Winnie

[808muscle]

how should Winstrol be taken for a first time and w/ what stack would it work best?
Would a wintrol and d-bol stack be ok? how much of each?

[sportingsteroids]

i would not use dbol and winny togahter !!

only winny  will looks like this :
8 weeks
1-4 week 40 mg ed
5-8 week 60 mg ed

each pill 10 mg BD !

[texasRUSH]

what kinda gains would you expect from a winnie only cycle? i was told that just like dbol i'ts a no no to take by itself...


now my interest has be sparked 

[sportingsteroids]

probabily  little gains....

[Petrucci]

im NO expert (i never took it ) but im going to take Test + win and the informations i got is that:

 Doing a only winny cicle has one big counter-effect. It makes your test levels go down...So if you dont mind to dissapoint your girlfriend for some time (there can be another counter effects but i think the test going down its the worse) its ok.
 Its not for super gains in mass, but it helps you to gain more 'clean' mass (not from fat, just muscles) and for someone who never did one cycle before you will get some good gains...
 But 9 from 10 people tell me you have to take just a little test, even if it is just for maintainence of your levels

[sportingsteroids]

winny produce a lean quality look to the physique,
for bulking purpose , a stronger androgen like test is usually added

[whitewidow]

the winny i was using seriously shrunk my nutts- they were the BD 50mg stanabols- I was using prop with it and it still shrunk my nutts- i ran out of winny now im using gaspari halodrol-50 and id say its just as good if not better-

[Arnold jr]

how should Winstrol be taken for a first time and w/ what stack would it work best?
Would a wintrol and d-bol stack be ok? how much of each?

You would be wise to consider adding in some test. For a 1st cycle something like this:

wk 1-4 dbol 30mg ed
wk 1-12 test 500mg/wk
wk 7-12 winny 50mg ed
wk 15-17 PCT
*also consider adding in an adex or at least some nolva during cycle. Either .25mg adex eod or 20mg nolva ed

I would assume that you are not wanting to pin yourself and that is the reason for the oral only plan you have. If that is the case, don't be afraid of the pin, it is not a big deal and you'll get comfortable with it very quickly.

If you do go the oral only route, run the winny and dbol at the doses I laid out at the same duration but just run them back to back. You will also want to add in some proviron to help combat unwanted sides. Adding in the proviron will help but it is not a guarantee since everyone is affected a little differently when talking about AAS.

[sportingsteroids]

the winny i was using seriously shrunk my nutts- they were the BD 50mg stanabols- I was using prop with it and it still shrunk my nutts- i ran out of winny now im using gaspari halodrol-50 and id say its just as good if not better-

hi,
what is gaspari halodrol-50  by generic ??

[whitewidow]

hi,
what is gaspari halodrol-50  by generic ??

its basically a TBol Hybrid with some DMT(desoxy methyl testosterone) in it- totally designer steroid compound- this is an oTC supp- but its grey area- its not classified AAS but its steroid hormones anyway you look at it.

[sportingsteroids]

its basically a TBol Hybrid with some DMT(desoxy methyl testosterone) in it- totally designer steroid compound- this is an oTC supp- but its grey area- its not classified AAS but its steroid hormones anyway you look at it.

does it have any side effects ??

[whitewidow]

does it have any side effects ??

Yes- its a very strong compound- its stronger than TBol due to the DMT in it- makes it more androgenic-
its pretty hepatoxic stuff.

[sportingsteroids]

so how it could be in gray zone !?

[Playboy]

what kinda gains would you expect from a winnie only cycle? i was told that just like dbol i'ts a no no to take by itself...


now my interest has be sparked 

Provided you train hard and diet properly you will gain lean, lean muscle with low bodyfat. Do not expect to blow up off this stack.

PB

[liftingfreak]

First post here.  Been reading this forum for about a year, finally decided to join up and post.

I am curious why every shoots down low doses of stuff, or just taking things like winstrol?  I have been on 20mgs of winstrol a day for the last 8 weeks and I have to say, I am happy as hell with the effects.  Did I gain 20 pounds?  Nope-maybe put on 5 pounds so far at the most, but all my lifts have gone up every workout, I hit prs every workout, and I am getting better.

Before anyone thinks I am a newbie, I am 250 pounds and have been training for 16 years. 

It seems people just want it so fast that they just jack up the drugs instead of dialing in their diets or training harder.  You wouldnt expect to squat 1000 overnight would you?  So why are people trying to put 30 pounds of muscle on in 12 weeks?  I just dont get it.

Dosing isnt the key, the key is to eat big, train bigger, kill yourself in the weight room every single day, and use supplements effectively.

Before anyone new jumps into a gram of test a week or deca or dbol, just take it slow.  You have years to make gains-

Just my 2 cents.