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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #200 on: May 25, 2006, 11:32:23 AM »
I heard the check was actually written on a paper towel, using crayons.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #201 on: May 25, 2006, 11:32:51 AM »
I have a lot of respect for you onlyme but if you argue with Shawn on these boards, I am not going to intervene nor join in on the banter if you both put each other down.  Whatever personal feelings you hold for each other is between you and him. I know nothing about what has happenned in the past.

I just hope one youll see past your differences and maybe mend some wounds...

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #202 on: May 25, 2006, 11:33:28 AM »
Whats funny is I know everyone will get paid sometime.  No way in hell will VYotech let this go since they are the main name out there and Sean would never use his own money.  The problem was and always has been how everyone associated with this farce has lied.  SOmeone last week put that the guys were all taken care of last Friday.  When in fact they weren't.  Chic types a letter on the board and says its from the bank.  But when asked to just scan the orignal document nothing happens.  To date Sean has not defended his actions only he does his sidestepping bullshit he alwasy does without explaining why guys weren't paid.  As much as Lift, Jerry and whoever else seems to think Sean can do no wrong, Sean has the reputation of deceit and being cheap and not doing what he says he will do.  Thats why pulling off this show was so important.  Well he did pull it off but two weeks after the show there are still some issues.  He comes on here saying how no athletes have come on here to complain, well no athletes have come on here to say anythng good about you either and not one of them who had a check bounce has come on here to say they have been paid.  And I highly doubt anything negative will be said by any competitor from fear of the IFBB.  And to say that doesn't happen is a joke.  I think Chic said something about Jay Cutler after threatening t sure the IFBB and look at him.  Yes look at him.  He has nevr won the Olympia and it is a pretty safe bet he never will cause of the shit he caused the IFBB.  It amazes me how some of you support an organization that does nothing for their members and screws them whenever possible.  And they have been able to do this for many years because they knew their was no where else to compete.  Well now their is and now they are a little worried.  And they should be.  As I was told, sit back and the IFBB will destroy themselves.  And again that is true.  The IFBB will ruin themselves.  Alsready this year a cancelled show with more to follow and a show that even after its done is having problems.  No matter what you 3 or 4 misguided morons who support what the IFBB does to its athletes and supports a promoter who can't tell the truth and hides, I don't come on here and say anything that hasn't happened.  So far no one can explain why there was no money in the account.  All they do is come on here a shows a letter that Chic types saying the bank made a mistake.  Sorry thats no proof you had money in the account.  The fact is Sean was treated with kid gloves because of his relation with the IFBB and his sponsors is big with them.  So NO secured money was required like it is from all other promoters and it blew up in their face.  That is a fact. And to say I don't what I am talking about is hilarious.  Other than Sean and Mike I am the only one who has put on a major show here and many others.  So what say is out of expericence not by hanging around a guy or reading it somewhere.  I lived it.  And the countless emails and PM's I get from many people telling me things about the IFBB, and others kind of supports that many know my experience.

So keep hanging on to the S.S. IFBB cause your ship is sinking, and you are going down with it.
Did you ever stop to think that yiou don't get responses to some question pose because:

A : These people don't give a shit what you two second rate Woodward and Bernsteins think.

b : They know no matter what answer they give you retards will never be satisfied, it's just more grist for the mill.

C : They don't have to tell you shit, it's none of your business really.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #203 on: May 25, 2006, 11:35:09 AM »
onlyme the fact is  lift looks 1000x's better than you.  sorry, just stating the facts. 

also, whats the difference when lift mentions how 240 commuincates with pros via pm, and when 240 says he knows information about sarcasm, and many more people on getbig, but hides this information in his bag of tricks.      wasnt 240 threating to post pics of cheri that he had stashed.  then he brought her kids into the fight.    240 brags about all this private information he has ALL THE TIME.  is this really someone you want to do buisness with.  no offense, just stating the FACTS.
 
in the end, i actually beleive that phil and other competitors will get their money.  its just clear that shawn is owns onlyme even when shawn doesnt post.  that is the most severe kind of ownage. 
 



Dookie, this is unfair.  No way is Lift 1000 times better than me.  900 at the most.  And I too have stated I know everyone will get paid.  No dobt about it 100% sure of that.  I am just stating and doing it out of personal experince that it should have never happened.  And Sean has never owned me.  He is moral-less, cheap, lies, side-steps real questions, misleads, and takes advantage of people.  I highly doubt anyone like this can even comes close to owning me.  Not even close.  His not posting as you put it is because he can't answer the questions put forth to him.  Why do you thnk Chic is doing it.  How can anyone idolze someone like this is beyond me andmany others.  Sure you can idolize his body he once had cause he is fat as hell now, but what else is there.  When you idolize someone like this it speaks volumes of your own character.  Do you really want to go there.  I even admire his body he once had.  Hell I loved Arnolds body.  But after being with him and seeing how he was with the camreas off i do not like him.  

