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Re: PRIEST/ JABES SUSPENDED
« Reply #300 on: September 22, 2006, 08:38:32 AM »
John, conceptually interesting but perhaps not applicable. SAG and AFTRA are unions and as such fall under a whole different area of law. The IFBB is not a union. Entertainment or sports again is irrelevant, it is a private organization. The rules and regulations do not preclude anyone from making "as much money as they possibly can". They only preclude the issues regarding other federations etc.

Now let me be clear, I like Lee and enjoy his company and seeing him on stage. Let me also state that I am just fine with there being a PDI. I might joke about it here and there but I would be happy to see it successful. I believe in competition in business. But there is an important point here. Lee has perhaps caused the demise of the effectiveness of any action against the IFBB by showing that he can indeed earn monies in competition by competing outside of the IFBB. In creating the showdown by competing and winning in the PDI he may have lost any showing of damages against the IFBB.

Anyway John, I am sure you have done some competent research and would really be interested in hearing the concepts behind what you have learned, perhaps we could speak at the Olympia sometime when we get a chance. And Lee, let's talk too if you like. I have no horse (or in your case car) in this race. Just my humble opinions.

Thank you Ian.  I realize the difference between a union and a club.  The point I'm making is not whether or not the IFBB can promulgate a set of rules, the point is whether or not their rules are lawful.  A private club cannot enforce rules that are unlawful.

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Re: PRIEST/ JABES SUSPENDED
« Reply #301 on: September 22, 2006, 09:21:41 AM »
If the IFBB wants to sign athletes to contracts and pay them to compete for them, then that is another story.  Right now, bodybuilders are independent contractors/ free agents.  The IFBB's rules might say one cannot appear outside the federation, but now the legality of those rules is going to be explored. I think this is going to get interesting.

If the IFBB had the sense to just pay its pro card holders a few hundred bucks a year, they could have fortified their position immensely. They should have known this day might come eventually. Don't pros actually pay the IFBB to be members?

Imagine the YMCA telling you you can't use another gym...?!

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #302 on: September 22, 2006, 09:34:14 AM »
Perhaps I shall run for Athletes Rep in the spring.

honestly you are a smart kid and know the sport pretty well. You would have to mature a bit but i think you could pull it off.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #303 on: September 22, 2006, 09:42:56 AM »
honestly you are a smart kid and know the sport pretty well. You would have to mature a bit but i think you could pull it off.

yep, i agree on the maturity thing.  i've gotten a lot better, i used to be quite the prick here.  by spring i should be ready to give chic a run for his money.

bob, there's still time to shape up and do what's right for the guys!

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #304 on: September 22, 2006, 09:50:12 AM »
yep, i agree on the maturity thing.  i've gotten a lot better, i used to be quite the prick here.  by spring i should be ready to give chic a run for his money.

bob, there's still time to shape up and do what's right for the guys!

Well....while you're working on the maturity thing...you might want to take a minute to learn what the difference is between being a plaintiff and a defendant.

It might help you in your quest...

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #305 on: September 22, 2006, 09:52:20 AM »
Well....while you're working on the maturity thing...you might want to take a minute to learn what the difference is between being a plaintiff and a defendant.

It might help you in your quest...

I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #306 on: September 22, 2006, 09:57:06 AM »


www.helpleepriest.org


figure it out...


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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #307 on: September 22, 2006, 09:59:24 AM »
www.helpleepriest.org

figure it out...

That's not my website, Bob.  I didn't build it, nor do I have any part of it.  I have no knowledge of it other than what I read on getbig with everyone else.

So, um...

What did you mean by :
Well....while you're working on the maturity thing...you might want to take a minute to learn what the difference is between being a plaintiff and a defendant.

It might help you in your quest...

???

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #308 on: September 22, 2006, 10:00:37 AM »
My bad, bro...thought you built it.

who did?

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #309 on: September 22, 2006, 10:01:43 AM »
My bad, bro...thought you built it.

who did?

I dunno.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #310 on: September 22, 2006, 10:16:46 AM »
Clownboy-

Change your wording,and it will stay...keep posting it and I'll have you banned.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #311 on: September 22, 2006, 10:23:57 AM »
Clownboy-

Change your wording,and it will stay...keep posting it and I'll have you banned.




YOUR ASS WILL BANNED LIKE LEE PRIEST IS TO THE IFBB  :P

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #312 on: September 22, 2006, 10:38:51 AM »

www.helpleepriest.org






according to the site:

"Lee Priest will become part of bodybuilding history as the lone gladiator, "David", going up against giant, "Goliath", when he participates in what will be an EPIC battle against the IFBB's unfair business practices and anti-trust violations perpetrated against IFBB Pro bodybuilders. Lee will be fighting for the rights of all bodybuilders in all federations.

Help him with a donation to his legal defense fund! By making a donation you are showing your support for the sport of bodybuilding. A step in the right direction to make this a better sport for both the athletes and the fans! Lee thanks his fans for their continued support."



LEGAL DEFENSE FUND?  does this mean the ifbb is suing Lee?

