2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[chaos]

so what are you doing against the muzzie invasion or mexican invasion?
are you active in your local National Guard ?
i mean if you are so Patriotic are you doing your bit?

donald it broke my heart to realize that you were a filthy traitor yourself. i always wanted a man who could use fighting sticks and chi energy to protect me but as someone who is quarter irish it hurt me to discover that you spent years killing the irish people because the government told you to.

and then you abandoned your own country and fled to germany to help them spread the plague of islam all over the UK and europe, all at the expense of working class families and veterans who should have been the ones getting benefits and support instead of your buddies Jafar and Muhammed 

is there anything you wouldnt do to piss all over the white working class of germany, great britain and ireland??

and to think i almost once sent you a nude selfie on here....

[IroNat]

[Irongrip400]

Is Jess JPJ?

[Donny]

Nobody is supposed to get pleasure from it. That's the point. Especially since we are engaging an ideology, not a rational people. I've said before, any time we're dealing with these people and their ideology, they only understand violence, taking potshots at each other or taking turns blowing up something insignificant isn't going to cut it. They need to be destroyed, defeated and beaten so badly that they submit. It's all they know and our government is too pussy to do it so we get caught up in these "forever wars".

all Wind & Piss 

[chaos]

all Wind & Piss 

Traitor

[Van_Bilderass]

Nobody is supposed to get pleasure from it. That's the point. Especially since we are engaging an ideology, not a rational people. I've said before, any time we're dealing with these people and their ideology, they only understand violence, taking potshots at each other or taking turns blowing up something insignificant isn't going to cut it. They need to be destroyed, defeated and beaten so badly that they submit. It's all they know and our government is too pussy to do it so we get caught up in these "forever wars".

I just don't agree that they're irrational and I've argued endlessly why they aren't irrational. Nor do I think they just understand violence. If you remember, Trump praised the Iranians at one point saying they are "very intelligent and very tough negotiators" too, and the new Ayatollah was "much more rational than his father." Now that Trump lost the negotiation and was very duplicitous they're suddenly "very stupid" LOL. They're neither stupid nor irrational. Look at how genius they have been with regards to the escalation ladder for example.

It's easy to say the U.S. should have been much more decisive. Obviously Trump must have bought Netanyahu's bullshit about quick regime change or else he would have heeded the warnings of the whole admin who said that wasn't going to work. So he didn't plan ahead and now he's grasping at straws, the supposed real objectives of the war keep changing.

In your opinion what should the U.S. have done differently? We had 40 days of very, very intense bombardment, like 13,000 targets hit IIRC. The U.S could have amassed 600K+ troops and done a land invasion as the military analysts say a war can't be won from the skies alone. But that could have taken conscription and 2 years of build-up to line everything up. A multi-country coalition perhaps. Not to mention this idea wouldn't have gone over well at home. Some nukes instead? No that could not have been sold domestically nor internationally either. So, what?

Trump thinks you're really jealous and very stupid, or just a bad person, by thinking he hasn't been tough enough. You're just an armchair quarterback who listens to conspiracy theories. Sit down, the man's a genius, just let him do his job!

[GymnJuice]

In your opinion what should the U.S. have done differently? We had 40 days of very, very intense bombardment, like 13,000 targets hit IIRC. The U.S could have amassed 600K+ troops and done a land invasion as the military analysts say a war can't be won from the skies alone. But that could have taken conscription and 2 years of build-up to line everything up. A multi-country coalition perhaps. Not to mention this idea wouldn't have gone over well at home. Some nukes instead? No that could not have been sold domestically nor internationally either. So, what?

We should not have gone there to begin with. I don't see how a land invasion of Iran would go any better than our land invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Coach is Back!]

I just don't agree that they're irrational and I've argued endlessly why they aren't irrational. Nor do I think they just understand violence. If you remember, Trump praised the Iranians at one point saying they are "very intelligent and very tough negotiators" too, and the new Ayatollah was "much more rational than his father." Now that Trump lost the negotiation and was very duplicitous they're suddenly "very stupid" LOL. They're neither stupid nor irrational. Look at how genius they have been with regards to the escalation ladder for example.

It's easy to say the U.S. should have been much more decisive. Obviously Trump must have bought Netanyahu's bullshit about quick regime change or else he would have heeded the warnings of the whole admin who said that wasn't going to work. So he didn't plan ahead and now he's grasping at straws, the supposed real objectives of the war keep changing.

In your opinion what should the U.S. have done differently? We had 40 days of very, very intense bombardment, like 13,000 targets hit IIRC. The U.S could have amassed 600K+ troops and done a land invasion as the military analysts say a war can't be won from the skies alone. But that could have taken conscription and 2 years of build-up to line everything up. A multi-country coalition perhaps. Not to mention this idea wouldn't have gone over well at home. Some nukes instead? No that could not have been sold domestically nor internationally either. So, what?

This is class A trolling

[Van_Bilderass]

This is class A trolling

Another vapid reply. Care to point out how Iran has been irrational? Of course you won't.

Your demigod agrees that Iranians are very rational. See the meme above, it's a real quote.

