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Title: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 10:47:04 AM
This is absolutely embarrassing!!...how many people have to leave before you guys admit that Trump is totally incompetent???...Today it was Rex Tillerson....The government is in total chaos.....Sessions is going to be next....

whatever happened to "I will pick the best people"...............

You Trump dick suckers are looking really bad right now.... :D :D
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 13, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
You’ve never owned a business, have you?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: nasht5 on March 13, 2018, 01:40:26 PM
Totally ignore black unemployment is at an all time low. Female unemployment all time low. Stock market all time high. The "Junior varsity" of terrorists groups practically whipped out. North Korea talking about ending it's nuke program.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: mazrim on March 13, 2018, 01:47:49 PM
Apparently if you are bad at your job you are supposed to be kept on.

Lovin' Holder, Clinton, Rice, etc. All great choices by the previous administration.....They were very in-line with Obama's thought process so I guess they were great choices for him. Not so much for the country, though.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: obsidian on March 13, 2018, 03:45:19 PM
Lmao, what is this shit? Trump is doing great. Draining the swamp. Get used to it.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2018, 03:52:39 PM
This is absolutely embarrassing!!...how many people have to leave before you guys admit that Trump is totally incompetent???...Today it was Rex Tillerson....The government is in total chaos.....Sessions is going to be next....

whatever happened to "I will pick the best people"...............

You Trump dick suckers are looking really bad right now.... :D :D

You haven’t missed one single welfare check.  What do you care ?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 04:30:45 PM
You’ve never owned a business, have you?

no I haven't..I know you have...but the government cannot be run like a business...and now you see why
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 13, 2018, 04:37:17 PM
no I haven't..I know you have...but the government cannot be run like a business...and now you see why

Which is precisely why I get what he does. I’m not saying Tillerson was bad, I’m saying that in a business, if you’re not on the same page as the CEO, then a decision has to be made. This country is finally heading in the right direction BECAUSE it’s more or less ran like a business. You still don’t get that Trump is a politician by label only but he makes decisions based on business.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 04:38:00 PM
Totally ignore black unemployment is at an all time low. Female unemployment all time low. Stock market all time high. The "Junior varsity" of terrorists groups practically whipped out. North Korea talking about ending it's nuke program.

Black and female unemployment didn't get to an all time low due to Trump being president FOR ONE YEAR....it was also due to all the jobs created during the 8 YEARS Obama was in office...but you guys have always ignored that part....Stock market was at an all time high virtually through Obama's entire term....you guys ignored that as well.....economy is doing well under Trump but it was all built on what Obama did...and by the way, Kim is NEVER giving up his nukes..thats just a ploy....however Trump deserves credit because he put the squeeze on North Korea and now they want to talk....

But Trump has exposed you guys total hypocrisy

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2018, 04:38:04 PM
no I haven't..I know you have...but the government cannot be run like a business...and now you see why
Under obama the fag it was run like a crack Den.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 13, 2018, 04:38:30 PM
Cant wait for the deepstate sessions to be sacked....drain the swamp
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2018, 04:39:18 PM
Black and female unemployment didn't get to an all time low due to Trump being president FOR ONE YEAR....it was also due to all the jobs created during the 8 YEARS Obama was in office...but you guys have always ignored that part....Stock market was at an all time high virtually through Obama's entire term....you guys ignored that as well.....economy is doing well under Trump but it was all built on what Obama did...and by the way, Kim is NEVER giving up his nukes..thats just a ploy....however Trump deserves credit because he put the squeeze on North Korea and now they want to talk....

But Trump has exposed you guys total hypocrisy



You own little more than an obamaphone and 2008 campaign sign and t shirt.   STFU
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 13, 2018, 04:40:07 PM
Black and female unemployment didn't get to an all time low due to Trump being president FOR ONE YEAR....it was also due to all the jobs created during the 8 YEARS Obama was in office...but you guys have always ignored that part....Stock market was at an all time high virtually through Obama's entire term....you guys ignored that as well.....economy is doing well under Trump but it was all built on what Obama did...and by the way, Kim is NEVER giving up his nukes..thats just a ploy....however Trump deserves credit because he put the squeeze on North Korea and now they want to talk....

But Trump has exposed you guys total hypocrisy




Hussien built a fake economy thus a $17 trillion deficit.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 04:41:06 PM
This is absolutely embarrassing!!...how many people have to leave before you guys admit that Trump is totally incompetent???...Today it was Rex Tillerson....The government is in total chaos.....Sessions is going to be next....

whatever happened to "I will pick the best people"...............

You Trump dick suckers are looking really bad right now.... :D :D

I guess your a black man.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 04:41:49 PM
Which is precisely why I get what he does. I’m not saying Tillerson was bad, I’m saying that in a business, if you’re not on the same page as the CEO, then a decision has to be made. This country is finally heading in the right direction BECAUSE it’s more or less ran like a business. You still don’t get that Trump is a politician by label only but he makes decisions based on business.

According to your logic, then there are a whole lot of people who weren't on the same page as Trump....whatever happened to "I'm going to pick the best people"????????....also there has been UNPRECEDENTED LEVELS of people getting fired due to corruption and having a poor background.....

I guess that's alright with you as well?????...meanwhile you criticized Obama if he failed to cut his toenails
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 13, 2018, 04:42:11 PM
Which is precisely why I get what he does. I’m not saying Tillerson was bad, I’m saying that in a business, if you’re not on the same page as the CEO, then a decision has to be made. This country is finally heading in the right direction BECAUSE it’s more or less ran like a business. You still don’t get that Trump is a politician by label only but he makes decisions based on business.

a few things

1.  You're profoundly stupid
2.  The country is not a business
3.  Most of Trumps businesses have failed
4.  Trump is not running the country like a business, he's running it like a crime family or maybe a clown show about a crime
     family
5.  The way Trump treats his employees makes it that much more difficult for him to hire quality people
6.  You're profoundly stupid (always worth repeating)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 13, 2018, 04:43:37 PM
Cant wait for the deepstate sessions to be sacked....drain the swamp

drain the swamp?

that makes zero sense (par for the course for a Trumptard)

Trump is the person who put him and all these other people in the swamp
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 04:46:17 PM

Hussien built a fake economy thus a $17 trillion deficit.

All presidents have done this since Ronald Reagan.....both Republicans and Democrats..Trump did the same thing by giving a huge tax cut that we can't pay for.....Deficits are going to grow really HUGE over the next few years....Deficits under Bush and Reagan grew really big after they gave tax cuts as well....so singling out Obama is ridiculous
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 13, 2018, 04:47:34 PM

Hussien built a fake economy thus a $17 trillion deficit.

And Trump is going to have an even worse deficit but I'm sure by Trumptardian pretzel logic that deficits don't matter any more
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 04:48:15 PM
I guess your a black man.

and that means what exactly????????...ANYONE of ANY color can see the facts for themselves..its not something you can debate or deny
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 04:49:46 PM
You own little more than an obamaphone and 2008 campaign sign and t shirt.   STFU

You really love idiots don't you????..Palin...Herman Cain....Trump.....
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on March 13, 2018, 04:50:08 PM

Hussien built a fake economy thus a $17 trillion deficit.
When bush crashed the economy and tax revenue tanked did you expect the deficit to go down?

Let me know when trump balances the budget, yet lowers the deficit.  
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 04:50:43 PM
Apparently if you are bad at your job you are supposed to be kept on.

Lovin' Holder, Clinton, Rice, etc. All great choices by the previous administration.....They were very in-line with Obama's thought process so I guess they were great choices for him. Not so much for the country, though.

Trump seems to hire a lot of people who are "bad at their jobs"
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 04:52:05 PM
When bush crashed the economy and tax revenue tanked did you expect the deficit to go down?

Let me know when trump balances the budget, yet lowers the deficit. 

I guarantee you, the budget deficit will NEVER be talked about on here by these guys EVER again
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 04:57:56 PM
and that means what exactly????????...ANYONE of ANY color can see the facts for themselves..its not something you can debate or deny

I’ll spell it out for you Simpleton

I guessed you were a black man

That’s it -
Is that Plain enough for your sub par IQ
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 13, 2018, 04:59:41 PM
drain the swamp?

that makes zero sense (par for the course for a Trumptard)

Trump is the person who put him and all these other people in the swamp

Yes he put him there, his worst mistake made. Old sleepy Sessions is deep state otherwise Clintons would be facing charges. Surely you agree the Clintons broke numerous laws??
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 05:00:25 PM
I’ll spell it out for you Simpleton

I guessed you were a black man

That’s it -
Is that Plain enough for your sub par IQ

Wow..is that ALL you have???..your answer says a lot about YOUR IQ actually...thanks for outing yourself
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 13, 2018, 05:02:57 PM
Yes he put him there, his worst mistake made. Old sleepy Sessions is deep state otherwise Clintons would be facing charges. Surely you agree the Clintons broke numerous laws??

funny how you can't even stay on point for more than a sentence without mentioning Clinton

I'm not aware of any laws that Clinton broke and not even sure why you'd bring it up in a conversation about what a clusterfuck of an administration we have with Trump.

If you're aware that Clinton broke some laws then you should make a thread about it and maybe turn her in to the authorities

Maybe give Trey Gowdy a call or sleepy old Sessions and see what they think
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 13, 2018, 05:03:58 PM
Quote from: Fuzzy Nuts link=top ic=643603.msg9005859#msg9005859 date=1520985008
When bush crashed the economy and tax revenue tanked did you expect the deficit to go down?

Let me know when trump balances the budget, yet lowers the deficit.  

Starting 17$ trillion in the hole courtesy of the POS Muslim is no easy chore. What was Hussien's deficit when he started ?

On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, when he left, it was $19.947 trillion. That's  $9 trillion added to the debt, more than any other president.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 13, 2018, 05:08:54 PM
Shit does look like a train wreck but because things are going good it's not a huge deal to some. I'm not sure if it's his doing that's got the economy humming but I also know that the hard core anti Trump crew would never give him credit if it was his. It's the seesaw headed in the other direction. We're too polarized. I wish Romney would've run and won.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 05:09:57 PM
funny how you can't even stay on point for more than a sentence without mentioning Clinton

I'm not aware of any laws that Clinton broke and not even sure why you'd bring it up in a conversation about what a clusterfuck of an administration we have with Trump.