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #204 on: May 25, 2006, 11:40:34 AM »
Ieffinhatecardio...yeah you know all about me....yadda yadda yadda yaddda.

And just for the record..Im strictly clitly...which means Im only attracted to the opposite sex...Im sorry to ruin your fantasy

As far as ass worshipping the pros, please....I read articles to better myself or strive to be the best I can because someone inspired me to...I dont get turned on looking at men...do you? If you dont, then why are you bringing up thius subject. I know who I am and what I like and dont need you to validate or make other people judge me when they dont even know me....

Now, you are the one making yourself out to be the self righteous asshole....sorry had to say it...

Strictly Clitly? That's the best you could do?

And I never once mentioned that you had a sexual effinity for male bodybuilders, why did you bring it up? Are you a little sensitive about it?

You don't take anything constructive, you worship, nothing constructive comes from worshipping. As I said before, I can see how you would defend Chick under certain circumstances but to blindly defend Shawn Ray is ridiculous.

What the hell are you apologizing for? If you believe what you say and what you say doesn't cause anyone irrepairable harm who the hell cares?

I think you're a Pro worshipping doofus, that doesn't mean you're a bad person it just means you think the Pro's can do no wrong and that you'll defend them to the end, even if they let their mother get arrested and convicted of transporting their cocaine.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #205 on: May 25, 2006, 11:41:52 AM »
I dont know Shawn Ray personally to judge him but I do know that when I met him, he treated me with respect.

Shawn was like a hero to me when I was growing up. I know that he is human and make mistakes just like me but what I dont think is right is when people on this board go on the bash Shawn Ray bandwagon or bash Ronnie bandwagon or bash Chick bandwagon...

Youre creating negativity to people that never really knew who these men are and making people judge them prematurely when they dont even know them...

Its like this is a high school playground...cliques and shit...Im so tired of people following the crowd  

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #206 on: May 25, 2006, 11:42:07 AM »
Did you ever stop to think that yiou don't get responses to some question pose because:

A : These people don't give a shit what you two second rate Woodward and Bernsteins think.

b : They know no matter what answer they give you retards will never be satisfied, it's just more grist for the mill.

C : They don't have to tell you shit, it's none of your business really.

Sorry dude I didn't go to college,

A.   what is Woodward and Bernsteins mean.
B.   And yes they do care what I say.  Cause why do you think they argue with me so much.  Cause I do know what I am talking about.  They know I have done things that no one else on here has done.  And what is grist.
C.   And you are right it is none of my business but when these things that are bad come out on a public forum that 20,000+ people see a day, they it becomes others business cause they are the ones who pay.  You have to understand the IFBB is being scuntnized even more than ever cause of the PDI.  Everything they do bad now will be exploded till it is explained.  It is a fact the the IFBB does not take care of their members.  Now, their history is catching up and people are leaving.  You just need to face the facts.  I am one of themany on here who refuse to let this crap get shoved under the carpet like it has for the past many years.  

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #207 on: May 25, 2006, 11:44:59 AM »
again..you are judging me and you dont even personally know me...youre ignorant ieffinhatecardio....

ill pray for you...you need to pray for me too cause im going to use this hate to demolish the weights at the gym... ;)

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #208 on: May 25, 2006, 11:49:06 AM »
what we should do is do a collection and give it to Ron so he can make a fund for some bodybuilders who arent doing too great....people complain about this and that but dont want to help rectify the situation.

Im willing to donate $20 for a worthy cause to help a bodybuilder who isnt fortunate. If more people that cared stepped forward, we can make this pot grow and help someone who truly needs it...just like how Denise Newman was helped when he had luekemia

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #209 on: May 25, 2006, 11:51:12 AM »
I dont know Shawn Ray personally to judge him but I do know that when I met him, he treated me with respect.

Shawn was like a hero to me when I was growing up. I know that he is human and make mistakes just like me but what I dont think is right is when people on this board go on the bash Shawn Ray bandwagon or bash Ronnie bandwagon or bash Chick bandwagon...

Youre creating negativity to people that never really knew who these men are and making people judge them prematurely when they dont even know them...

Its like this is a high school playground...cliques and shit...Im so tired of people following the crowd  

If I remember correctly Chick was well liked on this board until he started talking as if he were standing on Mt. Olympus. Then he was given that win at that fake show and everything exploded, especially since no one on Chick's side would admit Jeffer's looked better. Before those things happened Chick got on quite well.

I haven't read any real bashing of Coleman, in fact most people agree he's a freak of nature. The thing I hear most is his stomach, and in my opinion everyone has a right to talk about his stomach, it's huge.

