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so i started to follow dexter on instagram and all he posts is shitty food like fried chicken candy bars cereals chips ice cream and all that crap.. and markus rühl used to say dexter is a genetic freak but i didnt believe him once dexter told to markus "u know how i do my diet, i only left the cheese from my hamburgers" im mirin dexters genetics
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Of course he is a genetic freak! So is every bodybuilder in the top ten of the Olympia, just varying degrees!
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Of course he is a genetic freak! So is every bodybuilder in the top ten of the Olympia, just varying degrees!
lol of course they are genetic freaks but not everyone of them eats shitty food like dexter
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Epic black genetics, they tend to have cuts and seperation and even abs from doing barely anything at all. They are lucky this way
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Vince Taylor could never give up Coca Cola or ketchup while he dieted.
Overall, he stated his dieting was pretty lax.
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Vince Taylor could never give up Coca Cola or ketchup while he dieted.
Overall, he stated his dieting was pretty lax.
at first i didnt believe in that too now after i have seen dexters pics i definitely believe them both.. it doesnt have to do with blacks not all the blacks have genetics like that but i have a very good friend also black he used to train but not serious lifter he is a little taller than me has a long torso but when he takes his shirt off he is fuckin shredded rockhard abs bigass chest and all and this guy barely trains and he doesnt diet at all eats shitty food like there is no tomorrow still stays shredded like that... thats fuckin crazy
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I think Dexter would look decent even if he was a natural bodybuilder.
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yah they do eat ketchup and such.
we have "digusted" here who knows dexters pre contest diet, the ruhl saying is widely exagarated,lol.
but off season i have no problem to believe hes eating bad calories.
genetics all the drugs and the size he will get away with those foods,for a while.
he just will not be shredded.
and question is, how much of that stuff hes eating.
as for vince taylor, i remember his diet being kinda pale and simple,for lack of funds.
he can be asked on facbook,he replies nicely to questions
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yah they do eat ketchup and such.
we have "digusted" here who knows dexters pre contest diet, the ruhl saying is widely exagarated,lol.
but off season i have no problem to believe hes eating bad calories.
genetics all the drugs and the size he will get away with those foods,for a while.
he just will not be shredded.
and question is, how much of that stuff hes eating.
as for vince taylor, i remember his diet being kinda pale and simple,for lack of funds.
he can be asked on facbook,he replies nicely to questions
As far as Dexter goes he has stated in interviews he is not a big eater, so as far the bad calories go you are probably right, he is not eating a tremendous amount!
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so i started to follow dexter on instagram and all he posts is shitty food like fried chicken candy bars cereals chips ice cream and all that crap.. and markus rühl used to say dexter is a genetic freak but i didnt believe him once dexter told to markus "u know how i do my diet, i only left the cheese from my hamburgers" im mirin dexters genetics
If youre wating for him to post pics of "the real deal" ....you are naive.
They (pro BB) post all the junk crap so we can look at them as genetic freaks, in reality he would have been a buck 50 without PEDs not even average genetics.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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In 1991 all the pro`s trained at our gym before the british gp,and they would ask me to show them where the supermarkets were to buy chicken,rice,tuna,distilled water etc,but Renel Janvier (with the ripped hamstrings and glutes) wanted to know where mcdonalds was in town.The 3-4 days he was here he ate every meal there and came to the nightclub i worked at and drunk beer all night.His idea of dieting was to have one bigmac less per day.Some people just have ultra fast metabolisms.
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Please Mr. Go home and inject 2 gram testo in your ass and 10 iu gh and then come back and talk cardio food and shit! U will get a new perspective in life! Stupid ass!
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i love this julio cesar poster, every sinlge post is a breakdown-meltdown ;D
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i love this julio cesar poster, every sinlge post is a breakdown-meltdown ;D
LOL ;D
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Please Mr. Go home and inject 2 gram testo in your ass and 10 iu gh and then come back and talk cardio food and shit! U will get a new perspective in life! Stupid ass!
lol if it was all about gear than every pro would eat shit foods.. u have no idea how the body works
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All the drugs these dudes take make "dieting" mostly pointless, from a bodybuilding perspective. I've been around countless pros (black and white) who eat like shit, generally, and still are huge and come into competitions ripped.
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All the drugs these dudes take make "dieting" mostly pointless, from a bodybuilding perspective. I've been around countless pros (black and white) who eat like shit, generally, and still are huge and come into competitions ripped.
AGREE 100%
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I know many skinny dudes who eat like shit and are ripped. Dexter is just a skinny guy like that but on drugs.
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I'M SURE DNP/T3/T4/CLEN ALL HELP IN THE EAT WHATEVER I WANT PROCESS....
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they used to say the same stuff about jumbo palumbo e.g. needs to eat mccdonalds or he loses weight.
what they didn't mention was handfuls of t3 he was swallowing every day
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Not all black people have superior genetics.
If that was the case how would you explain Goodrum?
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Not all black people have superior genetics.
If that was the case how would you explain Goodrum?
Most wealthy, successful business tycoons are overweight. Goodrum is no exception.