I'd say the new leadership is more extreme and hardline, but what do I know, I just look at memes.

[Van_Bilderass]

We should not have gone there to begin with. I don't see how a land invasion of Iran would go any better than our land invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yeah looks to me like a monumentally bad decision with no possible good outcome. Seems land invasion would be tough with lots of casualties, the mountainous terrain is very different from Iraq. A natural fortress. Now Trump, or the U.S. or the deep state, whichever one prefers, can't win and can't lose either. How can you now just leave it as it is? Seems impossible.

More hilarious memes.

[chaos]

I just don't agree that they're irrational and I've argued endlessly why they aren't irrational. Nor do I think they just understand violence.

And this is why your country let people like Donny to convince you to bring the enemy within with open arms. The fact that you see them as rational is what gets you called a muzzie lover and sympathizer. You're trying to base their rationality on one topic, their right or lack of right to "protect" themselves with nuclear weapons.
What should we have done differently? I have said endless times we should have stayed out or gone in full force.

[illuminati]

I just don't agree that they're irrational and I've argued endlessly why they aren't irrational. Nor do I think they just understand violence. If you remember, Trump praised the Iranians at one point saying they are "very intelligent and very tough negotiators" too, and the new Ayatollah was "much more rational than his father." Now that Trump lost the negotiation and was very duplicitous they're suddenly "very stupid" LOL. They're neither stupid nor irrational. Look at how genius they have been with regards to the escalation ladder for example.

It's easy to say the U.S. should have been much more decisive. Obviously Trump must have bought Netanyahu's bullshit about quick regime change or else he would have heeded the warnings of the whole admin who said that wasn't going to work. So he didn't plan ahead and now he's grasping at straws, the supposed real objectives of the war keep changing.

In your opinion what should the U.S. have done differently? We had 40 days of very, very intense bombardment, like 13,000 targets hit IIRC. The U.S could have amassed 600K+ troops and done a land invasion as the military analysts say a war can't be won from the skies alone. But that could have taken conscription and 2 years of build-up to line everything up. A multi-country coalition perhaps. Not to mention this idea wouldn't have gone over well at home. Some nukes instead? No that could not have been sold domestically nor internationally either. So, what?

Trump thinks you're really jealous and very stupid, or just a bad person, by thinking he hasn't been tough enough. You're just an armchair quarterback who listens to conspiracy theories. Sit down, the man's a genius, just let him do his job!

Do you really trust or believe a word they say ?
Never ever believe or trust a Muslim they hate all non Muslims & will lie / cheat to your face
And stab you in the back.

I thought you knew better than to side with them scumbags.

[Van_Bilderass]

Do you really trust or believe a word they say ?
Never ever believe or trust a Muslim they hate all non Muslims & will lie / cheat to your face
And stab you in the back.

I thought you knew better than to side with them scumbags.

Read more closely friend

This is not about trust, it doesn't matter one iota whether they're trustworthy in other respects when deciding whether they're acting *rationally* in this war. I do side with them when they are in the right, ZOG is our common enemy. Do you trust the Jews? I was just reading a comment section and I'll let someone else make some of the points I've also been making.

(Iran is also not Arab and the Shia are not the same as Sunni in all respects)

[Van_Bilderass]

And this is why your country let people like Donny to convince you to bring the enemy within with open arms. The fact that you see them as rational is what gets you called a muzzie lover and sympathizer. You're trying to base their rationality on one topic, their right or lack of right to "protect" themselves with nuclear weapons.
What should we have done differently? I have said endless times we should have stayed out or gone in full force.

So what should I base their rationality on then? We're discussing this war. Fact of the matter is they're making very rational and I would say very successful decisions, so far. You call me a "muzzie lover" for lack of better arguments.

I do *not* think Iran having nuclear weapons is a good idea and neither Russia nor China want them to have them despite these countries siding with Iran at this time. It was a lie that they were about to have them within 10 days at which point they would immediately launch them at the U.S. and Israel. I believe 100% that Iran doesn't even really want them, the fatwah was real. They could have raced towards a nuke at many points in the past decades. But now, people are asking themselves whether they've changed their calculations. Clearly they would not have been attacked had they had an arsenal, just like NK hasn't.

They are pretty rational actors. Certainly no military analyst says they've acted irrationally in this conflict. Would it have been rational to let Israel and the US kill their leader and then just let their country be run over while a puppet regime was installed? See it from their point of view. It doesn't matter whether the analysts like the regime or not, basically no one does.

Example:

[loco]

Iranian security forces coordinated killing, torture and sexual abuse of protesters



The rights group has now investigated and verified the deaths of 377 protesters and bystanders, including 56 children. It also documented the cases of 16 people who were reportedly subjected to rape while arbitrarily detained in connection with the uprising, who included six women, seven men, a 14-year-old girl and two boys aged 16 and 17.

The Amnesty report said: "State agents penetrated women and girls vaginally, anally and orally, while men and boys were penetrated anally. Victims were penetrated with wooden and metal batons, glass bottles, hosepipes and/or the sexual organs and fingers of agents."

