear facilities and related sites in what the administration called a limited operation) center on longstanding presidential authority, historical precedent, and the nature of the action.

Key arguments include:

•  Presidential authority for “important national interests” in limited operations: The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinions across Democratic and Republican administrations (including Clinton, Obama, and Trump) have consistently held that the president can act unilaterally if the operation serves key U.S. interests and does not rise to the level of a full “war” (defined as prolonged, substantial engagements with high risk to U.S. forces over time). The Iran strikes were framed as targeted, limited-scope actions against nuclear sites (e.g., Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan), not an open-ended invasion. This mirrors precedents like Clinton’s 1995 Bosnia air campaign (over 2,300 sorties in two weeks) and Obama’s 2011 Libya operation (hundreds of missiles), both done without prior approval.

•  War Powers Resolution (1973) permits initial action: This law requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours (which the administration did via briefings to the “Gang of Eight” and committees) and allows up to 60 days of operations before needing approval (or withdrawal). Courts have shown deference to presidents on this “vague standard,” and the resolution is often viewed as an unconstitutional limit on executive power anyway. Congress can vote to restrict or end it later.

•  No specific congressional prohibition + implicit support: Over 20+ years, Congress never passed laws barring force against Iran’s nuclear ambitions. In fact, the House passed a 2023 bipartisan resolution (354-53) stating it is U.S. policy to “use all means necessary” to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Funding appropriations have also sustained such operations. If Congress opposed it strongly, it could have acted proactively (or can still pass new limits).

•  Imminent self-defense and national security threats: Iran’s nuclear dash, proxy attacks (killing/maiming Americans via roadside bombs and more), and “Death to America” rhetoric created a direct threat. The strikes also supported collective self-defense for Israel under international law. Some also referenced the 2001 AUMF (still in effect and unrepealed) as potentially covering Iran as an al-Qaeda harborer.

•  Decades of bipartisan precedent: Prior presidents (both parties) have conducted similar strikes without approval. Federal courts have largely stayed out, declining to block such actions.

In short, these sources view the strikes as a classic exercise of executive foreign policy and defense powers for a time-sensitive, non-“war” operation against a clear adversary—consistent with how U.S. presidents have operated for decades.

The Trump administration did inform (or attempt to inform) the Gang of Eight prior to the U.S.-Israeli strikes on Iran on February 28, 2026. 
According to multiple reports:

•  White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt stated that Secretary of State Marco Rubio called all members of the Gang of Eight to provide congressional notification prior to the attacks. He reached and briefed seven of the eight members.

•  House Speaker Mike Johnson (a member of the Gang of Eight) confirmed that the group was briefed in detail earlier in the week about the possibility of military action to protect U.S. troops and interests. He received updates from Secretary Rubio afterward. 

•  Rubio reached out by phone and text shortly before the operation began, consistent with the administration’s approach to congressional notification under the War Powers Resolution (which requires notification within 48 hours of action, but here they provided advance heads-up to key leaders).

How come you guys are losing? seems odd.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2312 on: May 13, 2026, 06:48:44 PM »
Absolutely.  And because of the accurate intelligence.  Something you seem to have a problem with.

“Accurate intelligence”???   Lol Obama’s fucking military repeatedly attacked a hospital operated by Doctors Without Borders, killing 42 and wounding dozens more.  They chalked it up to a “mistake”.  Is that what you call “accurate intelligence”?  Nevermind the hundreds of civilians he killed through all the drone strikes targeting weddings and other social gatherings.

Trump II sucks but Obama was a colossal piece of shit, too.  Don’t be a hypocrite.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2313 on: May 13, 2026, 07:31:10 PM »
How come you guys are losing? seems odd.

In what way in your delusional pea brain would even remotely have you think we’re “losing”?