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Most wealthy, successful business tycoons are overweight. Goodrum is no exception.
lol. goodrum is eating good. ceo 10k/day status with his 10/10 supermodel wife queen vissy
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Metabolism. One of the guys I know was at a wedding Buffett I was at 3 days before a show, he went to town probably ate 5 plates then cake. He came first. His metabolism is crazy fast always eating junk.
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gh15 said you can eat what ever the f you want on gh and tren bodyfat still melts away. probably "some" truth in that
drug users on here can expand on that.
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I've taken tren and gh and listened to that shit and put on a lot of weight. Crap metabolism
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And yes it was legit kigs
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yah at times you can get away with shit foods.sometimes the body needs it.
do not forget the pros train twice daily with intensity from outer space compared to us mortals.and hours and hours of cardio
the tran+gh howveer do not equalise or do away with the rule that calries dont matter anymore.
many ppl are on tren and gh,wheres the pics?
nowhere.thats where.
as for the stories of the guy who ate out a buffet 3 days before contest.ofc ,but he didnt do it every single day.
you can get away with this when so deplted from dieting, no problem.esp near contest time.
often the ones sticking to perfect plan diet come bit flat, while the ones who cheated on diet come fuller.
however, when the cheaters come in bloofy, everyone says look he didnt diet right.
well, thats precisely those few cheat meals too much and boom, spilled over.
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Epic black genetics, they tend to have cuts and seperation and even abs from doing barely anything at all. They are lucky this way
doing barely anything at all!!!!???? the guy has trained for 25 fucking years......and he does diet for at least 8 weeks prior to a show......great genes yes!!!! but the guy trains consistently and does work with farah pre contest.
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I think Dexter would look decent even if he was a natural bodybuilder.
decent?
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He was -6% show day too. He can't last until cheat meal day as it's too long for his body. He's under 12% all yeah round binge eating. Just one of those ultra ecomorphs
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He was -6% show day too. He can't last until cheat meal day as it's too long for his body. He's under 12% all yeah round binge eating. Just one of those ultra ecomorphs
hm, im something like that too, even natty and not even training.
but wouldnt call that ectomorph i think.
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you'd be amazed with what gh and tren allow you to get away with in terms of the types of food you eat and how often you eat them. like truly amazed.
i have zero doubt dexter eats everything he says he does.
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DNA + PED
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Regarding this subject, I would like to show you a real example. Both my transformations started at almost identical points, and the stacks were:
first transf: 6 weeks (167lbs - 211). .. 700 tren, 700 prop, 700 dbol a week, 75mc T3, 80mcg clen
second: 5 weeks(163lbs-185) .. 1g tren, 350 prop, 350 dbol a week, 50-75 mcg T3, 80mcg clen, some crystal meth
the only difference is obviously the diet .. training was identical for both transformations and so I am not buying the junk food hoopla regarding tren .. if he is on 2g tren and some ungodly amount of hgh then it's diff ..plus he has a faster metabolism than mine
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lol at ppl still believing the broccoli myth
a calori that is not a protein is just a calori
a protein is a superior calori
but a protein is also just a protein
in the end all that matters is enough calories and proteins
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gh15 said you can eat what ever the f you want on gh and tren bodyfat still melts away. probably "some" truth in that
drug users on here can expand on that.
Why don't the doctors or the prescribers praise these products in the eyes of the consumers and especially obese people?? ???
Despite the bad side effects you can prescribe an appropriate dosage depending on the person's characteristics (weight, age, antecedents etc...).
Or maybe another GH15's "exaggeration"...
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I saw Dex this past August at his Dexter Jackson Classic show. He was training and dieting for the O then. During the show, he had a cooler next to his chair and I thought he had his meals in it. But it was full of Coke Zero. He drank about 15 cans of that, one after the other while sitting there. No food at all.
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lol at ppl still believing the broccoli myth
a calori that is not a protein is just a calori
a protein is a superior calori
but a protein is also just a protein
in the end all that matters is enough calories and proteins
these guys have no fucking clue what they are talking about bro... It's a game of drugs...with the exception of maybe dennis wolf (as far as white guys go) these pros are average guys. 95% of the people who disagree with me have NEVER taken a pro stack in their life and probably wont. So there opinion means nothing to me. shit ive never ran anything close to a pro stack.
Until someone comes forward and says "flinstones, I took 15iu genotropin a day and 5 grams of testosterone per week and trained my ass off and ate like I should of for the past 3 years and am still 220lbs, you are wrong"
..then I might listen. but no its always "I know someone who took this and this" ;D
anyone here with decent genetics can achieve a massive, lean pro like body. the only ones who disagree with me, either are the worst responders in the world, or they don't have the balls to risk their health. everyone here looks exactly like what they take, you actually look better than 90% of guys who take what you take (assuming your telling the truth) you are your dose...
in before some guy on 4iu HGH per day and a gram of gear per week disagrees with me. Like he fucking knows
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as much as I hate all you guys I have to say there really are some great physiques on this board for what they take. Exceptional...
You guys give the pros too much credit imo. they are not superheroes....6 months off shit and they would be 180lbs like every mortal man would.
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these guys have no fucking clue what they are talking about bro... It's a game of drugs...with the exception of maybe dennis wolf (as far as white guys go) these pros are average guys. 95% of the people who disagree with me have NEVER taken a pro stack in their life and probably wont. So there opinion means nothing to me. shit ive never ran anything close to a pro stack.