If you're aware that Clinton broke some laws then you should make a thread about it and maybe turn her in to the authorities

Maybe give Trey Gowdy a call or sleepy old Sessions and see what they think
i'm really beginning to believe this obsession with Clinton is a mental illness with these guys...everything in their minds comes back to the Clintons...if there was something there you would think they would have at least been indicted???..never mind locked up????
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 05:12:33 PM
Wow..is that ALL you have???..your answer says a lot about YOUR IQ actually...thanks for outing yourself

Ha ha ha

Best we don’t go down the Race / Intelligence/ IQ road
As I recall you’ve been made to shut up & ceased posting
On previous threads on them topics.

Stick to what blacks are very good at
Having gold teeth
Having ridiculous names
Running events
Having children & not being a father to them
Selling drugs
Mispronouncing words
Stealing
Creating no go zones / war like areas where large numbers of them live
Filling prisons up
Shooting each other
Etc etc

That should keep you busy

Good day to you.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 13, 2018, 05:14:09 PM
i'm really beginning to believe this obsession with Clinton is a mental illness with these guys...everything in their minds comes back to the Clintons...if there was something there you would think they would have at least been indicted???..never mind locked up????

it's partially that but I think also a defense mechanism and an excuse when they can't defend their own position and want to deflect or change the topic
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 05:15:22 PM
Ha ha ha

Best we don’t go down the Race / Intelligence/ IQ road
As I recall you’ve been made to shut up & ceased posting
On previous threads on them topics.

Stick to what blacks are very good at
Having gold teeth
Having ridiculous names
Running events
Having children & not being a father to them
Selling drugs
Mispronouncing words
Stealing
Creating no go zones / war like areas where large numbers of them live
Filling prisons up
Shooting each other
Etc etc

That should keep you busy

Good day to you.

HA!..typical Trump supporter...thanks again!
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 05:17:09 PM
it's partially that but I think also a defense mechanism and an excuse when they can't defend their own position and want to deflect or change the topic

Agreed..not to mention if Clinton actually did go to jail, GOP fundraising would plummet...an email with her name in it is always worth a few bucks
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 05:23:30 PM
HA!..typical Trump supporter...thanks again!

Thank you.

Typical low level IQ black man.

Stick to the things you lot are good at.

Leave the advanced business to the white men
As We're not talking building 1 storey mud huts & sticks through the nose
Elongated necks and baskets on our heads.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 13, 2018, 05:25:37 PM
Agreed..not to mention if Clinton actually did go to jail, GOP fundraising would plummet...an email with her name in it is always worth a few bucks

the irony of course being all the Trump associates who are headed to prison or cooperating with Mueller to avoid prison
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 05:27:38 PM
Thank you.

Typical low level IQ black man.

Stick to the things you lot are good at.

Leave the advanced business to the white men
As We're not talking building 1 storey mud huts & sticks through the nose
Elongated necks and baskets on our heads.


You been working in the coal mines too long, son

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2018, 05:29:40 PM
the irony of course being all the Trump associates who are headed to prison or cooperating with Mueller to avoid prison

Youre right...this has become like the Mafia....guys turning state's evidence for mercy
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 05:44:46 PM
You been working in the coal mines too long, son




You’re a black man
You know nothing about work.

Read the list of what blacks are good at again
And stick to that.

Leave us white men to run the world.

Good Night.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 13, 2018, 05:47:29 PM
a few things

1.  You're profoundly stupid
2.  The country is not a business
3.  Most of Trumps businesses have failed
4.  Trump is not running the country like a business, he's running it like a crime family or maybe a clown show about a crime
     family
5.  The way Trump treats his employees makes it that much more difficult for him to hire quality people
6.  You're profoundly stupid (always worth repeating)

Seriously, you just need to stay out of conversations or debates that are either politically or business driven. You’re a moron and seriously can’t remember the last time you were right about anything In the last 9 years. Politics, business, training, diet....well, you get it
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 13, 2018, 06:06:31 PM
Seriously, you just need to stay out of conversations or debates that are either politically or business driven. You’re a moron and seriously can’t remember the last time you were right about anything I’m the last 9 years. Politics, business, training, diet....well, you get it

Given that you're a tubby tire flipper lacking the common sense and intelligence of a dung beetle I think I'll continue posting.

I assume you'll continue to be one if the dumbest people on the face if the earth and will remind us all of that fact on a daily basis
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: AbrahamG on March 13, 2018, 06:25:47 PM
Don't forget that he is profoundly stupid. 
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 13, 2018, 06:50:10 PM
Shit does look like a train wreck but because things are going good it's not a huge deal to some. I'm not sure if it's his doing that's got the economy humming but I also know that the hard core anti Trump crew would never give him credit if it was his. It's the seesaw headed in the other direction. We're too polarized. I wish Romney would've run and won.

I try and have a genuine discussion and it reverts to name calling and racial insults. WTF? ???
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: LittleJ on March 13, 2018, 07:10:09 PM

You’re a black man
You no nothing about work.

Read the list of what blacks are good at again
And stick to that.

Leave us white men to run the world.

Good Night.

This has nothing to do with this thread. We get it already, you hate black people. Stick to the topic.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 08:25:55 PM
This has nothing to do with this thread. We get it already, you hate black people. Stick to the topic.

Wrong wrong wrong

I hate many many people
Top of the list those who follow the Muslim Peadophile Muhammad
And No I don’t Hate All Black People
A fair percentage that have no care or values
Yes - Black White Red Yellow all the races should Hate Them.

Also I can post what the Hell I like as you can.

It all started because I asked a simple question
& the black man got all smart & clever with his reply or so he thought.

Had he managed to remain civil & courteous in his reply
I wouldn’t of Berated & Pointed out some very obvious truths to him.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: AbrahamG on March 13, 2018, 08:51:32 PM
Wrong wrong wrong

I hate many many people
Top of the list those who follow the Muslim Peadophile Muhammad
And No I don’t Hate All Black People
A fair percentage that have no care or values
Yes - Black White Red Yellow all the races should Hate Them.

Also I can post what the Hell I like as you can.

It all started because I asked a simple question
& the black man got all smart & clever with his reply or so he thought.

Had he managed to remain civil & courteous in his reply
I wouldn’t of Berated & Pointed out some very obvious truths to him.

You are a shitstain on humanity.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 09:03:13 PM
You are a shitstain on humanity.

Thank you Glad you Dislike Me.

The Feeling is Mutual
I find you totally irrelevant
& Will likely continue to ignore or treat your posts
With the Contempt They Deserve.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 13, 2018, 09:04:31 PM
Don't forget that he is profoundly stupid. 

actually

I want to apologize

I've been extremely unfair to dung beetles by associating them with our phony coach



Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: AbrahamG on March 13, 2018, 09:05:10 PM
Thank you Glad you Dislike Me.

The Feeling is Mutual
I find you totally irrelevant
& Will likely continue to ignore or treat your posts
With the Contempt They Deserve.

Please pay attention to my trolling of your dumb ass.  Please.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 11:04:30 PM
Please pay attention to my trolling of your dumb ass.  Please.

What is trolling ?

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: loco on March 14, 2018, 04:09:11 AM
When bush crashed the economy and tax revenue tanked did you expect the deficit to go down?

Let me know when trump balances the budget, yet lowers the deficit.  

Bush didn't crash the economy.  Bill Clinton did.

25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis

Bill Clinton

President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation,

which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years.

Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation.

He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation.

In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2018, 04:13:00 AM
You been working in the coal mines too long, son



You have never worked a day in your life.   Layabout life is nothing to be proud of.     
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 14, 2018, 11:09:34 AM
No chaos in the White House  ::)

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on March 14, 2018, 06:23:35 PM
Bush didn't crash the economy.  Bill Clinton did.

25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis

Bill Clinton

President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation,

which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years.

Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation.

He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation.

In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html
Bush had 8 years to reverse these if they were bad. Take some responsibility.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2018, 06:43:31 PM
Bush had 8 years to reverse these if they were bad. Take some responsibility.


Andreisawelfarethug usually posts at night after working a hangover the night before - robbing a few bodegas - scamming some luckies at the track - and then manages to hop on a computer free of charge at the Group Hpme
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Straw Man on March 14, 2018, 06:49:02 PM
Bush had 8 years to reverse these if they were bad. Take some responsibility.

Republican were all on board for both Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (all three co-sponsors were Republican) and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act.   

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2018, 08:11:09 PM
Which is precisely why I get what he does. I’m not saying Tillerson was bad, I’m saying that in a business, if you’re not on the same page as the CEO, then a decision has to be made. This country is finally heading in the right direction BECAUSE it’s more or less ran like a business. You still don’t get that Trump is a politician by label only but he makes decisions based on business.

I've owned a business. I've also had 270 plus employees reporting to me. Trump is HORRIBLE at managing, if I ran my department like Trump is running his, I would have been canned   
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2018, 08:12:55 PM
a few things

1.  You're profoundly stupid
2.  The country is not a business
3.  Most of Trumps businesses have failed
4.  Trump is not running the country like a business, he's running it like a crime family or maybe a clown show about a crime
     family

5.  The way Trump treats his employees makes it that much more difficult for him to hire quality people
6.  You're profoundly stupid (always worth repeating)

bingo
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2018, 08:16:41 PM
I try and have a genuine discussion and it reverts to name calling and racial insults. WTF? ???
welcome to my world
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2018, 08:42:21 PM
I've owned a business. I've also had 270 plus employees reporting to me. Trump is HORRIBLE at managing, if I ran my department like Trump is running his, I would have been canned   

What??  LOL!  Bruh.  If you ran your business like Trump you'd be fabulously wealthy. 
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
What??  LOL!  Bruh.  If you ran your business like Trump you'd be fabulously wealthy.  

Not hardly . The reality is that you can't be a dictator, an uncouth, insulting leader that flip flops constantly and belittles your employees and be successful for long. Trump started out the gate with his Dads millions and contacts. His best leadership quality which probably served him well in private sector business was he would rather chase tail and golf than be involved in the running of his operations. Unfortunately he doesn't always have that luxury as President. Being successful as a leader involves many aspects.. but some of the top aspects are being trustworthy, being competent and knowledgeable about the subject matter, being consistent, being fair, treating your subordinates with respect and nurturing an environment where people can give their point of views and not fear reprisal. At least that's how the millions of successful business and military leaders do it. Trump is on a ship that's on fire.. and his blaming others and yelling about how the press is unfair won't but the flames out. IMO
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 14, 2018, 10:04:02 PM
I've owned a business. I've also had 270 plus employees reporting to me. Trump is HORRIBLE at managing, if I ran my department like Trump is running his, I would have been canned  

Horse fucking shit. Your “employees” reporting to you are backed by a union and you in almost any capacity have no authority to fire anyone. What happened to the business you owned? If you think Trump would have been “canned” what does that say about Obama?

