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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2006, 08:33:16 PM »
doesn't the eventual choice prove the primal urging?

No. He probably just watched to much MMA!
just push some weight!

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2006, 08:38:13 PM »
It goes both ways.  Some are born gay, some choose it.

Some men are born with more estrogen in their bodies, this also has an effect on the mind.  Hormones are some powerful shit and dictate sexual preference and desire in a lot of cases.

Now there are some who choose to be fluffers for many reasons.  Most Bodybuilders choose it because they are too stupid to get a job.

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2006, 08:39:17 PM »
It goes both ways.  Some are born gay, some choose it.

Some men are born with more estrogen in their bodies, this also has an effect on the mind.  Hormones are some powerful shit and dictate sexual preference and desire in a lot of cases.

Now there are some who choose to be fluffers for many reasons.  Most Bodybuilders choose it because they are too stupid to get a job.

So you admit to having a lot of estrogen?
just push some weight!

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2006, 08:46:30 PM »
So you admit to having a lot of estrogen?

I think the Estrogen flows freely in your veins buddy.


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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2006, 08:49:19 PM »
No, there is no evidence that estrogen levels are any different in gays than in straights.   There is evidence that various hormones in the womb do affect sexual orientation.   There is a lot of scientific evidence that sexual orientation is biological.

But sexual orientation is not a yes/no 1/0 type of thing.  It is a range, let's say 0-6 (the Kinsey scale).  People on the 0-1 end of the scale would find it impossible to be attracted to people of the same sex, while people on the 5-6 end of the scale would find it impossible to be attracted to people of the opposite sex.  People in the middle could choose to behave one way for a while, then the other, or both.    Some believe that your location on the Kinsey scale can change over the years.  There is some evidence that this is true for women, not so much for men.

I'm definitely on the 4-5-6 end of the scale.  I can choose to be celibate, but why?   I cannot choose who I'm attracted to, or who I fall in love with.

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #55 on: July 20, 2006, 08:52:44 PM »
nice athletic body... let the transformation begin... nose job, boobs, drugs etc etc

Maybe it's just me,  but she looks fine as is.

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #56 on: July 20, 2006, 08:53:14 PM »
I think the Estrogen flows freely in your veins buddy.

perhaps he needs a queer makeover.

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2006, 09:02:26 PM »
4. Sexual Preference is fixed from birth.
In our society the idea that sexual preference might be fixed from birth is not a popular theory. However, the concept that sexual preference is consciously chosen at puberty or at any other age after birth is a biological impossibility. Differences in gender, the state of being male or female, are far more complex than most people realize. Recent studies on bisexual men, homosexual men and homosexual women have found that people with these sexual orientations not only have different hormonal levels from heterosexuals but possess different physical characteristics as well. It has been observed that brain hormone events occurring before birth are a factor in the development of human sexual orientation. It could be that the factors creating homosexual orientation are the same for gay men and gay women. The role hormones play in these mechanisms is influential, but not fully understood.


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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #58 on: July 20, 2006, 09:07:42 PM »
Recent studies on bisexual men, homosexual men and homosexual women have found that people with these sexual orientations not only have different hormonal levels from heterosexuals but possess different physical characteristics as well.

lots of different hormones.  estrogen is not one that effects sexual orientation.    guys with gyno don't suddenly go gay.

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2006, 09:28:15 PM »
I definitely believe that more women tend to float between being gay, straight and bi than do guys whereas more males go with what they deep down (ie. can't control) feel in regards to their sexuality.

Choosing to be gay because women have rejected you is crazy. the gay lifestyle, from what i've observed, is way tougher on people and their emotions than being straight.

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2006, 10:51:24 PM »
In my time zone, it actually aired at 1:35, but you know how television adds 200 pounds.

does that mean her 315 squat was on tv   so it was really 115?

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2006, 12:30:51 AM »
does that mean her 315 squat was on tv   so it was really 115?

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2006, 06:51:25 AM »
I plan to listen too.  And since you can't have anything from the Canarble Wagon until after your next comp. know that Cheri and I are toasting you from our home Canarble Wagons!  ;D



(Cheri, Canarble Wagon = Bar  :) )



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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2006, 07:06:24 AM »
Jennifer looks great.

The best current scientific evidence states that biological, genetic pre-disposition, and environmental/social circumstance are all factors that can influence sexual preference.  I think Tim's scale is the right way to think about it cause there are straight people that, when put in a certain environment, are interact physically with the same sex...but other straight people that no matter what environment they are in or however inebriated, they have no desire for the same sex.

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2006, 07:10:54 AM »
Alexx is so homophobic that his opinion will always be tainted by his prejudice.

You cant reason when people are like that
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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2006, 07:38:08 AM »
According to the Bible, the Bible says everything is a choice.

The Bible also talks about a reprobate mind.

Reprobate: 1. A morally unprincipled person.
2. One who is predestined to damnation.
adj.
1. Morally unprincipled; shameless.
2. Rejected by God and without hope of salvation.

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet."