Until someone comes forward and says "flinstones, I took 15iu genotropin a day and 5 grams of testosterone per week and trained my ass off and ate like I should of for the past 3 years and am still 220lbs, you are wrong"
..then I might listen. but no its always "I know someone who took this and this" ;D
anyone here with decent genetics can achieve a massive, lean pro like body. the only ones who disagree with me, either are the worst responders in the world, or they don't have the balls to risk their health. everyone here looks exactly like what they take, you actually look better than 90% of guys who take what you take (assuming your telling the truth) you are your dose...
in before some guy on 4iu HGH per day and a gram of gear per week disagrees with me. Like he fucking knows
i wasnt even talking about drugs
i was just saying at the end of the day a calori is a calori, a protein is a protein, a fat is a fat, a carb is a carb
no matter what magical diet you try, the above cant be changed
omg dexter so ripped and he eats KETCHUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! omg omg omg
geneteic freaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaak
well he is a freak but thats not the point
ketchup is just a carb
a carb is just a calori
a calori just a calori
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As I said before, a guy with naturally low body fat on drugs. I've seen a picture of his relatives and it's obvious the difference drugs make.
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to say "can eat whatever you want" defies science and logic.
anyone who opened up a medical book on how food is metabolised would know this.
theres only calories needs.specific macro needs.
all food metabolised by liver then it goes from there.its not very hard to understand.
ofc can eat what you want, but the results and consequences arent the same.
can one eat a mcdonalds menue daily and be lean and muscular?of course.
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As I said before, a guy with naturally low body fat on drugs. I've seen a picture of his relatives and it's obvious the difference drugs make.
Tricky Jackson is his cousin, and is the same height, yet competes in the 212s.
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to say "can eat whatever you want" defies science and logic.
anyone who opened up a medical book on how food is metabolised would know this.
theres only calories needs.specific macro needs.
all food metabolised by liver then it goes from there.its not very hard to understand.
ofc can eat what you want, but the results and consequences arent the same.
can one eat a mcdonalds menue daily and be lean and muscular?of course.
medical science doesnt distinguish between a calori and a calori
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Tricky Jackson is his cousin, and is the same height, yet competes in the 212s.
I think tricky has a better build.
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so i started to follow dexter on instagram and all he posts is shitty food like fried chicken candy bars cereals chips ice cream and all that crap.. and markus rühl used to say dexter is a genetic freak but i didnt believe him once dexter told to markus "u know how i do my diet, i only left the cheese from my hamburgers" im mirin dexters genetics
Makes no difference what you eat, Lifetime Natural or not. We have been over this ad nauseam. Hope this helps.
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Regarding this subject, I would like to show you a real example. Both my transformations started at almost identical points, and the stacks were:
first transf: 6 weeks (167lbs - 211). .. 700 tren, 700 prop, 700 dbol a week, 75mc T3, 80mcg clen
second: 5 weeks(163lbs-185) .. 1g tren, 350 prop, 350 dbol a week, 50-75 mcg T3, 80mcg clen, some crystal meth
the only difference is obviously the diet .. training was identical for both transformations and so I am not buying the junk food hoopla regarding tren .. if he is on 2g tren and some ungodly amount of hgh then it's diff ..plus he has a faster metabolism than mine
Coulda been the glass in the second set that made the diff, bro.
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Different macros stimulant different hormones differently that ultimately dictate a preference for fat burning or fat storage. The oversimplification of the "cal is just a cal" argument is laughed at by anyone with a decent grasp of biochemistry.
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Different macros stimulant different hormones differently that ultimately dictate a preference for fat burning or fat storage. The oversimplification of the "cal is just a cal" argument is laughed at by anyone with a decent grasp of biochemistry.
Yes, because the average person is not getting adequate nutrition in their diet. ::)
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Different macros stimulant different hormones differently that ultimately dictate a preference for fat burning or fat storage. The oversimplification of the "cal is just a cal" argument is laughed at by anyone with a decent grasp of biochemistry.
Still waiting on those peer reviewed studies you promised. :D :D :D
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I think tricky has a better build.
close,,tricky has better legs ,they are similar through the torso,dex has better muscle shape and fuller look,but its close,yes tricky looks great but dex has him overall 'look'and tricky claimed natural for yrs..
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so i started to follow dexter on instagram and all he posts is shitty food like fried chicken candy bars cereals chips ice cream and all that crap.. and markus rühl used to say dexter is a genetic freak but i didnt believe him once dexter told to markus "u know how i do my diet, i only left the cheese from my hamburgers" im mirin dexters genetics
Actually Dex is eating like that lately cause he's not doing any shows. He's pretty much on a diet when show time rolls around , but a bit more "loose diet" with higher carbs
Trust me he ain't eating burgers or fried chicken 24/7
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Not all black people have superior genetics.
If that was the case how would you explain Goodrum?
he's a genetic anomaly
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medical science doesnt distinguish between a calori and a calori
uhm, yes they do,lol.
i mean calorie is an energy measure parameter,it means not much.
they do distingiush between macros.
its fully explained and proven what happens when food is consumed.