On that note, if Trump was working in a company, I guaranfuckingtee he wouldn’t have been “canned” because to a company, bottom line rules. The US bottomline is growing by the month and by the QTR. Check yourself before you go spouting off about business.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: AbrahamG on March 15, 2018, 12:20:53 AM
Horse fucking shit. Your “employees” reporting to you are backed by a union and you in almost any capacity have no authority to fire anyone. What happened to the business you owned? If you think Trump would have been “canned” what does that say about Obama?

On that note, if Trump was working in a company, I guaranfuckingtee he wouldn’t have been “canned” because to a company, bottom line rules. The US bottomline is growing by the month and by the QTR. Check yourself before you go spouting off about business.

Easy tubby, you're really starting to come unhinged.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: loco on March 15, 2018, 03:54:45 AM
Bush had 8 years to reverse these if they were bad. Take some responsibility.

So Clinton signed bills into law which crashed the economy, but it's not his fault.  It's all Bush's fault for not cleaning up Clinton's mess and for not reversing all those laws which crashed the economy?

News flash:  The president can't reverse laws that were passed through congress.  Only congress can do that, and the president can only sign or veto the bills.

Take some responsibility.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: loco on March 15, 2018, 04:00:06 AM
Republican were all on board for both Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (all three co-sponsors were Republican) and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act.  

Really?  You are supporting Fuzzy Nuts' argument that Bush crashed the economy?

So Clinton signed bills into law which crashed the economy, but it's not his fault.  It's all Bush's fault because republicans, before Bush was even in office, were all on board?  I don't think so.

And what about this?  This contributed to the housing market crash, which contributed to the entire economy crash:

"In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods."

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2018, 04:27:58 AM
You have never worked a day in your life.   Layabout life is nothing to be proud of.     

have you paid the government back yet for those student loans for law school???...still a deadbeat huh?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2018, 04:29:52 AM
I've owned a business. I've also had 270 plus employees reporting to me. Trump is HORRIBLE at managing, if I ran my department like Trump is running his, I would have been canned   

much agreed ;) ;)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2018, 04:33:29 AM
Horse fucking shit. Your “employees” reporting to you are backed by a union and you in almost any capacity have no authority to fire anyone. What happened to the business you owned? If you think Trump would have been “canned” what does that say about Obama?

On that note, if Trump was working in a company, I guaranfuckingtee he wouldn’t have been “canned” because to a company, bottom line rules. The US bottomline is growing by the month and by the QTR. Check yourself before you go spouting off about business.

There is no way that you or anyone can say that Trump is a better manager than Obama...the levels of people leaving, getting fired and being indicted for corruption in this administration  is AMAZING!!!
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 15, 2018, 04:44:31 AM
There is no way that you or anyone can say that Trump is a better manager than Obama...the levels of people leaving, getting fired and being indicted for corruption in this administration  is AMAZING!!!

Obama didnt do that - someone else made that happen.   ;)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: mazrim on March 15, 2018, 07:25:20 AM
There is no way that you or anyone can say that Trump is a better manager than Obama...the levels of people leaving, getting fired and being indicted for corruption in this administration  is AMAZING!!!
Trump is a better manager then Obama. Not hard to say.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 15, 2018, 07:33:30 AM
There is no way that you or anyone can say that Trump is a better manager than Obama...the levels of people leaving, getting fired and being indicted for corruption in this administration  is AMAZING!!!

LOL are you kidding me?? the media hid Hussien's ineptness...
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Dos Equis on March 15, 2018, 08:14:36 AM
Not hardly . The reality is that you can't be a dictator, an uncouth, insulting leader that flip flops constantly and belittles your employees and be successful for long. Trump started out the gate with his Dads millions and contacts. His best leadership quality which probably served him well in private sector business was he would rather chase tail and golf than be involved in the running of his operations. Unfortunately he doesn't always have that luxury as President. Being successful as a leader involves many aspects.. but some of the top aspects are being trustworthy, being competent and knowledgeable about the subject matter, being consistent, being fair, treating your subordinates with respect and nurturing an environment where people can give their point of views and not fear reprisal. At least that's how the millions of successful business and military leaders do it. Trump is on a ship that's on fire.. and his blaming others and yelling about how the press is unfair won't but the flames out. IMO

I don't like the way he treats people, but you are just flat out wrong about his success.  He definitely had a big head start, but he took that head start and multiplied it by orders of magnitude.  He turned his daddy's money into one of the most successful brands in American history.  He turned that success into becoming the most powerful man on the planet. 

You and others can keep trying to speak his failure into existence, but it's not going to work.  What he has done and continues to do is incredible, particularly given "the resistance." 
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Dos Equis on March 15, 2018, 08:16:47 AM
There is no way that you or anyone can say that Trump is a better manager than Obama...the levels of people leaving, getting fired and being indicted for corruption in this administration  is AMAZING!!!

Uh, no.  Obama was a lazy, incompetent, dishonest leader.  And he had is own share of turnover:

As to Trump’s changing of White House personnel, President Barack Obama, over his two terms, had five chiefs of staff. One “interim” chief of staff lasted less time than did Reince Priebus. Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan, two-term presidents, had four each.

Obama had four secretaries of Defense, more than Clinton and Reagan. In the case of Obama’s first three, upon departure, they had significant policy differences with the boss.

Leon Panetta, Obama’s second secretary of Defense, complained about what he considered Obama’s poor leadership, one that “avoids the battle, complains and misses opportunities.” On Iraq, Panetta felt that Obama “kind of lost his way” when he pulled out all the troops over Panetta’s objection.

http://www.larryelder.com/column/trump-chaos-clinton-white-house/
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 15, 2018, 09:04:35 AM
Trump is a better manager then Obama. Not hard to say.

Obama could not even manage keeping his hog of a spouse from raiding the WH kitchen nightly. 
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Dos Equis on March 15, 2018, 09:11:32 AM
Trump is a better manager then Obama. Not hard to say.

Agree.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 15, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
Uh, no.  Obama was a lazy, incompetent, dishonest leader.  And he had is own share of turnover:

As to Trump’s changing of White House personnel, President Barack Obama, over his two terms, had five chiefs of staff. One “interim” chief of staff lasted less time than did Reince Priebus. Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan, two-term presidents, had four each.

Obama had four secretaries of Defense, more than Clinton and Reagan. In the case of Obama’s first three, upon departure, they had significant policy differences with the boss.

Leon Panetta, Obama’s second secretary of Defense, complained about what he considered Obama’s poor leadership, one that “avoids the battle, complains and misses opportunities.” On Iraq, Panetta felt that Obama “kind of lost his way” when he pulled out all the troops over Panetta’s objection.

http://www.larryelder.com/column/trump-chaos-clinton-white-house/

Obama was the figurehead of a radical progressive junta and he was there for the chooms, bath house hook ups w gay old white democrats, parties w Jay Z etc.   

He coudnt manage a 2 car funeral on his best day. 
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Dos Equis on March 15, 2018, 09:30:44 AM
Obama was the figurehead of a radical progressive junta and he was there for the chooms, bath house hook ups w gay old white democrats, parties w Jay Z etc.   

He coudnt manage a 2 car funeral on his best day. 

lol   ;D
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 15, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
Horse fucking shit. Your “employees” reporting to you are backed by a union and you in almost any capacity have no authority to fire anyone. What happened to the business you owned? If you think Trump would have been “canned” what does that say about Obama?

On that note, if Trump was working in a company, I guaranfuckingtee he wouldn’t have been “canned” because to a company, bottom line rules. The US bottomline is growing by the month and by the QTR. Check yourself before you go spouting off about business.

the employees are covered under civil service. I certainly don't have the capacity to personally fire them, however I do have the capacity to have them fired. In those times, I have sat across from them and looked them in the face during the termination hearing. In two of the cases I walked the officers out to their vehicle after their termination. In those cases it was the appropriate thing to do, it was not a pleasant thing but that's what leaders do.

The business I owned is still doing about 15K a month profit. How's yours doing?

When are you going to stop talking about Obama? This is supposed to be a new day, a new unpolitical administration where we are supposed to see how it is done right, not the way it has always been done. Trump has only shown he is over his head and doesn't have the basic management skills of a low level supervisor.  

I think I'm competent enough to talk about business when we are discussing management. The whitehouse isn't about making profit although I've done that in the business I owned. What we are talking about here is leadership and management skills and I think were we to compare histories, I can safely say I likely know more about it than you do so... take your own advice and check yourself before spouting off about business...  ;)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on March 15, 2018, 02:32:13 PM

Andreisawelfarethug usually posts at night after working a hangover the night before - robbing a few bodegas - scamming some luckies at the track - and then manages to hop on a computer free of charge at the Group Hpme
333, you have a lot in common with Trump, weak hands and big mouth.




Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on March 15, 2018, 02:37:39 PM
So Clinton signed bills into law which crashed the economy, but it's not his fault.  It's all Bush's fault for not cleaning up Clinton's mess and for not reversing all those laws which crashed the economy?

News flash:  The president can't reverse laws that were passed through congress.  Only congress can do that, and the president can only sign or veto the bills.

Take some responsibility.
Hey Captain Obvious, I'm not denying Clinton started this mess. But over 8 plus years nobody saw the big crash coming?  ::)

In current news, more banking deregulation happening this week.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2018, 03:37:29 PM
Trump is a better manager then Obama. Not hard to say.

Anyone can say ANYTHING..but its a statement devoid of ALL fact.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2018, 03:42:15 PM
Agree.

Your agreement with that is laughable
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2018, 03:45:35 PM
Obama could not even manage keeping his hog of a spouse from raiding the WH kitchen nightly. 

Michelle runs rings around Trump's wife in terms of morality and being a first lady......at least Michelle Obama  didn't lie about her education background and is not a pornographer
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 15, 2018, 03:49:25 PM
I've owned a business. I've also had 270 plus employees reporting to me. Trump is HORRIBLE at managing, if I ran my department like Trump is running his, I would have been canned   
What kind of business? How many people? How long?

