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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2300 on: May 13, 2026, 07:31:10 PM »
How come you guys are losing? seems odd.

In what way in your delusional pea brain would even remotely have you think we’re “losing”?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2301 on: May 14, 2026, 03:36:00 AM »
In what way in your delusional pea brain would even remotely have you think we’re “losing”?

Just like Vietnam. They aren't fighting the way one would need them to in order to win. They are in control, obviously lol

If you already "won", why are you still there?


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2302 on: May 14, 2026, 05:58:25 AM »
The primary reasons cited for President Trump not needing prior congressional approval for the U.S. military strikes on Iran (launched jointly with Israel around February 28, 2026, targeting nuclear facilities and related sites in what the administration called a limited operation) center on longstanding presidential authority, historical precedent, and the nature of the action.

Key arguments include:

•  Presidential authority for “important national interests” in limited operations: The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinions across Democratic and Republican administrations (including Clinton, Obama, and Trump) have consistently held that the president can act unilaterally if the operation serves key U.S. interests and does not rise to the level of a full “war” (defined as prolonged, substantial engagements with high risk to U.S. forces over time). The Iran strikes were framed as targeted, limited-scope actions against nuclear sites (e.g., Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan), not an open-ended invasion. This mirrors precedents like Clinton’s 1995 Bosnia air campaign (over 2,300 sorties in two weeks) and Obama’s 2011 Libya operation (hundreds of missiles), both done without prior approval.

•  War Powers Resolution (1973) permits initial action: This law requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours (which the administration did via briefings to the “Gang of Eight” and committees) and allows up to 60 days of operations before needing approval (or withdrawal). Courts have shown deference to presidents on this “vague standard,” and the resolution is often viewed as an unconstitutional limit on executive power anyway. Congress can vote to restrict or end it later.

•  No specific congressional prohibition + implicit support: Over 20+ years, Congress never passed laws barring force against Iran’s nuclear ambitions. In fact, the House passed a 2023 bipartisan resolution (354-53) stating it is U.S. policy to “use all means necessary” to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Funding appropriations have also sustained such operations. If Congress opposed it strongly, it could have acted proactively (or can still pass new limits).

•  Imminent self-defense and national security threats: Iran’s nuclear dash, proxy attacks (killing/maiming Americans via roadside bombs and more), and “Death to America” rhetoric created a direct threat. The strikes also supported collective self-defense for Israel under international law. Some also referenced the 2001 AUMF (still in effect and unrepealed) as potentially covering Iran as an al-Qaeda harborer.

•  Decades of bipartisan precedent: Prior presidents (both parties) have conducted similar strikes without approval. Federal courts have largely stayed out, declining to block such actions.

In short, these sources view the strikes as a classic exercise of executive foreign policy and defense powers for a time-sensitive, non-“war” operation against a clear adversary—consistent with how U.S. presidents have operated for decades.

The Trump administration did inform (or attempt to inform) the Gang of Eight prior to the U.S.-Israeli strikes on Iran on February 28, 2026. 
According to multiple reports:

•  White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt stated that Secretary of State Marco Rubio called all members of the Gang of Eight to provide congressional notification prior to the attacks. He reached and briefed seven of the eight members.

•  House Speaker Mike Johnson (a member of the Gang of Eight) confirmed that the group was briefed in detail earlier in the week about the possibility of military action to protect U.S. troops and interests. He received updates from Secretary Rubio afterward. 

•  Rubio reached out by phone and text shortly before the operation began, consistent with the administration’s approach to congressional notification under the War Powers Resolution (which requires notification within 48 hours of action, but here they provided advance heads-up to key leaders).

Some little retard doesn't understand the difference between strikes (bombings) and war.  Why is no one surprised?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2303 on: May 14, 2026, 06:08:16 AM »
Absolutely.  And because of the accurate intelligence.  Something you seem to have a problem with.