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I don't see why people worry about other people's genetics. I've seen guys eat clean and look like shit, or guys eating clean who look phenomenal. I know guys taking tons of gear that look like shit and other guys taking tons of gear that look amazing.
It's not worth investing time in scrutinizing what everyone else is doing. Take a glance at another person's regimen and if he's got a good physique, maybe there are some things you can take away from it. But it still comes down to your body and your genetics. Focus mostly on yourself, not others. Some people have better genetics and some people have shittier ones.
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Dexter dieted just like everyone else. As the show got closer the calories got lower. There are no secrets to getting ripped and it takes will power and it sucks.
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Dexter dieted just like everyone else. As the show got closer the calories got lower. There are no secrets to getting ripped and it takes will power and it sucks.
This ^.
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I don't see why people worry about other people's genetics. I've seen guys eat clean and look like shit, or guys eating clean who look phenomenal. I know guys taking tons of gear that look like shit and other guys taking tons of gear that look amazing.
It's not worth investing time in scrutinizing what everyone else is doing. Take a glance at another person's regimen and if he's got a good physique, maybe there are some things you can take away from it. But it still comes down to your body and your genetics. Focus mostly on yourself, not others. Some people have better genetics and some people have shittier ones.
agree, by all means, if one can get shredded and big on junkfood, go for it, make it happen ;D
i seen some arabic guys who are just as shredded as me and they sit there all day and drink normal coke!!(lol), fruits by the 100s of gramms, none of that protein business, talked to one and he said he knows protein, but he doesnt like that aproach he tries it with carbs instead.
haha, if i tried that, id be the second coming of fatpanda in no time.
i seen ppl on insulin who are suprisingly lean, no idea how that works
but what certainly can be done, my leans with clean diet and 1 icecream or burger a day, this is easy easy doable for anyone.
in the end its pretty much about how lean one can stay on what amount of gear.
but GETTING shredded, there are no secrets at all, there will be hunger, there will be low blood sugar sensations, there will be flatness, there will be uncomfy times.
Dexter dieted just like everyone else. As the show got closer the calories got lower. There are no secrets to getting ripped and it takes will power and it sucks.
thanks bro i was waiting for you to chime in.
bbuilders have this thing "i eat all kinds of crap and get shredded", to pretend being special.nobody gets to 5% effortlessly.
adonis is one of them but his diet aproach has some merit for natties.
one might think their huge muscle mass burns much more cals(well if its something,its the muscle doing the burning, not the drugs,that simply hard to get into the newcomers heads, when they have the muscle,the muscle will burn extra energy, this doesnt mean a newcomer skeletonlike skinnyfaty teen can use same drugs and expect same metabolism), which it does, but its not that dramatic.
levrone diet pre contest,all fish and brokoli.ask him why that is,ppl.
theres a guy where docs have measured his rest rate metabolism, hes 400lbs, fat yeah but plenty muscle there, they say its 4000cals.do the math.
400lbs is basicaly 2 male specimen,lol.consider this.
the scenario of getting away with a binge short before contest is no suprise, some load up like that before contests, others cant bear the diet and run into a mcdonalds 3 days before and eat out the buffet.i know one guy who recently did this and was still the most shredded out there, a junior competitor, but he sticked to diet for 4months religiously before that.
no easy way out, if there was , youd see it in the gym and everywhere
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Regarding this subject, I would like to show you a real example. Both my transformations started at almost identical points, and the stacks were:
first transf: 6 weeks (167lbs - 211). .. 700 tren, 700 prop, 700 dbol a week, 75mc T3, 80mcg clen
second: 5 weeks(163lbs-185) .. 1g tren, 350 prop, 350 dbol a week, 50-75 mcg T3, 80mcg clen, some crystal meth
the only difference is obviously the diet .. training was identical for both transformations and so I am not buying the junk food hoopla regarding tren .. if he is on 2g tren and some ungodly amount of hgh then it's diff ..plus he has a faster metabolism than mine
Good transformation
I would think dexs metabolism slowed down tremendously being 44 , he did say he had to change his diet and training accordingly. He prob did eat more junk when he was younger but still dieted just like other pros come show time
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I used to train with a Black Haitian dude who never dieted for a show and was always ripped! Always won his class or was 2nd! We all probably know someone with those genetics and metabolism!
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Yes, because the average person is not getting adequate nutrition in their diet. ::)
Correct. There are some serious issues regarding nutrition in the USA. A traditional metabolic analysis on your average 40yo American will show some serious issues regarding "adequate nutrition."
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Still waiting on those peer reviewed studies you promised. :D :D :D
Soon.....(maybe tonight if I get bored enough to upload :P)
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The oversimplification of the "cal is just a cal" argument is laughed at by anyone with a decent grasp of biochemistry.
^
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i wasnt even talking about drugs
i was just saying at the end of the day a calori is a calori, a protein is a protein, a fat is a fat, a carb is a carb
no matter what magical diet you try, the above cant be changed
omg dexter so ripped and he eats KETCHUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! omg omg omg
geneteic freaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaak
well he is a freak but thats not the point
ketchup is just a carb
a carb is just a calori
a calori just a calori
Proteins are broken down into essential, non-essential, and conditional amino acids, which directly relate to how efficient the protein is synthesized in the body.