Lee, Coleman, Jeffers, Levrone, Cutler and more have posted here without incident yet no one ever mentions that.

Why?

As for Shawn Ray, well he's a different story. His transgressions are well documented and if you want to worship such a man because he was nice to you when you met him well that's your issue but don't expect to get a free ride because of it.

youre ignorant ieffinhatecardio

You can call me a lot of things and be correct but ignorant isn't one of them.


Denise Newman was helped when he had luekemia

His name is Dennis Newman. Denise is a woman's name.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #210 on: May 25, 2006, 11:53:08 AM »
Sorry dude I didn't go to college,

A.   what is Woodward and Bernsteins mean.
B.   And yes they do care what I say.  Cause why do you think they argue with me so much.  Cause I do know what I am talking about.  They know I have done things that no one else on here has done.  And what is grist.
C.   And you are right it is none of my business but when these things that are bad come out on a public forum that 20,000+ people see a day, they it becomes others business cause they are the ones who pay.  You have to understand the IFBB is being scuntnized even more than ever cause of the PDI.  Everything they do bad now will be exploded till it is explained.  It is a fact the the IFBB does not take care of their members.  Now, their history is catching up and people are leaving.  You just need to face the facts.  I am one of themany on here who refuse to let this crap get shoved under the carpet like it has for the past many years. 

Woodward and Bernstein were the reporters who broke the Watergate story.

Grist for the mill = fuel for the fire

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #211 on: May 25, 2006, 11:55:31 AM »
I dont know Shawn Ray personally to judge him but I do know that when I met him, he treated me with respect.

Shawn was like a hero to me when I was growing up. I know that he is human and make mistakes just like me but what I dont think is right is when people on this board go on the bash Shawn Ray bandwagon or bash Ronnie bandwagon or bash Chick bandwagon...

Youre creating negativity to people that never really knew who these men are and making people judge them prematurely when they dont even know them...

Its like this is a high school playground...cliques and shit...Im so tired of people following the crowd  

Jerry not sure how old you are bet I am pretty sure it is under 25.  I have the same mentality as you do when it comes to how people talk about others. I had many and I mean many people tell me about Sean adn don't bring him here and so on and so on.  But, he too was someone I liked and admired and wanted him at my show.  He didn't anything to me, I never met him.  That is how I usually think of anyone.  They might have been a dick to you but they haven't done anything to me.  So I almost always give the person the benefit of the doubt.  As long as everything is cool and they don't screw me then we're friends and I'll do whatever to help them and support them.  And I still do that.  As much as Kevin and Issac fuck with me on here, they really haven't done anything to me.  So, if we ever meet I'm just going to figure we're cool and be friends or whatever.  But, when someone fucks with me and takes advantage of me and/or rips me off then all the shit changes.  Certain things Sean did changed my attitude of him.  And when I say shit I am not making shit up to make him sound bad.  I mean why make shit up, there is plenty of facts out there already.  

Chic has done nothing to me on here to hurt me or piss me off.  I like Chic.  I just don't like where his loyalty is either.  But I understand it.  Hopefully the PDI will kick ass fast so Chic can come over to the darkside before he gets fat and old.  I been and spoke at almost every high school on Oahu and many more on the mainland.  The schools loved me to come and speak to the kids cause I could relate and they would listen to me.  I hate it more than anything when a weaker person is taken advantage of or when a big company takes advantage of people.  I hate it with a passion.  I have never been able to do anything about it with the IFBB, Manion or weiders till now with the PDI.  Wayne doens't like what I am doing cause he is very laid back and just lets everything fall into place.  But, I want the PDI to be successful in a big way cause it WILL destry the IFBB empire Manion and the Weiders.  

Okay enough philosophy from me today.  I gotta start bashing again.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #212 on: May 25, 2006, 11:58:31 AM »
Woodward and Bernstein were the reporters who broke the Watergate story.

Grist for the mill = fuel for the fire

Thanks.   I swear I thought the top one was a dressing you were calling me.  When I see your name Groink it reminds me of a guy I went to school with Robert Giverink was his name.  Funny guy.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #213 on: May 25, 2006, 12:00:14 PM »
strictly clitly...



Never heard that term before, but I like it!  

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #214 on: May 25, 2006, 12:25:10 PM »

Talked to Phil. Check was redeposited on Monday.


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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #215 on: May 25, 2006, 12:28:02 PM »
Gotta five credit where credit is due. You looked ok in those shots. A little too much of the "Village People" moustache though.
this coming from a dude who looks like he eats a dozen doughnuts for breakfast and looks like he's never been in a gym a day in his life.
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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #216 on: May 25, 2006, 01:00:32 PM »
YEAH YOU SUCK KEVIN HORTON!  ;D

Only female nipples though!

