Author Topic: could branch warren be a future Mr.O? (Read 10662 times)

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #25 on:** August 23, 2006, 08:46:46 PM »

Quote from: corinth on August 23, 2006, 08:45:16 PM

Dexter, Gunther, Gustavo, Victor, Dennis, Phil

what about them?

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #26 on:** August 23, 2006, 08:51:13 PM »

Quote from: corinth on August 23, 2006, 08:45:16 PM

Dexter, Gunther, Gustavo, Victor, Dennis, Phil

Branch has already beaten half of the top 6. With his performance at this year's Arnold, he's shown he can beat many of the front runners to the crown. It's arguable that he could have even beaten Dex, which puts him as high as 2nd or 3rd in the world (a bit of a stretch I know

)

As for Warren's back, I really do think he can improve it. But consider his performance at the ASC once more. Victor's got the widest back I've ever seen, and Branch beat him handily. It's all about overall consistency and Branch has that covered.

pobrecito · « **Reply #27 on:** August 23, 2006, 08:56:26 PM »

This is what you fail to understand.

Mr. Olympia has the best back in the world. Period. Haney. Yates. Coleman.

Warren is not, and will never be in that company.

corinth · « **Reply #28 on:** August 23, 2006, 08:57:48 PM »

The question is whether Branch can win the Olympia. The Olympia is a different contest than the others. I think Branch has the ability to win any contest but the Olympia. I just don't think there's any chance he'll ever win the Olympia. Even with a better back, he has horrible shape, his body is one of the most unaestetic competing today. I like Branch but in my opinion he'll never come close to the Olympia crown. Top 5 possibly, but never win.

whitewidow · « **Reply #29 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:01:01 PM »

Quote from: corinth on August 23, 2006, 08:45:16 PM

Dexter, Gunther, Gustavo, Victor, Dennis, Phil

dennis for sure no- he is another example of GH abuse- horrible mid-section-
gunther- hell no-
victor - no due to politics and the gym and drug situation
dexter - possibility
heath- possibility

Shockwave · « **Reply #30 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:01:14 PM »

Quote from: corinth on August 23, 2006, 08:57:48 PM

The question is whether Branch can win the Olympia. The Olympia is a different contest than the others. I think Branch has the ability to win any contest but the Olympia. I just don't think there's any chance he'll ever win the Olympia. Even with a better back, he has horrible shape, his body is one of the most unaestetic competing today. I like Branch but in my opinion he'll never come close to the Olympia crown. Top 5 possibly, but never win.

Dorian beat Flex Wheeler. In the olympia, Aesthetics matter not. Hope this helps

corinth · « **Reply #31 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:02:23 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on August 23, 2006, 09:01:14 PM

Dorian beat Flex Wheeler. In the olympia, Aesthetics matter not. Hope this helps

LOL Branch Warren is no Dorian Yates......please

Shockwave · « **Reply #32 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:02:30 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on August 23, 2006, 09:01:14 PM

Dorian beat Flex Wheeler. In the olympia, Aesthetics matter not. Hope this helps

Monster capitalization errors.

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #33 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:02:41 PM »

Quote from: corinth on August 23, 2006, 08:57:48 PM

Top 5 possibly, but never win.

never say never.

Shockwave · « **Reply #34 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:03:14 PM »

Quote from: corinth on August 23, 2006, 09:02:23 PM

LOL Branch Warren is no Dorian Yates......please

I never said he was. Just that aesthetics take a back seat at the olympia.

corinth · « **Reply #35 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:04:48 PM »

Quote from: Jr. Yates on August 23, 2006, 09:02:41 PM

never say never.

Ok, how about highly doubtful....

corinth · « **Reply #36 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:06:24 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on August 23, 2006, 09:03:14 PM

I never said he was. Just that aesthetics take a back seat at the olympia.

Aesthetics might take a back seat if you have overpowering size and conditioning, like Dorian. And even Dorian was much more aestethic than Branch.

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #37 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:09:39 PM »

Quote from: corinth on August 23, 2006, 08:57:48 PM

Even with a better back, he has horrible shape, his body is one of the most unaestetic competing today.

Dorian's shape was far from the greatest and he still beat the likes of Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, and other legends of aesthetic appeal. I think superior conditioning and a shit-load of mass can overide these qualities. Branch is thick and always competes dry and ripped.

If guys with better physiques come in with poor conditioning, Branch has what it takes to beat them. Dorian probably wouldn't have won after 93 if his conditioning hadn't been superior to everyone else [who mattered].

Besides, how unnasthetic can Warren be with a tight midsection?

corinth · « **Reply #38 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:14:20 PM »

Quote from: Big Poppa J on August 23, 2006, 09:09:39 PM

Dorian's shape was far from the greatest and he still beat the likes of Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, and other legends of aesthetic appeal. I think superior conditioning and a shit-load of mass can overide these qualities. Branch is thick and always competes dry and ripped.

