No, I'm saying that you said that McNabb was a GREAT player who made those around him better. If that is true, then he was not surrounded by offensive garbage because he made them better than average. Whats the difference between an ELITE qb with average recievers and an average QB with great recievers? Matt Leinert had the same team that Warner has and they stunk under him.
Trent Dilfer was not a great QB because he did not have the stats to go with the sb win. I said that the reason that McNabb is not a great player yet, it because he chokes in big situations and has yet to lead his team to sb. The great ones don't choke.
Did the above qb's play streaky and cost their team sb's at every chance they got?
The fact McNabb was able to succeed with below average WRs doesn't mean those WRs became good. It just means he is that good and made those average WRs play better. Maybe it's more accurate to say he succeeded in spite of them.
An average QB is always going to be average IMO. He could be more successful with "great" WRs, but at the end of the day he's still going to be average.
I've never been a Leinart fan. Warner had one of the best seasons in NFL history with the Rams, so he's already proved he can be "great." His problem is he can't play under pressure. Give him time and good WRs and he'll produce.
How do you characterize McNabb's WRs and TEs the past 8 years?
You said McNabb needs to win a Super Bowl before he can be considered great. I disagree. I guess that's just a matter of opinion.
Your comments about him choking in big games are not supported by his stats. All playoff games are "big games." I just looked at his playoff numbers. Here they are:
01:
Game 1: 24 for 33, 161 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 8 carries for 32 yards, 1 TD
Game 2: 20 for 41, 181 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
02:
Game 1: 16 for 25, 194 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Game 2: 26 for 40, 262 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 4 carries for 57 yards
Game 3: 18 for 30, 171 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 4 carries for 26 yards, 1 TD
03:
Game 1: 20 for 30, 247, 1 TD, 0 INTs, 4 carries for 24 yards
04:
Game 1: 21 for 39, 248 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 11 carries for 107 yards
05:
Game 1: 21 for 33, 286 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs
Game 2: 11 for 24, 136 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 4 carries for 26 yards
Game 3: 30 for 51, 357 yards, 3 TDs, 3 INTs
09:
Game 1: 23 for 34, 300 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Game 2: 22 for 40, 217, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 5 carries for 16 yards, 1 TD
Keep in mind that his WRs were Thrash, Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, etc. for most of those games.
Do you think Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Dan Marino, and Dan Fouts were "great" QBs?