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #217 on: May 25, 2006, 01:05:02 PM »
this coming from a dude who looks like he eats a dozen doughnuts for breakfast and looks like he's never been in a gym a day in his life.

Unless you're referring to yourself, it should be "That coming from"
But having seen that amazing double biceps of yours it's clear you've never lifted anything other than a shit shovel. Too bad it didn't come with instructions, then your face wouldn't look so beat up.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #218 on: May 25, 2006, 01:08:58 PM »
are you suggesting that Shawn Ray ran a charity event, dearth?

no, I'm suggesting Shawn stuck his foot in his big mouth and as usual fails to acknowledge it.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #219 on: May 25, 2006, 02:32:13 PM »
I've seen your photos Kevin and you are good but your loyalty for the IFBB and hatred for what Wayne is doing gets me going.  I hate people and companies that take advantage of others and reap in the riches while others suffer.  And the IFBB, Manion and the Weiders fit this bill.  So anything I can do to stop it I will.  And supporting Wayne and his idea seems to be the best way to do it now.  

Also, whoever called me flapjack is funnier than hell.  I love that word.

I appreciate what you went through Keith and I don;t take any of the personal remarks people say here to heart, even when you wished me an early death and told me I was a crap photographer ::)
The only bad part about the insults is that it quickly ruins any valid and worthwhile discussions.
On a serious note, I don't hate Wayne. I spent quite some time with hime over the years at the NOC's, Olympia's and Euro Tours and we always had a great time.
My doubts over the PDI have nothing to do with me supporting the IFBB or FLEX etc. etc. they are based on simple logic - the "simple" reference will now have all the keyboard gangsters creaming their knickers thinking over one-liners!
The interest in competetive bodybuilding has been falling over the past ten years. Tickets to shows stay in the box office and promoters fail.
Is there room for another federation to succeed?
What does the PDI or any other future start-up organisation have to offer that the IFBB, NABBA etc. don't already supply?
Why are sponsors so reluctant to reveal their identity. Surely every day they are not known, means less publicity for them? Why are there no contact details for the shows in Europe?
I'd ask the same questions if it was Joe Blow starting up.
We've already had athletes have their preparations spoiled because of the cancellation of the Toronto show. They don't need anymore, whether they be IFBB. NABBA , the PDI or the Fat Fuckers of the UK Society?

You may not like the IFBB, NPC, etc. but they are still the best route for a competetive bodybuilder to make a living. The Olympia paid out the highest prize money in the history of the sport, and if my memory proves correct, no athlete has been fined since Wayne "left" ::)

Of course, it's easy to see the PDI as the underdog and want to support it, but a quick look at it's history shows a record of failure and lack of support. With no promoters or sponsors named, it's easy to assume that nothing has changed?

I will say that at least you've put your money where your mouth and heart is and tried to contribute to the sport which so I respect you for that. I have rather less for those who just sit on the side lines bitching about a business they know nothing of.

Good luck, good night



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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #220 on: May 25, 2006, 02:59:21 PM »
You think Jay never won the Olympia because the IFBB is teaching him a lesson?  Oh please!!

Dont you think that the sport could make more money if they made a marketable (white) Mr. Olympia?

Ronnie is from a different planet and out muscles Jay....
alot of people think jay should have won last yr! so just because you come on here and bla bla bla since your a ronnie fan , means squat!

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #221 on: May 25, 2006, 03:00:41 PM »
Shit Kevin I hope we aren't bonding.  Anyway, no matter what anyone says including me, 240, Jack, Vinny or even Wayne, nothing matters till the day after the show.  Then we will all see.  The only thing is how much people talk bad about the PDI when no one has given it a chance.  Look at Don King.  He is the biggest rip off and true crimimnal there is, and he is also the best promter there is.  Who cares what happened in the past with Wayne he is driven and determined to make the PDI great and I am supporting him.

Come on everyone, lets join hands! PDI! PDI! PDI! PDI! PDI! PDI! PDI! PDI! PDI!  ;D ;D

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #222 on: May 25, 2006, 03:09:43 PM »
Onlyme.  It really is Shawn Ray not Sean Ray.  Unless Flex magazine and all the other publications have been spelling it wrong for years.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #223 on: May 25, 2006, 03:24:12 PM »
Onlyme.  It really is Shawn Ray not Sean Ray.  Unless Flex magazine and all the other publications have been spelling it wrong for years.

Yes I know, but if you heard when he was in Denver doing a talk show they spelled his name wrong.  Hence the reason I am doing it.  It's a ritual with me now.  For fun.  Plus, he looks and acts more like a Sean.

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Re: Did Phil Heath cash his check?
« Reply #224 on: May 25, 2006, 03:25:32 PM »
Heathy baby.  I predict big things for him and ROCCO MEDIATE.