Bombing innocent folk that have zero to do with America you're happy
with  ::)  Utterly charming person arent you - NOT
it's all good as long as a DummyCrap is doing it.

Please point out what accurate intelligence I have a problem with ??

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2304 on: May 14, 2026, 07:10:56 AM »
Bombing innocent folk that have zero to do with America you're happy
with  ::)  Utterly charming person arent you - NOT
it's all good as long as a DummyCrap is doing it.

Please point out what accurate intelligence I have a problem with ??

Maybe I should have said "any intelligence" in regards to you.  More fitting.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2305 on: May 14, 2026, 07:24:00 AM »
“Accurate intelligence”???   Lol Obama’s fucking military repeatedly attacked a hospital operated by Doctors Without Borders, killing 42 and wounding dozens more.  They chalked it up to a “mistake”.  Is that what you call “accurate intelligence”?  Nevermind the hundreds of civilians he killed through all the drone strikes targeting weddings and other social gatherings.

Trump II sucks but Obama was a colossal piece of shit, too.  Don’t be a hypocrite.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2306 on: May 14, 2026, 08:53:21 AM »
“Accurate intelligence”???   Lol Obama’s fucking military repeatedly attacked a hospital operated by Doctors Without Borders, killing 42 and wounding dozens more.  They chalked it up to a “mistake”.  Is that what you call “accurate intelligence”?  Nevermind the hundreds of civilians he killed through all the drone strikes targeting weddings and other social gatherings.

Trump II sucks but Obama was a colossal piece of shit, too.  Don’t be a hypocrite.

Ahhh yes.   Civilians die in war and strikes.  Sad.  But a fact.    Another sad fact is that you don't seem to understand my accurate intelligence comment is relative to why we are doing it in the first place.  WMD claims?  Well that wasn't very accurate was it?  Ask Bush.   Nuclear weapons?  That is not very accurate when we "decimated" their program a year before is it?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2307 on: May 14, 2026, 09:00:55 AM »
Ahhh yes.   Civilians die in war and strikes.  Sad.  But a fact.    Another sad fact is that you don't seem to understand my accurate intelligence comment is relative to why we are doing it in the first place.  WMD claims?  Well that wasn't very accurate was it?  Ask Bush.   Nuclear weapons?  That is not very accurate when we "decimated" their program a year before is it?

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Joe Kent: “There is zero evidence that Iran was trying to build a nuclear weapon, Netanyahu is warmongering.”

The Deputy Speaker of the Iranian Parliament: “We tried to develop nuclear weapons, but couldn't keep it secret.”

https://x.com/eyakoby/status/2034617582876303461?s=46

Even 60 Minutes was forced to admit it

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2308 on: May 14, 2026, 09:15:46 AM »
Just like Vietnam. They aren't fighting the way one would need them to in order to win. They are in control, obviously lol

If you already "won", why are you still there?

How are they “in control”?

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2054937438057898213/video/1?s=46

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2309 on: May 14, 2026, 09:26:10 AM »
Just like Vietnam. They aren't fighting the way one would need them to in order to win. They are in control, obviously lol

If you already "won", why are you still there?

Four weeks ago, CENTCOM began implementing the blockade against ships entering and exiting Iran’s ports. As of today, American forces have redirected 67 commercial vessels, allowed 15 supporting humanitarian aid to pass, and disabled 4 to ensure compliance.

Earlier this week, CENTCOM forces ensured that 2 commercial vessels turned around to comply with the blockade after communicating via radio and firing warning shots from small arms, clearly demonstrating that U.S. enforcement remains in full effect.

https://x.com/centcom/status/2054582289179296075?s=46

On the economic side, Iran is losing over $500 million per day. Their inflation is nearly at 100%. They can’t make payrolls let alone sustain a country

Remind me again how we’re “losing”?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2310 on: May 14, 2026, 09:28:08 AM »
Just like Vietnam. They aren't fighting the way one would need them to in order to win. They are in control, obviously lol

If you already "won", why are you still there?