Ketchup isn't simply a carb, as is mostly comprised of sugar and sodium. Makes it kind of at the lower end of the food spectrum.
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so i started to follow dexter on instagram and all he posts is shitty food like fried chicken candy bars cereals chips ice cream and all that crap.. and markus rühl used to say dexter is a genetic freak but i didnt believe him once dexter told to markus "u know how i do my diet, i only left the cheese from my hamburgers" im mirin dexters genetics
It's the drugs bro.
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Coulda been the glass in the second set that made the diff, bro.
;Dthank god someone got that
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Proteins are broken down into essential, non-essential, and conditional amino acids, which directly relate to how efficient the protein is synthesized in the body.
Ketchup isn't simply a carb, as is mostly comprised of sugar and sodium. Makes it kind of at the lower end of the food spectrum.
Good post, Kunt.
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Adonis has NO diet. Stop with that idiotic nonsense. When he got in shape he struggled to diet strict and took drugs like the rest of us.
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people still say its all drugs.. u guys are killin me, i know dexter diets like everybody else for the shows but seriously in off season i dont think he eats clean all the time.. besides if it was all about drugs then why doesnt every pro eat like that? do u think they enjoy eating chicken and rice all year? its all about genetics and genetic response to drugs and at dexters age there is no way he is abusing fat burning drugs like dnp and shit.. u talk like its not harmful at all.. we all know dnp killed many bbers and people who wanted to get in shape..
these guys have no fucking clue what they are talking about bro... It's a game of drugs...with the exception of maybe dennis wolf (as far as white guys go) these pros are average guys. 95% of the people who disagree with me have NEVER taken a pro stack in their life and probably wont. So there opinion means nothing to me. shit ive never ran anything close to a pro stack.
so you never took pro cycle then why are u talkin like u know whats goin on in pro bb? u just owned urself here.. nothing against you or your physique but that was very stupid from you.. and about dennis wolf believe it or not he is one of the worst abusers look at his fuckin arms here
dont say its because of colour because its not.. his liver seems fucked up and we all know he walks around with red face all the time and plus he looks like he is in his mid 50s..
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Adonis has NO diet. Stop with that idiotic nonsense. When he got in shape he struggled to diet strict and took drugs like the rest of us.
this is true.
the vast majority of ppl will be eating protein mostly and a little bit of the other other macros towards the bitter end,where truly shredded.
i finnd myself in denial about this at times too, saying this shape is good enough, eating not so clean, but there will always be that layer of fat, cardio or not, until the cals go real low.
the midset for me must be those meals must be looked at like gifts, only then itll work.
coming from overeating, the last polishing is madness and unimaginable. ;D
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3 things work,,training/food/drugs...simple formula,,if u do other avenue minus drugs to be ripped stay ripped train/food..
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;Dthank god someone got that
Jumped out at me. Musta been the Breaking Bad marathon.
It's like a proof that nobody reads the gear breakdown, they just look at the number of total grams.
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Genetic is the most important thing in bodybuilding.
Tolerance to drugs, ability to eat high quantities of food without getting nauseous, strong joints to tolerate the heavy workouts the drugs allow, psicological consistency anf focus and discipline.
And finally, the body response to all of that.
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Jumped out at me. Musta been the Breaking Bad marathon.
It's like a proof that nobody reads the gear breakdown, they just look at the number of total grams.
haha yes, I wanted to make sure people pay attention to what I write
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Ketchup isn't simply a carb, as is mostly comprised of sugar and sodium. Makes it kind of at the lower end of the food spectrum.
pointless comment
fruit is also sugar
sodium doesnt affect bf or muscle mass
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close,,tricky has better legs ,they are similar through the torso,dex has better muscle shape and fuller look,but its close,yes tricky looks great but dex has him overall 'look'and tricky claimed natural for yrs..
I always thought tricky had a shape similar to Freeman's. He claimed natural? hahaha.
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I always thought tricky had a shape similar to Freeman's. He claimed natural? hahaha.
TURNED PRO THROUGH TEAM UNIVERSE..
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TURNED PRO THROUGH TEAM UNIVERSE..
Looks like Team Falcon is his next thing to achieve.
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pointless comment
fruit is also sugar
sodium doesnt affect bf or muscle mass
Fructose and Glucose break down in the body differently.
Fructose breaks down in your liver and doesn’t provoke an insulin response.
Glucose tends to break down more quickly, and in the stomach, provoking an insulin response.
Overall, that piece of fruit is much better for you, even with ignoring any additional vitamins and antioxidants that are not found in processed sugar. Think of it as time-released energy.
You are right about sodium... It has no effect on building muscle. But maintaining proper sodium levels help regulate blood pressure and stress hormones. That is a good thing, especially pre-contest.
Honestly, I am not a nutrition expert. I studied and experimented quite a bit when I competed, and while I took a few Chemistry classes in college.
