Author Topic: Is Markus Ruhl the only guy who can realistically beat Ronnie? (Read 9038 times)

Royalty · « **on:** September 16, 2006, 08:07:51 AM »

Markus': Biceps, Delts, Traps, Pecs, Quads, calves, and Back width are even with Ronnies. Ronnie has the edge is over hardness and detail.

If Ruhl is tighter than ever and in the 280-285lb range he is the only guy that is in Ronnies territory

Ronnie and Markus both dwarf Jay

Stavios · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:08:43 AM »

I guess it's that time of the year again when you hype Markus ?

No he couldn't beat ronnie

Royalty · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:14:21 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on September 16, 2006, 08:08:43 AM

I guess it's that time of the year again when you hype Markus ?

No he couldn't beat ronnie

this is Markus' back in 2004 when he placed 5th. If he was a touch tighter he would have been 2nd or maybe 3rd.

gtbro1 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:14:34 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on September 16, 2006, 08:07:51 AM

Markus': Biceps, Delts, Traps, Pecs, Quads, calves, and Back width are even with Ronnies. Ronnie has the edge is over hardness and detail.

If Ruhl is tighter than ever and in the 280-285lb range he is the only guy that is in Ronnies territory

Ronnie and Markus both dwarf Jay

hahahahahahahahahaha

Stavios · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:16:58 AM »

Well if Markus get back to his old conditionning, he'll do damage

he didn't look really dry the last few years

jem123 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:24:38 AM »

To even suggest Markus, who I believe has only one maybe one pro show is the only BB who can perhaps beat ronnie is mindless. There are about six or seven BB in the world excluding ronnie who would beat Markus right now.

BB is not just about who is the biggest.

Royalty · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:25:06 AM »

lastrep · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:26:04 AM »

Not even close.. he'll never even tough top 3 at the O.

Wake up

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:28:16 AM »

Ruhl has to many structural flaws to take it from Big Ron...He has the size, but the detail and proportions will never be there.....

Royalty · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:30:57 AM »

Quote from: JaggyShortBuff on September 16, 2006, 08:28:16 AM

Ruhl has to many structural flaws to take it from Big Ron...He has the size, but the detail and proportions will never be there.....

what flaws? Ruhl has no real weak body parts. he just needs to get harder

Mars · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:32:29 AM »

Ruhl is too ugly to become weiders poster boy.

jem123 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:34:23 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on September 16, 2006, 08:30:57 AM

what flaws? Ruhl has no real weak body parts. he just needs to get harder

What Flaws?

Open your eyes. As big as he is, he looks like shit.

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:34:45 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on September 16, 2006, 08:30:57 AM

what flaws? Ruhl has no real weak body parts. he just needs to get harder

You can't be serious....Look, I think Ruhl is a monster non-the-less, but he is out of proportion all over...If they ever award quantity over quality than yes he will win, until then...No....

Royalty · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:38:31 AM »

Quote from: JaggyShortBuff on September 16, 2006, 08:34:45 AM

You can't be serious....Look, I think Ruhl is a monster non-the-less, but he is out of proportion all over...If they ever award quantity over quality than yes he will win, until then...No....

where is he out of proportion? what specific bodyparts do you see that are out of proportion?

JKDMan · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:39:22 AM »

Ruhl is nowhere close to Ronnie in back width. What are you smoking, so I can tell my pothead friends about it?

Ruhl is a huge freak, but his proportions are ALL jacked up. As big as Ronnie is, he does have some aesthetic flow to his physique. Ruhl's physique does not "flow" well at all.

Scimowser · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:40:28 AM »

Ruhl is at best a top 5 guy, but dont be fooled by his sheer mass. He will NEVER be good enough to beat Jay, let alone Ronnie. Markus just isnt put together well enough to beat them, although he does posess mass that even the most hardcore fan has to look twice at to believe it

legbreaker · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:41:42 AM »

Re: Is Markus Ruhl the only guy who can realistically beat Ronnie?

That comment is so far from reality it's incredible. marcus is a big guy, but obvious synthol/oil abuse, very very soft lower body and back and awkwardly odd rounded shoulders that do not change shape when they move. No Marcus can not beat even a 80% Ronnie Coleman. Jay and dexter and victor, Gunther (of course) and possibly others can.

Royalty · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:43:00 AM »

Quote from: JKDMan on September 16, 2006, 08:39:22 AM

Ruhl is nowhere close to Ronnie in back width. What are you smoking, so I can tell my pothead friends about it?

Ruhl is a huge freak, but his proportions are ALL jacked up. As big as Ronnie is, he does have some aesthetic flow to his physique. Ruhl's physique does not "flow" well at all.

Markus is the ball park. If Jays back width is getting Close to Ronnies then Markus back is closing in too. Markus' back is wider than Jays.

jem123 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:45:24 AM »

I will admit that Markus is a powerhouse, however bb is not just about size. Markus just does not have a pleasing look to his physique. Regardless of how we dress this up BB is about Size, Shape and proportion. Markus has the Size but at the top level falls very short in the other two.

(If you want to talk specific body parts Markus' triceps and Quads are to small for his upper body and is waist is too wide. Shoulders look full of shit as well.)

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:45:35 AM »

Ruhl has a bunch of huge body parts thrown together with no lines present that would have him come anywhere close to the top 3 currently and the new guys coming up have even better structural flow to their physiques...Ruhl will always be a showstopper no doubt, but he will never have the quality to beat structurally perfect bodybuilders....

Royalty · « **Reply #20 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:45:39 AM »

Quote from: legbreaker on September 16, 2006, 08:41:42 AM

dexter and victor, Gunther (of course) and possibly others can.

these guys will have to get past Branch Warren and Gustavo Badell before they can even think about Ronnie

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #21 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:49:24 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on September 16, 2006, 08:45:39 AM

these guys will have to get past Branch Warren and Gustavo Badell before they can even think about Ronnie

Gustavo Badell needs to watch his waistline....He impressed me at first, but these guys coming up are starting to show amazing conditioning and structure...Branch is a bodybuilder to look out for...But as they say a short guy will never take the current thrown...I would love to see it happen, but that is just a dream LoL.....

legbreaker · « **Reply #22 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:49:59 AM »

Possibly. I don't think Branch should be up there...he is thick as anything and balanced but, although lean, too blurry and not enough detail. the vascularity means nothing in bodybuilding at all...just means androgens...does NOT get involved in judging physiques and shouldn't. With a bit more size and the same conditioning dexter could be up there. With more conditioning vic can be up there.

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #23 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:52:28 AM »

Quote from: legbreaker on September 16, 2006, 08:49:59 AM

Possibly. I don't think Branch should be up there...he is thick as anything and balanced but, although lean, too blurry and not enough detail. the vascularity means nothing in bodybuilding at all...just means androgens...does NOT get involved in judging physiques and shouldn't. With a bit more size and the same conditioning dexter could be up there. With more conditioning vic can be up there.

Hey brother hate to tell ya this but Dex is already up there...He also has been up there for 2 years now...Vic, I would love to see come in completly dry and clean up the rest of the competition and that is a realistic truth...

legbreaker · « **Reply #24 on:** September 16, 2006, 08:55:00 AM »

by up there i'm only talking about 2nd or better.