Of those "270 employees" I would guess there was a minimum of 4 levels of management before the low guy even got to you, so you're kind of full of shit on that. I would guess that you probably only directly interacted/managed 10-15 people.

Are you saying that you would allow bad employees to stay on the job if you took over a management position even if you were the one to hire the employee? Well, I guess you would have had to considering the union protection racket.

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 15, 2018, 04:07:58 PM
What kind of business? How many people? How long?

Of those "270 employees" I would guess there was a minimum of 4 levels of management before the low guy even got to you, so you're kind of full of shit on that. I would guess that you probably only directly interacted/managed 10-15 people.

Are you saying that you would allow bad employees to stay on the job if you took over a management position even if you were the one to hire the employee? Well, I guess you would have had to considering the union protection racket.



A Sandwich/Burger joint and a Gas/convenience store. Several years, roughly 12 employees in the restaurant,  7 employees  for the store.

Not full of shit at all. I was responsible for managing all those under me. I had people working directly under me, so there were certainly levels, but any personnel issues of any serious nature, any decisions impacting the division came to me. I was responsible for managing those people.

As far as a direct correlation with Trumps management issues, like Trump, I was able to select those people who would head my sub divisions. I allowed them to select those who worked for them. The difference is, I picked good people and it wasn't all that hard. Another thing, if I had a problem with one of my direct reports, like a Jeff Sessions or a Tillerson I would call them in and discuss the issue privately with them. At no time, would it cross my mind, or any other manager worth their salt, to tweet, or group email disparaging remarks about my direct report. That's just childish and unprofessional.

When I took over a division, There may be one or 2 personnel changes, as their vision and my vision of where we are going may not be the same. Often times they could adjust, other times they had other positions within the department they wanted to experience. Sometimes it was just a personality clash but those were rare. But.. once those changes were made, my picks were in place, there was rarely turn over. Because I was 1. Sane  2. Not pathological  3. Cared about my employees, 4. Was professional and had attended a management course or two over the decades and had people skills

 
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2018, 05:21:08 PM
There is no way that you or anyone can say that Trump is a better manager than Obama...the levels of people leaving, getting fired and being indicted for corruption in this administration  is AMAZING!!!

You are wasting your time with Coach. Nothing is going to change his thinking. Look through his political posts and you'll see how dogmatic he is. The good news for him is he's got some company. These are the folks Trump was talking about when he made that statement about shooting someone in the middle of Times Square and getting away with it because nobody would care.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2018, 05:22:21 PM
Trump is a better manager then Obama. Not hard to say.

Oh yeah.  ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2018, 05:38:21 PM
I don't like the way he treats people, but you are just flat out wrong about his success.  He definitely had a big head start, but he took that head start and multiplied it by orders of magnitude.  He turned his daddy's money into one of the most successful brands in American history.  He turned that success into becoming the most powerful man on the planet.  

You and others can keep trying to speak his failure into existence, but it's not going to work.  What he has done and continues to do is incredible, particularly given "the resistance."  

Trump's six Chapter 11 bankruptcies, humongous debt and a lot of business failures suggest otherwise.


Trump's business failures
Trump Steaks
GoTrump (online travel site)
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
Trump Mortgage
Trump: The Game
Trump Magazine
Trump University
Trump Ice (bottled water)
The New Jersey Generals (pro football team)
Tour de Trump (bicycle race)
Trump Network (nutritional supplements)
Trumped! (syndicated radio spot)

Beyond finding that companies owned by Mr. Trump had debts of at least $650 million, The Times discovered that a substantial portion of his wealth is tied up in three passive partnerships that owe an additional $2 billion to a string of lenders, including those that hold the loan on the Avenue of the Americas building.Aug 20, 2016

Oct 17, 2017 - President Donald Trump's net worth has fallen by $600 million over the past year, according to the Forbes, and his ranking in the magazine's newest list of the 400 Richest Americans has dropped significantly as well. Specifically, Trump has dropped 92 spots in Forbes' 36th annual “400” list.

Last year the Trump Organization reported nearly $9.5 billion in revenues, but public filings by President Donald Trump suggest that the company actually earned between $600 and $700 million in 2016.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 15, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
You are wasting your time with Coach. Nothing is going to change his thinking. Look through his political posts and you'll see how dogmatic he is. The good news for him is he's got some company. These are the folks Trump was talking about when he made that statement about shooting someone in the middle of Times Square and getting away with it because nobody would care.


Let's look through YOUR OWN posts...
You're pretty critical of others for someone who defends adults who are sexually attracted to children.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=638091.msg8932410#msg8932410


At least Coach defends his stance.
Your only "defense" consists of either crying that you "don't have to explain yourself," or you simply report posts you can't counter.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Dos Equis on March 15, 2018, 05:52:25 PM
Trump's six Chapter 11 bankruptcies, humongous debt and a lot of business failures suggest otherwise.


Trump's business failures
Trump Steaks
GoTrump (online travel site)
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
Trump Mortgage
Trump: The Game
Trump Magazine
Trump University
Trump Ice (bottled water)
The New Jersey Generals (pro football team)
Tour de Trump (bicycle race)
Trump Network (nutritional supplements)
Trumped! (syndicated radio spot)

Beyond finding that companies owned by Mr. Trump had debts of at least $650 million, The Times discovered that a substantial portion of his wealth is tied up in three passive partnerships that owe an additional $2 billion to a string of lenders, including those that hold the loan on the Avenue of the Americas building.Aug 20, 2016

His $3 billion dollar net worth confirms his success.  He dropped from the 544th to the 766th wealthiest person on a planet of 7 billion people.  My math skills suck, but that makes him one of the wealthiest persons on planet earth.   
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/luisakroll/2018/03/06/forbes-billionaires-2018-meet-the-richest-people-on-the-planet/#66d83cfb6523   

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2018, 06:14:51 PM
You are wasting your time with Coach. Nothing is going to change his thinking. Look through his political posts and you'll see how dogmatic he is. The good news for him is he's got some company. These are the folks Trump was talking about when he made that statement about shooting someone in the middle of Times Square and getting away with it because nobody would care.

good point.  I know you're absolutely right...agreed..its just so odd to see people suspend belief the way that Trump supporters do.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2018, 06:21:01 PM
His $3 billion dollar net worth confirms his success.  He dropped from the 544th to the 766th wealthiest person on a planet of 7 billion people.  My math skills suck, but that makes him one of the wealthiest persons on planet earth.   
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/luisakroll/2018/03/06/forbes-billionaires-2018-meet-the-richest-people-on-the-planet/#66d83cfb6523   



Actually trump is thought to be the wealthiest U.S president of all time. I wonder what I'd be worth if my dad gave me $14 mil in seed money back in the 70's? that old saying that 'the rich get richer and the poor poorer" seems accurate.

Fred’s will “divided the bulk of the inheritance, at least $20 million, among his children and their descendants, ‘other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.,’ ” who died in 1981. At the time, there were four surviving children, Robert, Donald, Maryanne and Elizabeth.

In addition to this inheritance, Trump’s father helped the mogul financially throughout his lifetime by giving him loans and access to trust funds, and establishing a wealth of real estate and political connections for his son.

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Dos Equis on March 15, 2018, 08:15:05 PM
Actually trump is thought to be the wealthiest U.S president of all time. I wonder what I'd be worth if my dad gave me $14 mil in seed money back in the 70's? that old saying that 'the rich get richer and the poor poorer" seems accurate.

Fred’s will “divided the bulk of the inheritance, at least $20 million, among his children and their descendants, ‘other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.,’ ” who died in 1981. At the time, there were four surviving children, Robert, Donald, Maryanne and Elizabeth.

In addition to this inheritance, Trump’s father helped the mogul financially throughout his lifetime by giving him loans and access to trust funds, and establishing a wealth of real estate and political connections for his son.



Let me take a wild stab at this:  you would not have a net worth of over $3 billion, would not be married to a supermodel, and would not be POTUS.  But I'm just guessing.   :)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 15, 2018, 08:58:44 PM
You are wasting your time with Coach. Nothing is going to change his thinking. Look through his political posts and you'll see how dogmatic he is. The good news for him is he's got some company. These are the folks Trump was talking about when he made that statement about shooting someone in the middle of Times Square and getting away with it because nobody would care.

Yes, because it’s easy to see through the liberal ideology and how the elected political left plays on the uninformed constituents like yourself in believing whatever they tell you. Liberalism/Socialism has never worked and never will but for whatever reason, you don’t see it. I don’t get it. Unless you’re for socialism/communism and Marxism then just admit it. The liberal left is ANYTHING but capitalism. Agreed?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 15, 2018, 09:42:44 PM
Yes, because it’s easy to see through the liberal ideology and how the elected political left plays on the uninformed constituents like yourself in believing whatever they tell you. Liberalism/Socialism has never worked and never will but for whatever reason, you don’t see it. I don’t get it. Unless you’re for socialism/communism and Marxism then just admit it. The liberal left is ANYTHING but capitalism. Agreed?

When Hannity retires you are a shoe in
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 16, 2018, 12:02:55 AM
Let me take a wild stab at this:  you would not have a net worth of over $3 billion, would not be married to a supermodel, and would not be POTUS.  But I'm just guessing.   :)

Nope probably not
Though good chance he’d be caught visiting Glory Holes & homo Daisy Chains
Oh yes and let’s not Forget what he’d Likely be doing to help Underage sex
& Paedophiles.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 16, 2018, 01:35:51 AM
Yes, because it’s easy to see through the liberal ideology and how the elected political left plays on the uninformed constituents like yourself in believing whatever they tell you. Liberalism/Socialism has never worked and never will but for whatever reason, you don’t see it. I don’t get it. Unless you’re for socialism/communism and Marxism then just admit it. The liberal left is ANYTHING but capitalism. Agreed?

Apparently, I got this wrong. It is the opposite of what I posted. I should have know something wasn't right when this information surprised me. Sorry.
Interesting. I feel the same about many conservative ideologies. Since you don't actually know me, You cannot possibly know whether I am an uninformed constituent or a lobbyist and activist for a variety of associations.

We should meet up for dinner next time I'm in D.C. I know some great bars and eateries in the 'circle' such as Larry's lounge or the Teddy & The Bully Bar. I'd invite you to the Oregon State Capital in Salem where I could introduce you to some of the legislators the organization I chair has supported, both Democrats and Republicans, but you probably want to stick to you're own state capital's business in Sacramento.