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well you may have some points
but i just dont believe that assuming you use common sense and dont eat like a fat bastard
the occasional fast food meal (a normal sized one and i said OCCASIONAL) will not make the difference between mister olympia and 15th plac
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well you may have some points
but i just dont believe that assuming you use common sense and dont eat like a fat bastard
the occasional fast food meal (a normal sized one and i said OCCASIONAL) will not make the difference between mister olympia and 15th plac
Agreed. There are a lot of variables to that equation, and a few meals
won't make a difference in the world.
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Genetics are everything in bodybuilding. Without them you absolutely cannot succeed, no matter how much money and dope you have.
You take all the pharmaceuticals away from the Olympia contenders and they will still look better than what you think is the "best" bodybuilder in your gym.
Every once in a while you will see these genetics in a young person. You know what they could look like if they trained consistently and ate accordingly... not to mention the "supplemental" additives ~
Same in baseball. The Pros today started out as exceptional little boys. They were already light-years ahead of the rest. Take away their PED's and they will still be better than the "best" player at your local baseball park.
These guys absolutely cannot eat "clean' year round. IF they did, they wouldn't have anywhere to go in the "pre-contest" stage of their prep. Think about it. Why would their bodies even bother to respond? Stasis has already been reached for far too long, hence Lee Priest's "Duncin Donuts" gift cards and KFC ~
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Genetics are everything in bodybuilding. Without them you absolutely cannot succeed, no matter how much money and dope you have.
You take all the pharmaceuticals away from the Olympia contenders and they will still look better than what you think is the "best" bodybuilder in your gym.
Every once in a while you will see these genetics in a young person. You know what they could look like if they trained consistently and ate accordingly... not to mention the "supplemental" additives ~
Same in baseball. The Pros today started out as exceptional little boys. They were already light-years ahead of the rest. Take away their PED's and they will still be better than the "best" player at your local baseball park.
These guys absolutely cannot eat "clean' year round. IF they did, they wouldn't have anywhere to go in the "pre-contest" stage of their prep. Think about it. Why would their bodies even bother to respond? Stasis has already been reached for far too long, hence Lee Priest's "Duncin Donuts" gift cards and KFC ~
i agree, i took away the peds and still look damn jacked :D
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this is true.
the vast majority of ppl will be eating protein mostly and a little bit of the other other macros towards the bitter end,where truly shredded.
i finnd myself in denial about this at times too, saying this shape is good enough, eating not so clean, but there will always be that layer of fat, cardio or not, until the cals go real low.
the midset for me must be those meals must be looked at like gifts, only then itll work.
coming from overeating, the last polishing is madness and unimaginable. ;D
This is not true at all. No drugs ever and my calories come mostly from carbs and fats. I usually eat around 30-100 grams of protein only.
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so i started to follow dexter on instagram and all he posts is shitty food like fried chicken candy bars cereals chips ice cream and all that crap.. and markus rühl used to say dexter is a genetic freak but i didnt believe him once dexter told to markus "u know how i do my diet, i only left the cheese from my hamburgers" im mirin dexters genetics
Dexter jackson a genetic free-- No way!
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btw just in general, by default, everyone who makes it onto the olympia stage,is a genetic freak, no matter the drugs, its the absolute gentic elite there.
if that werent the case, duh, wed see diferent faces there.
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btw just in general, by default, everyone who makes it onto the olympia stage,is a genetic freak, no matter the drugs, its the absolute gentic elite there.
if that werent the case, duh, wed see diferent faces there.
X2
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Fructose and Glucose break down in the body differently.
Fructose breaks down in your liver and doesn’t provoke an insulin response.
Glucose tends to break down more quickly, and in the stomach, provoking an insulin response.
Overall, that piece of fruit is much better for you, even with ignoring any additional vitamins and antioxidants that are not found in processed sugar. Think of it as time-released energy.
You are right about sodium... It has no effect on building muscle. But maintaining proper sodium levels help regulate blood pressure and stress hormones. That is a good thing, especially pre-contest.
Honestly, I am not a nutrition expert. I studied and experimented quite a bit when I competed, and while I took a few Chemistry classes in college.
Fructose will not elicit an insulin response ???
Do you have anything to back up this claim because I've never seen this anywhere in any Biochem text.
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Fructose will not elicit an insulin response ???
Do you have anything to back up this claim because I've never seen this anywhere in any Biochem text.
hes right kinda, maybe the american term is different and hes foreign speaker.
he dont mean fructose syrup.
he means the sugar in fruit.
but to say no insulin respone is bit off, should have said almost none.its very minimal.
theres many many different kinds of sugars, one is galactose, and theyre all metabolised quite differently.
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Genetics are everything in bodybuilding. Without them you absolutely cannot succeed, no matter how much money and dope you have.
You take all the pharmaceuticals away from the Olympia contenders and they will still look better than what you think is the "best" bodybuilder in your gym.
Every once in a while you will see these genetics in a young person. You know what they could look like if they trained consistently and ate accordingly... not to mention the "supplemental" additives ~
Same in baseball. The Pros today started out as exceptional little boys. They were already light-years ahead of the rest. Take away their PED's and they will still be better than the "best" player at your local baseball park.