If guys with better physiques come in with poor conditioning, Branch has what it takes to beat them. Dorian probably wouldn't have won after 93 if his conditioning hadn't been superior to everyone else [who mattered].

Besides, how unnasthetic can Warren be with a tight midsection?

Dorian beat those guys because he weighed 30 pounds more than them and had great conditioning. What does Branch weigh 240, 245. Who's he going to overpower at the Olympia weighing that? We're talking about the Mr. Olympia. Branch is never going to sniff the Olympia crown. At his best he might challenge for the top 5. The Olympia is a whole new ball game. And if you think Branch is aestetic, well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that.

gh15 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:42:36 PM »

Quote from: corinth on August 23, 2006, 09:14:20 PM

Dorian beat those guys because he weighed 30 pounds more than them and had great conditioning. What does Branch weigh 240, 245. Who's he going to overpower at the Olympia weighing that? We're talking about the Mr. Olympia. Branch is never going to sniff the Olympia crown. At his best he might challenge for the top 5. The Olympia is a whole new ball game. And if you think Branch is aestetic, well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that.

wrong
warren will be solid contender if he doesnt die before,, expect great things from him if he holds to life which i doubt will happen

nzmusclemonster · « **Reply #40 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:44:02 PM »

In the last 5 years Branch's face has aged 20 years!

dzulboy · « **Reply #41 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:56:50 PM »

Quote from: nzmusclemonster on August 23, 2006, 09:44:02 PM

In the last 5 years Branch's face has aged 20 years!

i said the exact same thing in previous branch thread

whitewidow · « **Reply #42 on:** August 23, 2006, 10:22:50 PM »

I think he has better aesthetics than ronnie- branch is cutt and striated everywhere-
he beat jay cuttler when he was 19 and can easily beat him again- watch out ronnie!

IceCold · « **Reply #43 on:** August 23, 2006, 10:38:45 PM »

branch is too short to win the Olympia.

sure, franco won - but only after arnold retired.

branch being 5'7, at most he can go up to 250 without loosing his conditioning or having an outrageous gut, but i if someone is taller and heavier, while in great shape...

he and dorian are similiar, but branch, as much as i like him, aint even close to dorian.

ruhl could be the next mr. olympia, if he improves his hamstrings and gets his back more seperated. it doesnt have to be the best onstage, but close to it. he has the size, height, stage presence, freaky bodyparts - bi's and chest. in 04, his midsection was fine. ruhl just needs to get a bit harder, dryer, and more seperated in the back. but that's a tall order to fill. time will tell if he will do that.

ReEvolution · « **Reply #44 on:** August 23, 2006, 11:06:52 PM »

Quote from: IceCold on August 23, 2006, 10:38:45 PM

branch is too short to win the Olympia.

agreed. anybody under 5'8" will have a hard time winning the O from here on out. the best "taller" guys will always win the O.

waiting for all the short guys to chime in...................... ......

BayGBM · « **Reply #45 on:** August 24, 2006, 07:07:42 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on August 23, 2006, 10:07:17 PM

Although ironagers never admit this - pros like Branch Warren have one major flaw - they are TOO muscular. Ironagers will go on about lack of aesthetics of proportions or some other BS excuse, but the reality is that it IS possible to have too much muscle. Branch is just too thick to look aesthetic, regardless of how balanced his proportions are.

Ditto.

He's 5'6" isn't he? 'nuff said.

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #46 on:** August 24, 2006, 07:12:45 AM »

Quote from: ReEvolution on August 23, 2006, 11:06:52 PM

agreed. anybody under 5'8" will have a hard time winning the O from here on out. the best "taller" guys will always win the O.

waiting for all the short guys to chime in...................... ......

I am a short guy chiming in LoL...I have to agree though, history has proven that a short guy will never win at the big show...All us short guys can do is hope and dream of it one day...Although, we do have quite a contender in our corner now with Dex.....

tjd0200 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 24, 2006, 12:51:37 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on August 23, 2006, 09:42:36 PM

wrong
warren will be solid contender if he doesnt die before,, expect great things from him if he holds to life which i doubt will happen

Whoa!! What? Is his stack that much more/worse than everyone else's? Explain.

RJB · « **Reply #48 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:05:26 PM »

I bet he could. Dorian Yates had the same "shape" and Warren has the potential to be bigger.

Big Worm · « **Reply #49 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:29:26 PM »

Quote from: whitewidow on August 23, 2006, 08:00:10 PM

id have to say branch warren is the most hardcore BB I have ever seen- branch is more serious than a heart attack when it comes to training and bodybuilding- I think he has what it takes to be the next mr.O- Id say he beats ronny easily- hes more thick and dense like a new age dorian yates- im calling it right now- branch warren will be mr.olympia one day!

That's a negative Captainwidow!