Did you know there are way more registered Republicans than Democrats in California? Why is it that almost 62% of California's registered voters voted for HRC and only 32% of the voters supported Trump?

My current concerns are regarding Trump and not so much political parties or ideologies. To answer your question, capitalism is the social system of individual rights, property rights, and personal liberty and has nothing in common with conservatism or fascism and I am not an extremist either towards the left or the right.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 16, 2018, 06:11:50 AM
Quote from: mazrim on March 15, 2018, 09:25:20 AM
Trump is a better manager then Obama. Not hard to say.

Oh yeah.  ::)

Yup Hussien's $17 trillion national dept was genius  ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Dos Equis on March 16, 2018, 07:28:06 AM

Did you know there are way more registered Republicans than Democrats in California? Why is it that almost 62% of California's registered voters voted for HRC and only 32% of the voters supported Trump?


Because what you said is false.  California registered voters as of 2 January 2018:

Democrats:  8,471,371 - 44.6 percent
Republicans:  4,827,973 - 25.4 percent
No party preference:  4,734,847 - 25.0 percent
Other:  946,290 - 5.0 percent

http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/ror/154day-stwddirprim-2018/historical-reg-stats.pdf
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: loco on March 16, 2018, 09:24:57 AM
Hey Captain Obvious, I'm not denying Clinton started this mess. But over 8 plus years nobody saw the big crash coming?  ::)

In current news, more banking deregulation happening this week.

Captain Obvious?  Oh, so now you agree it's obvious that it was Clinton and not Bush who crashed the economy.  Good.

Yes, somebody did see the big crash coming, even before Bush took office.  Her name is Brooksley Born, and she was appointed to the CFTC on April 15, 1994 by Bill Clinton.  However, her warnings were ignored, she was rebuked and silenced, by Clinton, by people in his administration and by many others in power at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born#Born_and_the_OTC_derivatives_market

In current news, Obama was president for 8 years too, and at a time when Democrats dominated congress too.  What did they do to clean up Clinton's mess and reverse the damage that he and his administration did to cause the crash, and thus prevent another huge crash in the future?  Nothing.  Obama and the Democrats in Congress did nothing.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 16, 2018, 04:01:55 PM
Because what you said is false.  California registered voters as of 2 January 2018:

Democrats:  8,471,371 - 44.6 percent
Republicans:  4,827,973 - 25.4 percent
No party preference:  4,734,847 - 25.0 percent
Other:  946,290 - 5.0 percent

http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/ror/154day-stwddirprim-2018/historical-reg-stats.pdf

Interesting. This is one of those times when I wish I'd retained the source where I got my information. In trying to find it today, I am beginning to think I was suffering a dyslexia episode because every source I've looked at bears you out. Thank you for correcting me.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 16, 2018, 04:27:23 PM
Captain Obvious?  Oh, so now you agree it's obvious that it was Clinton and not Bush who crashed the economy.  Good.

Yes, somebody did see the big crash coming, even before Bush took office.  Her name is Brooksley Born, and she was appointed to the CFTC on April 15, 1994 by Bill Clinton.  However, her warnings were ignored, she was rebuked and silenced, by Clinton, by people in his administration and by many others in power at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born#Born_and_the_OTC_derivatives_market

In current news, Obama was president for 8 years too, and at a time when Democrats dominated congress too.  What did they do to clean up Clinton's mess and reverse the damage that he and his administration did to cause the crash, and thus prevent another huge crash in the future?  Nothing.  Obama and the Democrats in Congress did nothing.

Fact is, Bush DID crash the economy although he didn't mean to.....big tax cut for no reason raised the deficit big time.....big prescription drug bill was a good thing but raised deficit as well...Clinton enjoyed a great economy under his watch due to all the revenue generated from the internet boom
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 16, 2018, 04:29:21 PM
His $3 billion dollar net worth confirms his success.  He dropped from the 544th to the 766th wealthiest person on a planet of 7 billion people.  My math skills suck, but that makes him one of the wealthiest persons on planet earth.   
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/luisakroll/2018/03/06/forbes-billionaires-2018-meet-the-richest-people-on-the-planet/#66d83cfb6523   



Funny you don't mention the word "golf" anymore.....you sure did so a lot when Obama was president.....I wonder why???????????
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 16, 2018, 05:31:24 PM
Funny you don't mention the word "golf" anymore.....you sure did so a lot when Obama was president.....I wonder why???????????

Because Trump has worked more already than Hussien did in his 8 year vacation.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2018, 05:54:33 PM
Funny you don't mention the word "golf" anymore.....you sure did so a lot when Obama was president.....I wonder why???????????

Obama was and will always be a caddy - worthless  fool
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 16, 2018, 06:26:24 PM
Actually trump is thought to be the wealthiest U.S president of all time. I wonder what I'd be worth if my dad gave me $14 mil in seed money back in the 70's? that old saying that 'the rich get richer and the poor poorer" seems accurate.

Fred’s will “divided the bulk of the inheritance, at least $20 million, among his children and their descendants, ‘other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.,’ ” who died in 1981. At the time, there were four surviving children, Robert, Donald, Maryanne and Elizabeth.

In addition to this inheritance, Trump’s father helped the mogul financially throughout his lifetime by giving him loans and access to trust funds, and establishing a wealth of real estate and political connections for his son.


So I assume if you had millions of dollars you wouldn't give your kids a cent right?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 17, 2018, 04:17:41 AM
So I assume if you had millions of dollars you wouldn't give your kids a cent right?


Not only that, but he turned that $14 million into a $3 billion net worth.
Even with some failures along the way, that's a HUGE SUCCESS.


The same people criticizing Trump's bad business deals while ignoring the end product of success are the same ones quick to ("proudly") point to a 400-pt stock market drop while neglecting to mention that - despite dramatic ups and downs - the market is still FAR into record high territory compared to when he was sworn in.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 17, 2018, 07:19:36 AM
Because Trump has worked more already than Hussien did in his 8 year vacation.

AGAIN...the suspension of belief is absolutely AMAZING
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on March 17, 2018, 09:05:22 AM
Captain Obvious?  Oh, so now you agree it's obvious that it was Clinton and not Bush who crashed the economy.  Good.

Yes, somebody did see the big crash coming, even before Bush took office.  Her name is Brooksley Born, and she was appointed to the CFTC on April 15, 1994 by Bill Clinton.  However, her warnings were ignored, she was rebuked and silenced, by Clinton, by people in his administration and by many others in power at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born#Born_and_the_OTC_derivatives_market

In current news, Obama was president for 8 years too, and at a time when Democrats dominated congress too.  What did they do to clean up Clinton's mess and reverse the damage that he and his administration did to cause the crash, and thus prevent another huge crash in the future?  Nothing.  Obama and the Democrats in Congress did nothing.
What's it matter? In your alternate reality you'll blame Obama for the next crash.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 17, 2018, 09:56:36 AM

Not only that, but he turned that $14 million into a $3 billion net worth.
Even with some failures along the way, that's a HUGE SUCCESS.


The same people criticizing Trump's bad business deals while ignoring the end product of success are the same ones quick to ("proudly") point to a 400-pt stock market drop while neglecting to mention that - despite dramatic ups and downs - the market is still FAR into record high territory compared to when he was sworn in.
Seems most liberals are naturally negative in their views of the world.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 17, 2018, 10:02:19 AM
Seems most liberals are naturally negative in their views of the world.


A lot of them.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 17, 2018, 10:33:48 AM
Black and female unemployment didn't get to an all time low due to Trump being president FOR ONE YEAR....it was also due to all the jobs created during the 8 YEARS Obama was in office...but you guys have always ignored that part....Stock market was at an all time high virtually through Obama's entire term....you guys ignored that as well.....economy is doing well under Trump but it was all built on what Obama did...and by the way, Kim is NEVER giving up his nukes..thats just a ploy....however Trump deserves credit because he put the squeeze on North Korea and now they want to talk....

But Trump has exposed you guys total hypocrisy




Holy shit!
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2018, 10:51:35 AM

Holy shit!

Andre is counting ball washing and fluffier jobs obama stim bill paid for.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 17, 2018, 11:14:32 AM
Stock market was at an all time high virtually through Obama's entire term


Andre,
I like you, brother, but how are you arriving at this conclusion?

I'm failing to see the logic in your claim whether it's based on Obama's first, second, or both terms. Granted, things did pick up some after the crash of 2008, but that's only because they couldn't get much worse and the market was due for "some" type of recovery.

Considering the status of the current market, there's no comparison.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: dr.chimps on March 17, 2018, 02:09:39 PM
Meh. The best scams hit so hard that the mark cannot rationalize that he's been hit, so he continues with the ploy, mostly lying, thinking he will realize something down the road. Not new. Mark Twain, Henry Mencken, et. al  saw such rube voters years ago. Coach is nothing new.  ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 17, 2018, 04:22:44 PM
Fact is, Bush DID crash the economy although he didn't mean to.....big tax cut for no reason raised the deficit big time.....big prescription drug bill was a good thing but raised deficit as well...Clinton enjoyed a great economy under his watch due to all the revenue generated from the internet boom

Can you imagine Trump saying 'oops' if he made a mistake? Would you forgive/excuse him for it even if he wouldn't cop to it?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 17, 2018, 04:28:54 PM
So I assume if you had millions of dollars you wouldn't give your kids a cent right?

Your assumption is a giant leap and it is dead wrong. Nowhere in my post did I suggest Trump shouldn't have benefited from his father's wealth. I don't have and likely never will have millions of dollars. What I do have is a will that leaves everything to my two kids.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 17, 2018, 04:31:01 PM
Seems most liberals are naturally negative in their views of the world.

-Quite the opposite.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 17, 2018, 04:33:41 PM

Andre,
I like you, brother, but how are you arriving at this conclusion?

I'm failing to see the logic in your claim whether it's based on Obama's first, second, or both terms. Granted, things did pick up some after the crash of 2008, but that's only because they couldn't get much worse and the market was due for "some" type of recovery.

Considering the status of the current market, there's no comparison.