These guys absolutely cannot eat "clean' year round. IF they did, they wouldn't have anywhere to go in the "pre-contest" stage of their prep. Think about it. Why would their bodies even bother to respond? Stasis has already been reached for far too long, hence Lee Priest's "Duncin Donuts" gift cards and KFC ~
big lie
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If youre wating for him to post pics of "the real deal" ....you are naive.
They (pro BB) post all the junk crap so we can look at them as genetic freaks, in reality he would have been a buck 50 without PEDs not even average genetics.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Is this what you tell yourself when you look in the mirror and not only have no muscle but still have that flabby belly and those sad teets.... You need to understand that you can never bring everyone else down enough to elevate yourself - get off your arse and lift yourself!! I feel pity - truly - for all of the lil guys that scream "all drugs" - "I could be like that if I just did the drugs that he does".... There are some normal - successful guys that come to sites like this to get a little escape from the hectic real world and laugh at some of the witty posts... Its just kind of sad to see the guys that live here - that don't really have much of a life in the real world - that wish they had muscle SO BAD - and yet are so frustrated that they flip the script and come to GB as champions of the natural no muscle look!! If you only realized that its not shitty genetics like you think you have - ANYONE can build a strong physique and many can build a physique that would have half of GB screaming all drugs - without a drop of juice or a single pill... Its a new year - make something happen and just try to go a full month without allowing yourself a negative thought - EVERYTIME you feel one brewing - force yourself to think positive... See what happens..
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Is this what you tell yourself when you look in the mirror and not only have no muscle but still have that flabby belly and those sad teets.... You need to understand that you can never bring everyone else down enough to elevate yourself - get off your arse and lift yourself!! I feel pity - truly - for all of the lil guys that scream "all drugs" - "I could be like that if I just did the drugs that he does".... There are some normal - successful guys that come to sites like this to get a little escape from the hectic real world and laugh at some of the witty posts... Its just kind of sad to see the guys that live here - that don't really have much of a life in the real world - that wish they had muscle SO BAD - and yet are so frustrated that they flip the script and come to GB as champions of the natural no muscle look!! If you only realized that its not shitty genetics like you think you have - ANYONE can build a strong physique and many can build a physique that would have half of GB screaming all drugs - without a drop of juice or a single pill... Its a new year - make something happen and just try to go a full month without allowing yourself a negative thought - EVERYTIME you feel one brewing - force yourself to think positive... See what happens..
thanks man,,really tony..
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Genetics are everything in bodybuilding. Without them you absolutely cannot succeed, no matter how much money and dope you have.
You take all the pharmaceuticals away from the Olympia contenders and they will still look better than what you think is the "best" bodybuilder in your gym.
Every once in a while you will see these genetics in a young person. You know what they could look like if they trained consistently and ate accordingly... not to mention the "supplemental" additives ~
Same in baseball. The Pros today started out as exceptional little boys. They were already light-years ahead of the rest. Take away their PED's and they will still be better than the "best" player at your local baseball park.
These guys absolutely cannot eat "clean' year round. IF they did, they wouldn't have anywhere to go in the "pre-contest" stage of their prep. Think about it. Why would their bodies even bother to respond? Stasis has already been reached for far too long, hence Lee Priest's "Duncin Donuts" gift cards and KFC ~
Haha I hope u are being sarcastic to a point! Majority of the pros are under 5'10 and most likely ectos,(that's a plus imo) what makes them exceptional (top pros) are their response and ability to take copious amounts with minimum sides.
Even the great flex wheeler considered one of the best all time suffered kidney issues
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btw just in general, by default, everyone who makes it onto the olympia stage,is a genetic freak, no matter the drugs, its the absolute gentic elite there.
if that werent the case, duh, wed see diferent faces there.
Even branch? :D
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Is this what you tell yourself when you look in the mirror and not only have no muscle but still have that flabby belly and those sad teets.... You need to understand that you can never bring everyone else down enough to elevate yourself - get off your arse and lift yourself!! I feel pity - truly - for all of the lil guys that scream "all drugs" - "I could be like that if I just did the drugs that he does".... There are some normal - successful guys that come to sites like this to get a little escape from the hectic real world and laugh at some of the witty posts... Its just kind of sad to see the guys that live here - that don't really have much of a life in the real world - that wish they had muscle SO BAD - and yet are so frustrated that they flip the script and come to GB as champions of the natural no muscle look!! If you only realized that its not shitty genetics like you think you have - ANYONE can build a strong physique and many can build a physique that would have half of GB screaming all drugs - without a drop of juice or a single pill... Its a new year - make something happen and just try to go a full month without allowing yourself a negative thought - EVERYTIME you feel one brewing - force yourself to think positive... See what happens..
good post.
instead of crying all drugs, can join a gym, start to eat properly and see how it goes.
time they have, will to drag themselves to a gym they dont.
but they are living confident in the assurance that if only they had the right drugs,theyd be monsters too.
its so stupid i dont know where to start, they will never ever come anywhere near a gym entrance anyway.
its like a homeless talking about 100million real esates and villas
Even branch? :D
yes even him, they ust go out of their way and push it too far in the mass game and at some point only the inner organs and the obliques will grow anymore.
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Fructose will not elicit an insulin response ???
Do you have anything to back up this claim because I've never seen this anywhere in any Biochem text.