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." (Romans 1:18-32 KJV)

A "Reprobate mind" doesnt incluse just homosexuals but adulterers who do it regardless if they know its wrong, people who steal and so forth, etc

According to the Bible, homosexuality is not a "natural" act. It is an unatural act whereby people give in to that act because they dont care and rather accept to themselves that what they are doing is right and natural just like people who hate other because of their ethnic backgrounds or hate people because of the color of thei skin. Racism, homosexuality is not something you are born with but something that can be taught or be influenced by.

In the ancient pagan Mystery Religions, homosexuality and pedophilia were popularized. Worshippers of Baal erected shrines and temples of male prostitution (I Kings 14). Roman Emperors Nero, Caligula, and Commodus engaged in incest, sex with boys, bondage, and a variety of evil crimes. So, too, did those in Pharaoh's court. Alexander the Great was a homosexual who loved little boys.

When the Spanish Conquistadors conquered Central America and the Yucatan in Mexico, they found that most native Indian priests were sodomites. In their pagan temples were sacred statues depicting gay sex acts. In Babylon, people sacrificed and prayed to gods and goddesses requesting sexual favors and carnal pleasures.

Taken from http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/homosexuality_is_a_sin.htm
I do NOT condone hatred towards anyone.  In fact, the Bible never directs us to hate anyone (not even the devil).  However, the Bible does teach us to hate evil (Psalm 97:10).  The Word of God clearly teaches in Romans 1:26-32 that homosexuality is a horrible sin.  According to 1st Corinthians 6:9-10, homosexuals will not be allowed into heaven.  For that matter, no sinners will be allowed into heaven.  The only hope is through the blood of Jesus Christ which washes our sins away (Colossians 1:14).  I do NOT seek to be unkind to anyone, but the Word of God is not going to change (Matthew 5:18).  Sodomy (the Bible's term for homosexuality) is sinful in God's eyes!  If you don't like it, then get mad at God.

I realize that no homosexual wants to hear a Bible-thumper proclaiming the Word of God that homosexuality is a wicked sin...but homosexuality is a sin!  To no surprise, homosexuals are now publishing their own perverted Bibles and creating perverted websites, trying to claim that God permits homosexuality.  Now we even have Sodomite ministers.  Society can't go much lower.  The Bible foretold of these wicked people who would change the Word of God into a lie...

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie..." -Romans 1:24-25

**I do not hate homosexuals but I treat them as people because they are individuals and should be treated with respect just as everyone else. But what I dont condone is the lifestyle....



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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #66 on: July 21, 2006, 07:43:12 AM »
 All youheethens are wrong...homosexuality is not a genetic disorder not choice not how one was raised none of that...homosexuality is a familiar spirit from hell. Believe it or not thats fine...but homosexuals are demonically possessed. Not like in the movies where your face turns green and your head spins or you levitate above the bed...forget the movies...

 It's a common spirit. There IS a spirit of homosexuality. If you look at me...you CANNOT tell that I like Chevy's over Fords...you just cant. If I walked into a room or spoke to you...you couldnt tell that I prefer vanilla over chocolate. Thats choice! The reason why you can mere glance at someone and know or can tell they are gay...its because of a familiar spirit. The mannerisms, the lispy high helium filled voice...the common interest in certain music or musucial acts...or interest in fashion, hairstyling etc...all sterotypes but true. That isnt coincidence...even their facial structure changes.

 Same w/ gay women...mannerisms, interests etc...even their physical features change naturally. Its a demon controlling them. Kind of like a curse...sins of the fathers passed through the bloodline.

 God made men for women and women for men. Satan, who is a direct mockery of everything God intended...is the creator of homosexuality. homosexuality is a direct mockery of what is right.

 DEMONIC influence, Timmy...Bay. Wether you believe it or not...some things are just true.
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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2006, 07:44:18 AM »
I agree with you Blockhead

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2006, 08:59:03 AM »
I think the Estrogen flows freely in your veins buddy.



hahaha you're just mad that I have superior shape and lines and everything else.
just push some weight!

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2006, 09:22:18 AM »
According to the Bible, the Bible says everything is a choice.

The Bible isn't exactly the most up-to-date reference manual out there, you know.

A lot has been learned about *everything* since the Bible was written. 

Perhaps it's time for the Next Testament...

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2006, 09:24:30 AM »

This discussion illustrates the #1 problem in America today - lack of common sense.

While environmental factors can influence a person's gender identification, the hard-wiring is already in place at birth. 

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2006, 09:26:48 AM »
I think the Estrogen flows freely in your veins buddy.


Not as freely as it does in your veins. How's that whole bleaching your hair thing going for you?


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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #72 on: July 21, 2006, 09:28:39 AM »
If 'she' had shaved those legs ^^ 40-50% of the readers on here would do 'her' in a minute.

Another 20-25% would need a beer or two. 

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2006, 09:33:11 AM »
If 'she' had shaved those legs ^^ 40-50% of the readers on here would do 'her' in a minute.

Another 20-25% would need a beer or two. 

Apparently the bleached blonde and zit faced TA didn't mind that "her" legs weren't shaved. He also didn't mind that his dark roots were showing.

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Re: "The Beast" Jennifer on CNN!
« Reply #74 on: July 21, 2006, 09:57:33 AM »
the hardwiring is determined at birth? thats whgat scientist want you to believe ;)