Why not post the numbers to prove what you believe?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 17, 2018, 04:35:28 PM
Meh. The best scams hit so hard that the mark cannot rationalize that he's been hit, so he continues with the ploy, mostly lying, thinking he will realize something down the road. Not new. Mark Twain, Henry Mencken, et. al  saw such rube voters years ago. Coach is nothing new.  ::)

Are you sure Coach actually votes?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 17, 2018, 04:41:37 PM
Why not post the numbers to prove what you believe?


I have - in response to one of your posts only attributing stock market dips to Trump while ignoring the rises. Not surprisingly, you never acknowledged the facts.



You know... you're pretty critical of others for someone who defends adults who are sexually attracted to children.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=638091.msg8932410#msg8932410


At least Coach defends his stance.
Your only "defense" consists of either crying that you "don't have to explain yourself," or you simply report posts you can't counter.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 17, 2018, 05:00:09 PM
-Quite the opposite.
So it's conservatives that are wearing pussy hats and violently shutting down free speech they don't agree with? Have you ever checked the political affiliation of the majority of mass shooters?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 17, 2018, 05:03:30 PM
Seems most liberals are naturally negative in their views of the world.

-Quite the opposite.


Why not post the numbers to prove what you believe?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 17, 2018, 05:43:59 PM
So it's conservatives that are wearing pussy hats and violently shutting down free speech they don't agree with? Have you ever checked the political affiliation of the majority of mass shooters?

The actions of extremist regardless of which extreme they are into, is not something I'd use as an example of most conservative or liberal thinking people. I believe most folks are a mix of the two. I have not looked into the political affiliation of mass shooters because they do not represent (fortunately) normal folks. -Not to suggest I didn't note that Nikolas Cruz had an interest in nazism and may have belonged to a white supremacist group. He was not known to be a registered democrat.

Mass shootings are often perpetrated by young men who are socially isolated or have a mental illness, experience a trauma or conflict that sends them reeling emotionally, and have easy access to guns." said Alan Lipman, professor at George Washington University Medical Center and founder of the Center for the Study of Violence.

"Their motives are almost always, without exception, nonpolitical. And they don’t describe themselves as having a particular political motivation," Lipman said.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: mazrim on March 17, 2018, 06:41:10 PM

I have - in response to one of your posts only attributing stock market dips to Trump while ignoring the rises. Not surprisingly, you never acknowledged the facts.



You know... you're pretty critical of others for someone who defends adults who are sexually attracted to children.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=638091.msg8932410#msg8932410


At least Coach defends his stance.
Your only "defense" consists of either crying that you "don't have to explain yourself," or you simply report posts you can't counter.
That's typical Prime behavior.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: dr.chimps on March 17, 2018, 08:14:50 PM
Meh. The best scams hit so hard that the mark cannot rationalize that he's been hit, so he continues with the ploy, mostly lying, thinking he will realize something down the road. Not new. Mark Twain, Henry Mencken, et. al  saw such rube voters years ago. Coach is nothing new.  Roll Eyes
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 17, 2018, 09:19:53 PM
The actions of extremist regardless of which extreme they are into, is not something I'd use as an example of most conservative or liberal thinking people. I believe most folks are a mix of the two. I have not looked into the political affiliation of mass shooters because they do not represent (fortunately) normal folks. -Not to suggest I didn't note that Nikolas Cruz had an interest in nazism and may have belonged to a white supremacist group. He was not known to be a registered democrat.

Mass shootings are often perpetrated by young men who are socially isolated or have a mental illness, experience a trauma or conflict that sends them reeling emotionally, and have easy access to guns." said Alan Lipman, professor at George Washington University Medical Center and founder of the Center for the Study of Violence.

"Their motives are almost always, without exception, nonpolitical. And they don’t describe themselves as having a particular political motivation," Lipman said.


reasonable thinking. Not really appreciated on Getbig  but very astute
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 18, 2018, 06:07:22 AM
That's typical Prime behavior.


Yes, completely expected.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 18, 2018, 06:47:03 AM
Meh. The best scams hit so hard that the mark cannot rationalize that he's been hit, so he continues with the ploy, mostly lying, thinking he will realize something down the road. Not new. Mark Twain, Henry Mencken, et. al  saw such rube voters years ago. Coach is nothing new.  Roll Eyes


Sayeth the obama and Clinton voter.   Seek help fat ass
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: loco on March 18, 2018, 07:30:37 AM
Fact is, Bush DID crash the economy although he didn't mean to.....big tax cut for no reason raised the deficit big time.....big prescription drug bill was a good thing but raised deficit as well...Clinton enjoyed a great economy under his watch due to all the revenue generated from the internet boom

Wait, you really think the crash of 2008 happened because of Bush's tax cuts and prescription drug bill?  Are you serious?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 18, 2018, 07:42:38 AM
Wait, you really think the crash of 2008 happened because of Bush's tax cuts and prescription drug bill?  Are you serious?

Andreisaretard is still angry his obamaphone was shut off
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 18, 2018, 08:01:02 AM
reasonable thinking. Not really appreciated on Getbig  but very astute
He says absolutely nothing of value or interest, yet he's very astute....lol, no wonder Killary has you guys brainwashed.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 18, 2018, 08:43:12 AM
He says absolutely nothing of value or interest, yet he's very astute....lol, no wonder Killary has you guys brainwashed.

It's ok you don't get it. I had trouble with college algebra. Nothing to be ashamed of
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: dr.chimps on March 18, 2018, 11:37:07 AM
Sayeth the obama and Clinton voter.   Seek help fat ass
Soul Crusher. The guy who changed his e-name because he said he got a bit of racist heat for a Mets idiocy, but really he tucked tail for his limited bis?  ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 18, 2018, 12:10:03 PM
It's ok you don't get it. I had trouble with college algebra. Nothing to be ashamed of
Yeah I don't get how democrats are able to function in a normal society. My bad. ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 12:34:55 PM

Andre,
I like you, brother, but how are you arriving at this conclusion?

I'm failing to see the logic in your claim whether it's based on Obama's first, second, or both terms. Granted, things did pick up some after the crash of 2008, but that's only because they couldn't get much worse and the market was due for "some" type of recovery.

Considering the status of the current market, there's no comparison.

I like you too Montague...which is why I wont destroy you too hard on this one....the fact is:

The stock market preformed better under Obama better than ANY PRESIDENT EXCEPT TWO OTHERS. One was Bill Clinton who benefitted from the internet boom...the other president, Calvin Coolidge benefitted because the nation was coming out of the great depression in the 1930's

The stock market went on an upward trend for 93 MONTHS straight during Obama's presidency compared to Trump's 11 months. Trump should get credit BUT its obvious that Obama deserves the bulk of the credit.

The S&P 500 hit all time highs 127 TIMES UNDER OBAMA

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/11/investing/trump-obama-bull-market-stocks/index.html

so there you go...just the facts

SORRY

.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: OzmO on March 18, 2018, 12:35:48 PM
The actions of extremist regardless of which extreme they are into, is not something I'd use as an example of most conservative or liberal thinking people. I believe most folks are a mix of the two. I have not looked into the political affiliation of mass shooters because they do not represent (fortunately) normal folks. -Not to suggest I didn't note that Nikolas Cruz had an interest in nazism and may have belonged to a white supremacist group. He was not known to be a registered democrat.

Mass shootings are often perpetrated by young men who are socially isolated or have a mental illness, experience a trauma or conflict that sends them reeling emotionally, and have easy access to guns."
said Alan Lipman, professor at George Washington University Medical Center and founder of the Center for the Study of Violence.

"Their motives are almost always, without exception, nonpolitical. And they don’t describe themselves as having a particular political motivation," Lipman said.


Not sure where i am seeing the these mass shooting have any direct connection with political affiliation.

Besides Its kind of hard gauge how "political" someone is as there are many levels just like religion.  

I think the assessment above is correct.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 12:37:09 PM
Andreisaretard is still angry his obamaphone was shut off

Still haven't answered me as to whether you paid off those government loans yet...you're the biggest moocher on here
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 12:42:07 PM
Because Trump has worked more already than Hussien did in his 8 year vacation.
If you look at the stats, you'll find that Trump has FAR surpassed Obama in terms of taking time of, playing golf, and spending time at his resorts :-\
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 12:46:09 PM
What's it matter? In your alternate reality you'll blame Obama for the next crash.

Fuzzy nuts you tried to be funny here, BUT YOU ACTUALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE...considering that a large number of Republican voters blamed Obama for the botched response to Hurricane Katrina according to surveys when OBAMA WAS NOT EVEN ELECTED YET!!!!!!...it happened under George Bush!!! :D

Which again shows how Republican ball lickers suspend belief
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 12:48:31 PM
Can you imagine Trump saying 'oops' if he made a mistake? Would you forgive/excuse him for it even if he wouldn't cop to it?

will never happen...you are definitely right....Trump has a problem with the truth as it is
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 01:00:32 PM

Holy shit!

Holy shit indeed!  time to destroy another Trump ball-licker...fact is:

Obama created job growth for 75 STRAIGHT MONTHS during his presidency...A MODERN DAY RECORD according to Time/money..

In Obama's last six years in office, 2 MILLION OR MORE JOBS WERE ADDED in EACH OF THOSE SIX YEARS...

Obama had a net gain of over 11 MILLION NEW JOBS during his presidency

http://time.com/money/4636761/jobs-barack-obama-presidency/

UNEMPLOYMENT WAS AT ABOUT 4.5% WHEN OBAMA LEFT OFFICE...BASICALLY FULL EMPLOYMENT BEFORE TRUMP EVEN TOOK OFFICE

admittedly trump has improved on those numbers...great for him...but discounting Obama's role in job creation is telling a falsehood


DESTROYED
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 18, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
Holy shit indeed!  time to destroy another Trump ball-licker...fact is:

Obama created job growth for 75 STRAIGHT MONTHS during his presidency...A MODERN DAY RECORD according to Time/money..

In Obama's last six years in office, 2 MILLION OR MORE JOBS WERE ADDED in EACH OF THOSE SIX YEARS...

Obama had a net gain of over 11 MILLION NEW JOBS during his presidency

http://time.com/money/4636761/jobs-barack-obama-presidency/


DESTROYED


But he spent $9 Trillion on it.............fake economy...

Hey I made a $100...................................but spent $100,000 to make it  ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 01:09:36 PM
But he spent $9 Trillion on it.............fake economy...