I absolutely cannot believe the nutrition "factoids" that are constantly being given out on this forum.
Yes, there is empirical data (that is, information from experience just to save {some} of you some time) and there is also dietetic, clinical nutritional fact. Not subjective... OBJECTIVE.
Before people start spouting about things they know nothing about, they may want to qualify themselves (can you say "education?") before they speak (or type)
So much nonsense. No wonder everyone here is pretty much lost in fat pig land.
Am I being condescending or am I just being perceptive and making an observation?
Look around in your gym. How many guys are big and ripped?
I didn't think so...
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hes right kinda, maybe the american term is different and hes foreign speaker.
he dont mean fructose syrup.
he means the sugar in fruit.
but to say no insulin respone is bit off, should have said almost none.its very minimal.
theres many many different kinds of sugars, one is galactose, and theyre all metabolised quite differently.
My fructose reference was to fruit sugar. No insulin response was a bit off, but overall I was only comparing it to processed sugar.
Born and raised in the US. At times though, I feel like I am in a foreign land.
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My fructose reference was to fruit sugar. No insulin response was a bit off, but overall I was only comparing it to processed sugar.
Born and raised in the US. At times though, I feel like I am in a foreign land.
Gotcha.
I was gonna say, that was a bold claim to make bro :)
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Dexter eating like a pig 365... is just like kali and his fake plates... BS
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I noticed Andreas Cahling doing the same on facebook. Pizza, Ice Cream, plenty of fruit .. looks like the tastiest diet ever. He is shredded 365 days a year and attributes this to his "turbo metabolism". He is a nice guy but full of it like all of them. He is probably on hgh and burners AND i SUSPECT DIURETICS AS WELL .. let alone the hormones. But I think they post the "cheat meals" leading everyone to believe they eat like that all day long.
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^^^^^^^ He also got on FB and announced how he has no problem spending Christmas all alone.
What's my point?
He only has time and money for himself and is probably just getting by. He counts his "likes" daily. Funny....if he truly doesn't mind being alone on a traditional family holiday.
The other thing. He is SO FUCKING ALONE that all of his pictures are always taken by himself holding his camera. Very "GB" in my estimation. Even a cheap-ass digital and a small tripod has a timer.
Oh well. Live alone, die alone.
For what? Your physique?
Legendary.
I know a lot of "ex" Pros who are basically all alone in this world. Sad state of affairs. Too bad you couldn't see this coming before you took your first injection of .... whatever.
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^^^^^^^ He also got on FB and announced how he has no problem spending Christmas all alone.
What's my point?
He only has time and money for himself and is probably just getting by. He counts his "likes" daily. Funny....if he truly doesn't mind being alone on a traditional family holiday.
The other thing. He is SO FUCKING ALONE that all of his pictures are always taken by himself holding his camera. Very "GB" in my estimation. Even a cheap-ass digital and a small tripod has a timer.
Oh well. Live alone, die alone.
For what? Your physique?
Legendary.
I know a lot of "ex" Pros who are basically all alone in this world. Sad state of affairs. Too bad you couldn't see this coming before you took your first injection of .... whatever.
That's very common among pro bodybuilders (specially when they go pass the clubbing age)
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Or maybe Dexter doesn't really eat all that shit and is just saying so to "impress" everyone.
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Andreas lives on HGH.
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Andreas lives on HGH.
. Yes
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Even the least aesthetically pleasing bodybuilder to ever step on the Olympia stage in the past 30 years is a genetic freak, if only for tolerating those AAS dosages.
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Even the least aesthetically pleasing bodybuilder to ever step on the Olympia stage in the past 30 years is a genetic freak, if only for tolerating those AAS dosages.
Here's something to consider
How do we know for sure they are genetic freaks? That term gets thrown around a lot
Bbing is a very small "sport" and the number of participants isn't enough to compare to something like baseball or football. Most people just don't get into it , they pick "real sports"
Another is the dosages, not many are willing to do the stacks pros are doing and even so the percentage of people doing that is very small. I'm sure u can grab a bunch of random dudes and pump them full of stuff and half would be better than a branch warren
My point being is bbing pool is very very small sample size compared to "real sports"
I believe that if it got the hype and money of say basketball u will def see tons of "genetic freaks"
Even Phil Heath has stated that people would pick a more lucrative sport as opposed to bbing
Just something to consider , I know one poster has said something like this a long the lines
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Here's something to consider
How do we know for sure they are genetic freaks? That term gets thrown around a lot
Bbing is a very small "sport" and the number of participants isn't enough to compare to something like baseball or football. Most people just don't get into it , they pick "real sports"
Another is the dosages, not many are willing to do the stacks pros are doing and even so the percentage of people doing that is very small. I'm sure u can grab a bunch of random dudes and pump them full of stuff and half would be better than a branch warren
My point being is bbing pool is very very small sample size compared to "real sports"
I believe that if it got the hype and money of say basketball u will def see tons of "genetic freaks"
Even Phil Heath has stated that people would pick a more lucrative sport as opposed to bbing
Just something to consider , I know one poster has said something like this a long the lines
Very true.
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Didn't Dexter Jackson compete in bodybuilding as a lightweight as an adult? The man is a tiny tit without hormones...