 

 

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #313 on: September 22, 2006, 10:42:26 AM »
BINGO!


Lee said this site was made by a lawyer friend of his....

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #314 on: September 22, 2006, 10:48:30 AM »
BINGO!


Lee said this site was made by a lawyer friend of his....

Where did i say that? I said it was made by a fan  BOB please check your facts as usual you are WRONG

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #315 on: September 22, 2006, 11:01:05 AM »
Where did i say that? I said it was made by a fan  BOB please check your facts as usual you are WRONG

May want to check YOUR fact, or at least remember what YOU wrote, bro...




   
   
Re: Ok lets play :)
« Reply #71 on: September 21, 2006, 07:46:27 PM »
   



I didnt ask for the site it was done by the person.I know a lawyer who sees merit in the case who will take it with no mney up front....

Lee
So i didn't start the site or ask.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #316 on: September 22, 2006, 11:04:33 AM »
May want to check YOUR fact, or at least remember what YOU wrote, bro...




   
   
Re: Ok lets play :)
« Reply #71 on: September 21, 2006, 07:46:27 PM »
   



I didnt ask for the site it was done by the person.I know a lawyer who sees merit in the case who will take it with no mney up front....

Lee
So i didn't start the site or ask.


No Bobby BOY you read it wrong.It says i didn't ask anyone to do it.Then it says i know a lawyer who will take it with no money up front.Meaning i dont need money 2 different sentences.So BOB you LOOSE AGAIN.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #317 on: September 22, 2006, 11:07:01 AM »
Where did i say that? I said it was made by a fan  BOB please check your facts as usual you are WRONG

If you in no way endorse this site Lee, you should get your lawyer to talk to this guy. He may be sullying your name to scam people, for all you know. We've all seen how fast scammers come out of the woodwork after bona fide tragedies...(not that this qualifies as one) ;)

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #318 on: September 22, 2006, 11:08:57 AM »
If you in no way endorse this site Lee, you should get your lawyer to talk to this guy. He may be sullying your name to scam people, for all you know. We've all seen how fast scammers come out of the woodwork after bona fide tragedies...(not that this qualifies as one) ;)

No he is not a scammer he was just trying to help.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #319 on: September 22, 2006, 11:13:46 AM »
Ok,

I wrote my letter in support of Jabes/Priest.

I wonder how many letters from GetBig they will recieve?  Interesting to see how it will all pan out.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #320 on: September 22, 2006, 11:25:19 AM »
The point I'm making is not whether or not the IFBB can promulgate a set of rules, the point is whether or not their rules are lawful.  A private club cannot enforce rules that are unlawful.

Exactly correct.  Here's Bob's argument in a nutshell:


My country club has a "no negroes" rule. Rule 2.395 clearly states that if you try to bring a negro into the club with you, your membership will be suspended. By joining the club and signing your yearly membership card, you are agreeing to all the rules and regulations... after all, you don't have to join this club, there are other clubs out there.     If you don't agree with the rules, you are free not to join this club.

Anyway, last week my neighbor brought a negro into the club with him. He was fully aware of the rules when he did this, and knew it would result in his suspension. He, of course, was suspended for this. He says he's going to sue, but I think he's full of hot air... after all, he DID agree to the rules each and every time he renewed his membership. Since he's made it clear that he hates our club and its rules, I don't know why he's bothering... he should just go elsewhere anyway.


Ron: "I am lazy."

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #321 on: September 22, 2006, 11:31:02 AM »

Change your wording,and it will stay...

It was worded that way for a reason... to exaggerate the racist aspect of the rule.  But, in deference to the ridiculously oversensitive, I changed it.


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...keep posting it and I'll have you banned.

Blow me.

If Ron hasn't been able to effectively ban me, what makes you think you can? What are you gonna do, post my BB.com sales records?  ::)
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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #322 on: September 22, 2006, 11:44:26 AM »
Who cares

Nobody was crying when Lee didnt do the O last year. The O will go on without him.

Peace :)

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #323 on: September 22, 2006, 11:51:55 AM »
Blow me.

If Ron hasn't been able to effectively ban me, what makes you think you can? What are you gonna do, post my BB.com sales records?  ::)
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Ha! Ha! What about it Boob,I mean Bob, you going to ban everyone who doesn't see things your way. Kinda Ifbbish, aren't you. Except we don't give a rats-ass about your so-called statis or who you think you are.Do the right thing & back Lee, & don't do him like Aaron Baker was done either.

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Re: Lee Priest / Valentino Jabes: Suspended!
« Reply #324 on: September 22, 2006, 11:58:10 AM »
May want to check YOUR fact, or at least remember what YOU wrote, bro...




   
   
Re: Ok lets play :)
« Reply #71 on: September 21, 2006, 07:46:27 PM »
   



I didnt ask for the site it was done by the person.I know a lawyer who sees merit in the case who will take it with no mney up front....

Lee
So i didn't start the site or ask.


Bob, you truly have a interpretation problem. This might be why you are getting nowhere  with the IFBB.  No where in that letter does it say his attorney did the website.  Get your facts straight.  You are looking stupid.
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