Hey I made a $100...................................but spent $100,000 to make it  ::)

There you go again.....Deficits have gone up with almost all presidents in the modern era.....and remember we were coming out of a major recession..the budget deficit actually went down in almost every year of the Obama presidency...

wait until the bill comes due with the Trump tax cuts.....deficit will balloon AGAIN
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 18, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
Yeah I don't get how democrats are able to function in a normal society. My bad. ::)

-Quite well.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 18, 2018, 02:56:50 PM
I like you too Montague...which is why I wont destroy you too hard on this one....the fact is:

The stock market preformed better under Obama better than ANY PRESIDENT EXCEPT TWO OTHERS. One was Bill Clinton who benefitted from the internet boom...the other president, Calvin Coolidge benefitted because the nation was coming out of the great depression in the 1930's

The stock market went on an upward trend for 93 MONTHS straight during Obama's presidency compared to Trump's 11 months. Trump should get credit BUT its obvious that Obama deserves the bulk of the credit.

The S&P 500 hit all time highs 127 TIMES UNDER OBAMA

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/11/investing/trump-obama-bull-market-stocks/index.html

so there you go...just the facts

SORRY

.


I’m still missing the part where I’m “destroyed.”

According to the article you cited:
Quote
All-time highs were even more frequent during the economic booms of the 1980s and 1990s. The S&P 500 hit record highs 268 times under President Clinton and 154 times under President Reagan, according to LPL. (Trump has easily surpassed the nine S&P 500 records under President George W. Bush.)


Stocks have risen in nine of the first ten months of the Trump Administration, a record that no other U.S. president can match.
SORRY.

Exactly how is it “obvious that 0bama deserves the bulk of the credit” for that?

Given that Trump doesn’t have to contend with a crash on the level of 2008-2009 (under 0bama’s watch), AND he is only a little over a year into his term, I’ll wait a little while to "pass judgement."
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 18, 2018, 03:01:02 PM
-Quite well.
You suck dick and support pedophilia, I would say that's "quite well", I'd say you have a sickness called "liberalism"
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 18, 2018, 03:16:29 PM
If you look at the stats, you'll find that Trump has FAR surpassed Obama in terms of taking time of, playing golf, and spending time at his resorts :-\


I thought it was a good thing when fagbama was goofing and golfing.  What a disastrous failure
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 03:16:56 PM

I’m still missing the part where I’m “destroyed.”

According to the article you cited:

Stocks have risen in nine of the first ten months of the Trump Administration, a record that no other U.S. president can match.
SORRY.

Exactly how is it “obvious that 0bama deserves the bulk of the credit” for that?

Given that Trump doesn’t have to contend with a crash on the level of 2008-2009 (under 0bama’s watch), AND he is only a little over a year into his term, I’ll wait a little while to "pass judgement."
i'm not passing judgment...just stating the facts...yes admittedly Trump is doing well in his first year...you are definitely right about that....but again....compare 11 months for Trump to 93 MONTHS for Obama..to say its all been Trump is RIDICULOUS
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
I thought it was a good thing when fagbama was goofing and golfing.  What a disastrous failure

Obama lent you a lot of money so you could supposedly go to law school....are you gonna pay it back?????
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 03:21:10 PM
I thought it was a good thing when fagbama was goofing and golfing.  What a disastrous failure

only in the head of the feeble-minded is this true
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 18, 2018, 03:24:17 PM
i'm not passing judgment...just stating the facts...yes admittedly Trump is doing well in his first year...you are definitely right about that....but again....compare 11 months for Trump to 93 MONTHS for Obama..to say its all been Trump is RIDICULOUS



Oh, absolutely...

I'm very cynical.
I would no sooner chalk up "victory" to one than the other.
I'll let this game play out before making a final call.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 18, 2018, 03:24:24 PM
Obama lent you a lot of money so you could supposedly go to law school....are you gonna pay it back?????

Still trying to get my head around the fact he went to law school. 
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 18, 2018, 03:25:56 PM
Still trying to get my head around the fact he went to law school. 
Too logical and reasonable for you to wrap your liberal head around?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 18, 2018, 03:28:00 PM
Too logical and reasonable for you to wrap your liberal head around?

damn that was an amazing comment... I'm bookmarking it for later use!  ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 18, 2018, 03:35:45 PM
Still trying to get my head around the fact he went to law school. 

He was obviously a D student
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 18, 2018, 05:35:19 PM
Obama lent you a lot of money so you could supposedly go to law school....are you gonna pay it back?????

I was a lawyer long before that ghetto twink drug addict down LO communist was elected king by a bunch of leeches
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: loco on March 19, 2018, 04:05:04 AM
Fact is, Bush DID crash the economy although he didn't mean to.....big tax cut for no reason raised the deficit big time.....big prescription drug bill was a good thing but raised deficit as well...Clinton enjoyed a great economy under his watch due to all the revenue generated from the internet boom

Wait, you really think the crash of 2008 happened because of Bush's tax cuts and prescription drug bill?  Are you serious?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 19, 2018, 07:14:51 AM
Wait, you really think the crash of 2008 happened because of Bush's tax cuts and prescription drug bill?  Are you serious?

no. not necessarily but it led to HUGE deficits
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 19, 2018, 08:48:19 AM
no. not necessarily but it led to HUGE deficits

Deficits had zero to due w the credit crisis you incompetent boob! 
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2018, 09:37:23 AM
Deficits had zero to due w the credit crisis you incompetent boob! 
And people like him and straw have the right to vote. :-\
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 19, 2018, 01:07:39 PM
And people like him and straw have the right to vote. :-\


Yes - very worrying.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: lilhawk1 on March 19, 2018, 04:23:10 PM
Which is precisely why I get what he does. I’m not saying Tillerson was bad, I’m saying that in a business, if you’re not on the same page as the CEO, then a decision has to be made. This country is finally heading in the right direction BECAUSE it’s more or less ran like a business. You still don’t get that Trump is a politician by label only but he makes decisions based on business.

He's a fucking terrible businessman.  How many times has he filed bankruptcy?  He doesn't pay people that do work for him.  He makes his decisions based on what is good for him, his shithead family members, and rich cronies that own businesses, that is it.  He doesn't do what is best for the American people.  The presidency is not intended to be run like a family business.  I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.  He thinks he is a dictator and anyone that has a different opinion than him needs to be fired.  Get a clue.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 19, 2018, 04:32:09 PM
He's a fucking terrible businessman.  How many times has he filed bankruptcy?  He doesn't pay people that do work for him.  He makes his decisions based on what is good for him, his shithead family members, and rich cronies that own businesses, that is it.  He doesn't do what is best for the American people.  The presidency is not intended to be run like a family business.  I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.  He thinks he is a dictator and anyone that has a different opinion than him needs to be fired.  Get a clue.

LOL....yawn...go watch CNN  ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 19, 2018, 04:59:43 PM

LOL....yawn...go watch CNN  ::)

Or just read his tweets
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 19, 2018, 05:27:34 PM

LOL....yawn...go watch CNN  ::)

Does this mean that MSNBC or other media has a different take? I've even seen FOX News occasionally talk trash (report the facts) about the president's actions....just not as persistently as other news media.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 19, 2018, 06:42:47 PM
He's a fucking terrible businessman.  How many times has he filed bankruptcy?  He doesn't pay people that do work for him.  He makes his decisions based on what is good for him, his shithead family members, and rich cronies that own businesses, that is it.  He doesn't do what is best for the American people.  The presidency is not intended to be run like a family business.  I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.  He thinks he is a dictator and anyone that has a different opinion than him needs to be fired.  Get a clue.

Lmao.

“Huffington Post has predicted Clinton to win by 98.4% over Donald Trump”
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: loco on March 20, 2018, 04:59:56 AM
no. not necessarily but it led to HUGE deficits

But you said it's a fact that Bush did crash the economy.  How exactly?

Fact is, Bush DID crash the economy although he didn't mean to.....big tax cut for no reason raised the deficit big time.....big prescription drug bill was a good thing but raised deficit as well...Clinton enjoyed a great economy under his watch due to all the revenue generated from the internet boom
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 20, 2018, 02:44:21 PM
But you said it's a fact that Bush did crash the economy.  How exactly?


But you said it's a fact that Bush did crash the economy.  How exactly?


Well if credit is given to Trump for the great economy then on the flip side you have to blame Bush for the recession and bad economy suffered under his watch ...correct????....two wars, Medicaid Part D, unnecessary tax cuts, the housing bubble and the great recession.....I liked Bush and voted for him...but by the logic of many people on here Bush gets the blame
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Yamcha on March 20, 2018, 05:18:47 PM
we are reaching levels of clusterf**k that shouldn't be possible!!!!
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 21, 2018, 08:53:44 AM
we are reaching levels of clusterf**k that shouldn't be possible!!!!

you're obfuscating...again...Tr ump was having sex with porn stars....but of course his wife was a pornographer as well, so....................
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
you're obfuscating...again...Tr ump was having sex with porn stars....but of course his wife was a pornographer as well, so....................
So what are you whining about? I don't think Trump has been caught banging interns with cigars and spooging on their dress....so if he was banging pornstars, he was doing it before he was president. Who cares?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Yamcha on March 21, 2018, 10:04:25 AM
you're obfuscating...again...Tr ump was having sex with porn stars....but of course his wife was a pornographer as well, so....................

You wouldn't have sex with beautiful women?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2018, 10:55:24 AM
you're obfuscating...again...Tr ump was having sex with porn stars....but of course his wife was a pornographer as well, so....................

As opposed to the previous president who engaged in hideous acts and beastiality with the First Hog?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 21, 2018, 11:50:07 AM
So what are you whining about? I don't think Trump has been caught banging interns with cigars and spooging on their dress....so if he was banging pornstars, he was doing it before he was president. Who cares?

Not whining at all...more power to him...but now we are exposed to the spectacle of the President being sued and his business being dragged out in the media..you ball-lickers forgive any type of behavior by Trump
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Yamcha on March 21, 2018, 11:53:39 AM
Not whining at all...more power to him...but now we are exposed to the spectacle of the President being sued and his business being dragged out in the media..you ball-lickers forgive any type of behavior by Trump
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 21, 2018, 01:03:03 PM


I don't think Trump has that look on his face...if he did he wouldn't be making threats to Stormy Daniels to try and shut her up....
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 21, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
So what are you whining about? I don't think Trump has been caught banging interns with cigars and spooging on their dress....so if he was banging pornstars, he was doing it before he was president. Who cares?