A U.S. Air Force F-35A stealth fighter jet patrols over regional waters near the Strait of Hormuz. The F-35A can carry up to 18,000 pounds of ordnance while still flying at supersonic speeds.

https://x.com/centcom/status/2054551026347229353?s=46

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2311 on: May 14, 2026, 11:18:07 AM »
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/israel-sue-new-york-times-over-article-rape-palestinian-detainees-netanyahu-says-2026-05-14/

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Israel plans to sue The New York Times and ‌one of its journalists for defamation over an article that said Israeli soldiers, prison guards and settlers had used widespread sexual violence against Palestinian prisoners.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday he had ​instructed his legal advisers "to consider the harshest legal action" against the newspaper ​and Nicholas Kristof, a veteran journalist who reported the story from the ⁠occupied West Bank.

This will be interesting. I don't see how it is a good move for Israel to do this. It reminds me of when Melania made that denial out of the blue, it is just calling more attention to it.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2313 on: May 14, 2026, 11:44:40 AM »
Four weeks ago, CENTCOM began implementing the blockade against ships entering and exiting Iran’s ports. As of today, American forces have redirected 67 commercial vessels, allowed 15 supporting humanitarian aid to pass, and disabled 4 to ensure compliance.

Earlier this week, CENTCOM forces ensured that 2 commercial vessels turned around to comply with the blockade after communicating via radio and firing warning shots from small arms, clearly demonstrating that U.S. enforcement remains in full effect.

https://x.com/centcom/status/2054582289179296075?s=46

On the economic side, Iran is losing over $500 million per day. Their inflation is nearly at 100%. They can’t make payrolls let alone sustain a country

Remind me again how we’re “losing”?


Lol you blockaded the blockade.

So stupid it's unbelievable.

This was your plan for the war? start a blockade on top of a blockade? lolololo

Cripple the world economy and drive prices up for the next year at least. Well done. Iran still has the enriched uranium, there is no regime change, you guys now need 500 billion because of all the missiles you used and Iran posts videos mocking you daily lol.

You accomplished nothing and lost a shit ton.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2314 on: May 14, 2026, 01:35:11 PM »
Will be very interesting to see how much leverage Trump lost over China with Taiwan when they bombed Iran. Xi like Putin isn't a fan of the global double standard the US and Europe expects others to accept. You have too ask yourself after what Israel got Trump to do in Iran for them, could China convince him to sell out support for Taiwan similar. 

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2315 on: May 14, 2026, 07:45:40 PM »
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/israel-sue-new-york-times-over-article-rape-palestinian-detainees-netanyahu-says-2026-05-14/

This will be interesting. I don't see how it is a good move for Israel to do this. It reminds me of when Melania made that denial out of the blue, it is just calling more attention to it.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2316 on: May 14, 2026, 08:07:52 PM »

Lol you blockaded the blockade.

So stupid it's unbelievable.

This was your plan for the war? start a blockade on top of a blockade? lolololo

Cripple the world economy and drive prices up for the next year at least. Well done. Iran still has the enriched uranium, there is no regime change, you guys now need 500 billion because of all the missiles you used and Iran posts videos mocking you daily lol.

You accomplished nothing and lost a shit ton.

What’s your solution? lol

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2317 on: May 14, 2026, 11:53:06 PM »
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2318 on: May 15, 2026, 04:28:08 AM »
What’s your solution? lol

Well that would be assuming the reason they went there was legit, which I don't believe it was. If the initial reports were correct and they wiped out there nuclear program then I can't see how such a colossal failure of intelligence could occur where only a year later they are two weeks away when they indicated they were decades away.

