Back when the OTC supplement law was past...95....Bill was the man. His MMY2k was the mag every bodybuilder couldn't wait to come out. With TC, Dan D even Bill's brother Shawn were telling it like it is. They were telling us that steroids work, but with the advancement in supplementation, you can almost get the gains from his EAS line that you could make using AAS. He made a fortune on many guys like me who bought Myoplex, HMB, CLA you name it and most of you bought into it too. When reality set in and it was discovered that most of the supplements didn't work, Bill, ever the smart businessman, bailed. Say what ever you want about the man, but he had the right idea in the right place at the right time.