THIS!!!
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 21, 2018, 03:14:23 PM
you're obfuscating...again...Tr ump was having sex with porn stars....but of course his wife was a pornographer as well, so....................

To my understanding, Melania Trump did one nude shoot and a few implied nude shoots. Typical model type work. How did you arrive at the conclusion she was a pornographer (produced pornographic material)?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2018, 04:07:39 PM
Not whining at all...more power to him...but now we are exposed to the spectacle of the President being sued and his business being dragged out in the media..you ball-lickers forgive any type of behavior by Trump
Did you act this offended after Clintons lie of "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"?
What's to forgive? He banged porn stars and models? Lmao, you wish to be that lucky.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 22, 2018, 09:48:07 AM
Did you act this offended after Clintons lie of "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"?
What's to forgive? He banged porn stars and models? Lmao, you wish to be that lucky.
To my understanding, Melania Trump did one nude shoot and a few implied nude shoots. Typical model type work. How did you arrive at the conclusion she was a pornographer (produced pornographic material)?

I think you missed the sarcasm/joke..LOL
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 11:38:23 AM
I think you missed the sarcasm/joke..LOL

Probably. I rely on the Rolling Eyes Emoji.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: AbrahamG on March 22, 2018, 07:41:20 PM
Do we have any proof that there is not video of Melania pissing on the Donald for an undisclosed fee prior to the nuptials?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 22, 2018, 08:36:15 PM
Do we have any proof that there is not video of Melania pissing on the Donald for an undisclosed fee prior to the nuptials?
It's not been posted on any of the popular porn sites?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Yamcha on March 23, 2018, 05:25:00 AM
Do we have any proof that there is not video of Melania pissing on the Donald for an undisclosed fee prior to the nuptials?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2018, 03:24:06 PM
McMaster fired..............Dowd quits.....the clusterfuck continues......
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2018, 03:26:11 PM
McMaster fired..............Dowd quits.....the clusterfuck continues......

A week before maybe less, the Administration, specifically Trump and Sanders said McMaster was doing fine and there was no change coming. Same thing with Trumps legal team... Can you really believe anything they say?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2018, 05:52:25 PM
Is Mr Bolton good at making friends and influencing people when in camera?

Don't know but his cover of When a man Loves a Woman was pretty soulful.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 23, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
Not whining at all...more power to him...but now we are exposed to the spectacle of the President being sued and his business being dragged out in the media..you ball-lickers forgive any type of behavior by Trump


Hmmmm
And Bill actually Being the president when he was Exposed
& His business was dragged out was ok.

His & his party supporters weren’t ball lickers for forgiven him
or Killary for his behaviour.

That was totally acceptable behaviour then ?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 24, 2018, 05:19:18 AM
A week before maybe less, the Administration, specifically Trump and Sanders said McMaster was doing fine and there was no change coming. Same thing with Trumps legal team... Can you really believe anything they say?

Agreed..yet the right wing nuts on here were constantly calling Obama a liar...but after the many many lies Trump has been caught in...DEAD SILENCE by his ball-lickers :-\
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 24, 2018, 05:29:26 AM

Hmmmm
And Bill actually Being the president when he was Exposed
& His business was dragged out was ok.

His & his party supporters weren’t ball lickers for forgiven him
or Killary for his behaviour.

That was totally acceptable behaviour then ?

You make a good point here....what Bill did was idiotic as well...even though its very difficult to turn down a blowjob by a 20 year old when you've got a shrill like Hillary for a wife.. ;D

I don't fault Trump for lying about it....why should he have to talk about his love life?...BUT when you start getting into the area of payoffs, then there is a problem...and lets face it, we all know that his lawyer DID NOT reach into his OWN pocket to pay off that porn star..that money probably came from Trump in some way....thats a lie...

Bill fucked up but there was no payoffs and he WAS impeached although he beat it.

My REAL problem with Trump is that he paid her (I wouldn't have given her shit) and he banged a porn star WITHOUT A CONDOM :D

Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Yamcha on March 24, 2018, 07:41:13 AM
It is a shame we can't have a real leader in power like the rest of the western world...  ::)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 24, 2018, 01:59:30 PM
It is a shame we can't have a real leader in power like the rest of the western world...  ::)
Mexico would welcome these whiners. And I'm pretty sure that gay dude that runs Canada would let them come into his country too.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: illuminati on March 24, 2018, 02:26:50 PM
You make a good point here....what Bill did was idiotic as well...even though its very difficult to turn down a blowjob by a 20 year old when you've got a shrill like Hillary for a wife.. ;D

I don't fault Trump for lying about it....why should he have to talk about his love life?...BUT when you start getting into the area of payoffs, then there is a problem...and lets face it, we all know that his lawyer DID NOT reach into his OWN pocket to pay off that porn star..that money probably came from Trump in some way....thats a lie...

Bill fucked up but there was no payoffs and he WAS impeached although he beat it.

My REAL problem with Trump is that he paid her (I wouldn't have given her shit) and he banged a porn star WITHOUT A CONDOM :D




Yes pretty much agree with you

Only the Big Difference is Trumps affair was when he was a private individual
As for the payoff I’m not sure when that happened as in before or after he
Was elected.

As for Clinton’s He was the President & his affair was going on in the Oval Office

2 very different situations & settings

Of course with a Health Hazard Witch of a Wife Like Killary
I can understand his desire for some Female attention
Though not in Presdential offices / places.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2018, 02:48:09 PM

Hmmmm
And Bill actually Being the president when he was Exposed, (Trump actually is president just like Clinton was when the exposures happened. I think you mean the when the affairs happened) & His business was dragged out was ok.

His & his party supporters weren’t ball lickers for forgiven him
or Killary for his behaviour.

That was totally acceptable behaviour then ?

IMO yes, accept for Clinton lying about it. His personal life as was with Kennedy's and now Trump's doesn't concern me. IMO the salacious affair(s) he probably had are between Melania and Donald. Plus, in this case, including the respective attorneys involved and possibly the courts should the whole mess go that far.

Your spelling of the word 'behaviour' suggests you probably aren't a U.S. citizen. Are you?  If not, you are still allowed to have an opinion on this, even though you can't vote.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2018, 02:57:05 PM
You make a good point here....what Bill did was idiotic as well...even though its very difficult to turn down a blowjob by a 20 year old when you've got a shrill like Hillary for a wife.. ;D

I don't fault Trump for lying about it....why should he have to talk about his love life?...BUT when you start getting into the area of payoffs, then there is a problem...and lets face it, we all know that his lawyer DID NOT reach into his OWN pocket to pay off that porn star..that money probably came from Trump in some way....thats a lie...

Bill fucked up but there was no payoffs and he WAS impeached although he beat it.

My REAL problem with Trump is that he paid her (I wouldn't have given her shit) and he banged a porn star WITHOUT A CONDOM :D


Trump could have avoided lying about the affairs by simply saying, no comment. Of course there is always the highly unlikely possibility Trump did not have these affairs and his accusers are the liars. The pay-offs and nondisclosure agreements muddies the waters.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2018, 03:00:25 PM
Mexico would welcome these whiners. And I'm pretty sure that gay dude that runs Canada would let them come into his country too.

Do you have proof of Justin Trudeau's sexual orientation?
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2018, 03:04:14 PM

Yes pretty much agree with you

Only the Big Difference is Trumps affair was when he was a private individual
As for the payoff I’m not sure when that happened as in before or after he
Was elected.

As for Clinton’s He was the President & his affair was going on in the Oval Office

2 very different situations & settings

Of course with a Health Hazard Witch of a Wife Like Killary
I can understand his desire for some Female attention
Though not in Presdential offices / places.

According to statements made, the payoff's were just prior to the election, which is why there's an investigation into whether campaign dollars were used.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 24, 2018, 03:50:36 PM
Do you have proof of Justin Trudeau's sexual orientation?


Not as much proof as we have on YOU DEFENDING PEDOPHILES, YOU SICK FUCKER!!!


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=638091.msg8932410#msg8932410
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 24, 2018, 03:52:57 PM
Do you have proof of Justin Trudeau's sexual orientation?
Yes. He once made an advance towards me at Niagra Falls.
Prove me wrong.


Not as much proof as we have on YOU DEFENDING PEDOPHILES, YOU SICK FUCKER!!!


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=638091.msg8932410#msg8932410
Yes, always interesting to see where a mans priorities are.
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 24, 2018, 03:58:46 PM
Yes. He once made an advance towards me at Niagra Falls.
Prove me wrong.
Yes, always interesting to see where a mans priorities are.


Man...

Now we're BOTH gonna get reported to MOD's because "Primemuscle" cannot defend allegations AND PROOF of him being a sick old man!!
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
Yes. He once made an advance towards me at Niagra Falls.
Prove me wrong.
Yes, always interesting to see where a mans priorities are.

-Not going to bother. Obviously you and Trudeau have/had something special going on. Were you sending him gay signals?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: chaos on March 24, 2018, 04:06:06 PM

and you valiently resisted the temptation to  toss him off?
Maybe I tossed him off....maybe he tossed me off.... ;D
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: Montague on March 24, 2018, 04:09:27 PM
-Not going to bother. Obviously you and Trudeau have/had something special going on. Were you sending him gay signals?  ;D ;D ;D


Way to deflect and ignore as always, "Primemuscle."

Your actions are a testament to your "honor."
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: B_B_C on March 24, 2018, 04:23:39 PM
Maybe I tossed him off....maybe he tossed me off.... ;D
so this is how chaos arrives
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 25, 2018, 08:06:20 AM

Yes pretty much agree with you

Only the Big Difference is Trumps affair was when he was a private individual
As for the payoff I’m not sure when that happened as in before or after he
Was elected.

As for Clinton’s He was the President & his affair was going on in the Oval Office

2 very different situations & settings

Of course with a Health Hazard Witch of a Wife Like Killary
I can understand his desire for some Female attention
Though not in Presdential offices / places.

I'm with you on this ;)
Title: Re: When are you guys gonna admit the Trump administration is a CLUSTERF**K?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 25, 2018, 08:08:40 AM
Trump could have avoided lying about the affairs by simply saying, no comment. Of course there is always the highly unlikely possibility Trump did not have these affairs and his accusers are the liars. The pay-offs and nondisclosure agreements muddies the waters.

Point well taken..I don't like that these women are talking at all...even among a husband and mistress there should be some sort of honor