Say they are that close to nuclear bombs, I would think a co-ordinated planned attack with our allies with contingencies for the straight amongst other things would have been apt. They rushed in with no plan and haven't achieved the nebulous objectives they haven't clearly elucidated. Overwhelming might with proper co-ordination and retrival of the enriched uranium (they don't appear to know where it is) with boots on the ground. I don't see how this has helped in any fashion. They don't have the uranium, they don't have a regime change and they appear to have been unprepared for the straights closure (or miscalculated).

The proper solution ime would likely be economic relief, lifting of sanctions, fostering good will and giving them something in return for reducing nuclear proliferation- that is what is going to happen now anyway. Obama's plan did at the time remove about 95% of the uranium, how that turned out is another question.I dont see how you can ask them to not have nukes when there mortal enemy does and sanction and economically devastate them at every turn.

So I think in all there were two options and they decided on rushing in (citing 2 weeks away which I think is silly) with no contingency and asking for help retroactively which is absurd. It was impulsive and directly related to your leaders capricious nature. He fired all the people that said it was a bad idea like a lunatic and went ahead anyway because HE wants to get the glory for "stopping" iran, he wants cuba, he wants more land....

Essentially, act like a rational, calculated adult instead of a tough guy teenage boy showing how macho he is.


If you are talking about the straight, suffer the defeat and start with concessions to get this saga over with and stop crippling the world economy. This shit is going to get worse and will last for well over a year. Iran can persist based on predictions for 6 months to a year with no oil going out, that would devastate the world economy. Even then, I am sure as that deadline approaches they will ramp up action not concede as they appear to be extremely prideful and being run by auotcrats do not seem to care about the pain it causes the people.


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2319 on: May 15, 2026, 04:38:52 AM »
what gives NATO the right to tell a sovereign country it has no right to have a nuclear weapon?

I still haven't had a valid answer

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2320 on: May 15, 2026, 05:47:53 AM »
what gives NATO the right to tell a sovereign country it has no right to have a nuclear weapon?

I still haven't had a valid answer

Nothing, particularly after you tear up an agreement on said nuclear weapons. The US have zero right to demand what they are demanding. They can start a war of course, which they have.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2321 on: May 15, 2026, 06:48:20 AM »
what gives NATO the right to tell a sovereign country it has no right to have a nuclear weapon?

I still haven't had a valid answer
Nothing. They should let Eeron develop nuclear weapons and kill their neighbors. I'm all for it. Fuck the middle east. Eeron didn't comply with any agreement they made, so why not bomb the fuck out of them?
Since those are the only two choices, I say let them develop nukes, they won't get anywhere near the US. :)
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2322 on: May 15, 2026, 06:58:30 AM »
Nothing. They should let Eeron develop nuclear weapons and kill their neighbors. I'm all for it. Fuck the middle east. Eeron didn't comply with any agreement they made, so why not bomb the fuck out of them?
Since those are the only two choices, I say let them develop nukes, they won't get anywhere near the US. :)
and i say think before you write  ::) subs can easily get in range to blow up your hick town

https://news.usni.org/2024/06/11/russian-nuclear-sub-frigate-with-long-range-land-attack-missiles-operating-off-east-coast

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2323 on: May 15, 2026, 07:17:39 AM »
and i say think before you write  ::) subs can easily get in range to blow up your hick town

https://news.usni.org/2024/06/11/russian-nuclear-sub-frigate-with-long-range-land-attack-missiles-operating-off-east-coast
You should be more worried about all the muzzies you let into your country. Why did you do that Donny??
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2324 on: May 15, 2026, 08:12:35 AM »
Nothing. They should let Eeron develop nuclear weapons and kill their neighbors. I'm all for it. Fuck the middle east. Eeron didn't comply with any agreement they made, so why not bomb the fuck out of them?
Since those are the only two choices, I say let them develop nukes, they won't get anywhere near the US. :)

All the other countries that are in conflict with nukes seem to have not nuked each other. You think Iran isn't aware of mutually assured destruction? what nukes would do is prevent what is currently happening to them from happening though.

North korea is insane and haven't done shit.