The harrowing findings echo testimonies gathered by the Guardian during and after the crackdown. In a Guardian report from December 2022 medics said security forces were shooting female protesters in the faces, breasts and genitals, and warned that the severity of the injuries could leave hundreds of young Iranians with permanent damage.

In testimony published in 2023, a 25-year-old protester told the Guardian she had been blindfolded and sexually assaulted during interrogation by security agents. Similar testimonies involving sexual assault and torture were reported by people interviewed following the anti-regime protests that took place in January 2026.

Amnesty's report says years of impunity for the violent crackdown paved the way for the even more brutal crackdown on the nationwide anti-government protests in January 2026, which culminated in the deaths of thousands of protesters over 48 hours on 8 and 9 January.

Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International's secretary general, said: "This investigation exposes the layers of command and coordination behind the Iranian authorities' deadly protest crackdowns. The agents on the streets operated within a hierarchical and coordinated chain of command linking them to officials who directed, enabled, facilitated and supported crimes committed on a massive scale."

Amnesty identified 87 Iranian officials, including the late supreme leader Ali Khamenei, and Mohammad Bagheri, the former chief of the general staff of the armed forces, killed in an airstrike in June 2025, who it said should be investigated for "crimes against humanity".

Amnesty also named the then minister of interior, Ahmad Vahidi, who has since become the general commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and the then deputy minister of interior for police and security, Majid Mirahmadi.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/iranian-security-forces-coordinated-killing-090016067.html

[Grape Ape]

I just don't agree that they're irrational and I've argued endlessly why they aren't irrational.

Iranian security forces coordinated killing, torture and sexual abuse of protesters

Dude, fuck them.

[chaos]

So what should I base their rationality on then? We're discussing this war.

So you would believe that they make tons of irrational decisions based on their extreme religious and ideological beliefs, but this, this is were they are rational and completely sane?

Makes total sense now. You should go yonder and spread the word of how rational your friends in Eeron are!!

[illuminati]

Read more closely friend

This is not about trust, it doesn't matter one iota whether they're trustworthy in other respects when deciding whether they're acting *rationally* in this war. I do side with them when they are in the right, ZOG is our common enemy. Do you trust the Jews? I was just reading a comment section and I'll let someone else make some of the points I've also been making.

(Iran is also not Arab and the Shia are not the same as Sunni in all respects)

1, I dislike Jews as much as i do Moslems - Trust / Believe neither

2, I'm well aware Shia & Suuni are differnt only they are both Islamic

You wish to trust them & back them that's your prerogative - Me I'll
carry on despising them.   

[Humble Narcissist]

Dude, fuck them.

Probably just propaganda.

[Van_Bilderass]

So you would believe that they make tons of irrational decisions based on their extreme religious and ideological beliefs, but this, this is were they are rational and completely sane?

Makes total sense now. You should go yonder and spread the word of how rational your friends in Eeron are!!

I feel really stupid for even engaging you at all, being all serious LOL, this is not the place for it. I just wish I could limit myself to some one line replies

You wish to trust them & back them that's your prerogative - Me I'll
carry on despising them.   

Recently I've spoken to a few guys I hadn't seen for a long time. Current events come up and before I've said anything they go, "I can't believe I'm even saying this, I'm fucking pulling for Iran in this." These are people who really hate Muslims and often have many personal gripes over Iranians here in particular. Maybe something to consider, or not, your prerogative

Not talking about you, but some professed Christians on this site have such a thirst for blood and death. No wish to convert, no wish for redemption of souls, just pure hate and a lust for death and rivers of blood. To me it's all very old testament, very Jewish. They love baby killers, whether in Gaza or in Iran. It has me thinking...

[chaos]

I feel really stupid for even engaging you at all, being all serious LOL,

You should feel stupid and it should be painful.

[Van_Bilderass]

Probably just propaganda.

Couldn't be, could it

An adjacent conflict. Beheaded babies, babies thrown into ovens and baked alive, mass rapes, all caught on Gopro bodycams, allegedly. On the others side, dogs trained to rape prisoners, justified anal rapes with bayonets caught on surveillance camera. It's only right and really funny too, fuck those dirty muzzies.

Conspiracy theory memes:

[Van_Bilderass]

Dude, fuck them.

Yes fuck "them."

Dude.

Conspiracy theory meme-slop. Trump with MBS is AI.

[Grape Ape]

Yes fuck "them."

Dude.

Conspiracy theory meme-slop. Trump with MBS is AI.

No conspiracies.

Fuck the mullahs if you need it more specific.

Fuck their terrorist sponsoring regime.

Fuck your support of them and rationalizing their behavior.

[Van_Bilderass]

No conspiracies.

Fuck the mullahs if you need it more specific.

Fuck their terrorist sponsoring regime.

Fuck your support of them and rationalizing their behavior.

In other words, fuck the Iranian mullahs but fuck with the Gulf Islamic family dictatorships. Because democracy is a really important western value.

Let's be rational here. Let's support the mostly peaceful ISIS, al-Qaeda, Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham and every other Sunni terror group the U.S. and Israel supports.

Let's just forget that the 9/11 highjackers came out of Saudi, not Iran.

Fuck me for being irrational.