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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #400 on: April 08, 2019, 11:41:25 PM »
Biden is the sentimental favorite for those who can remember what of Obama that Trump hasn't already erased.

Bernie is the seasoned veteran at telling people what they want to hear(the free shit army that is)...so they will overlook that he is 100 and white for now.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #401 on: April 09, 2019, 07:01:26 AM »
Biden tops 2020 Dems after week of accusations




Former Vice President Joe Biden tops a list of 2020 Democratic presidential contenders in a new survey after a week during which several women claimed that he touched them inappropriately in the past.

In the Morning Consult survey released late Monday, Biden held the support of 32 percent of voters who intend to participate in the Democratic primaries. The former vice president, who has not officially announced a bid but is widely expected to enter the race, holds a 9-point lead over his closest competitor, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) placed third in the survey with the support of 9 percent of voters, just above former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) at 8 percent.

Former Vice President Joe Biden tops a list of 2020 Democratic presidential contenders in a new survey after a week during which several women claimed that he touched them inappropriately in the past.

In the Morning Consult survey released late Monday, Biden held the support of 32 percent of voters who intend to participate in the Democratic primaries. The former vice president, who has not officially announced a bid but is widely expected to enter the race, holds a 9-point lead over his closest competitor, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) placed third in the survey with the support of 9 percent of voters, just above former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) at 8 percent.


One warning sign for Biden is his favorability rating, which has slipped since the accusations began. The percentage of voters who now say they have a "very favorable" view of the vice president stands at 35 percent, down from 41 percent last week. His overall favorability rating, however, dropped by just 1 percent.

Biden still has the highest favorability rating of any candidate, with Sanders in second place at 32 percent.

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) made gains in the new poll, with support increasing to 5 percent from 3 percent last week. He now leads Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) by 1 percentage point and trails Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) by 2 points.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437972-biden-tops-2020-dems-after-week-of-accusations

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #402 on: April 11, 2019, 12:18:40 PM »
They are trying to outdo each other with dumb ideas.

Robert ‘Beto’ O’Rourke to Farmers: Give ‘Fair Share’ of Crops for Climate Change
MICHELLE MOONS
8 Apr 2019, Washington, DC

Democrat 2020 presidential candidate Robert “Beto” O’Rourke proposed Friday in Iowa that the U.S. “allow” farmers to give up their “fair share” of crops to fight climate change.

O’Rourke stood aloft as he proclaimed his message at a rally in Marshalltown, Iowa Friday:

If we allow farmers to earn a profit in what they grow, if we allow them to contribute their fair share in combatting Climate Change by growing cover crops, allowing the technologies that invest in precision tilling and farming, capturing more of that carbon out of the air is another way in which they can make a profit. Keep those farms together, pass them on to the next generation, and allow them to provide us our food and national security, our independence from the rest of the world, our ability to provide for the rest of the world.

Iowa’s caucus system is the earliest to pick a contender for respective political parties in the presidential primary election system. The caucuses are scheduled for Republicans and Democrats on February 3, 2020.

The day O’Rourke announced his bid for president, mid-March in Keokuk, Iowa, he called the Green New Deal the “final chance” with just 12 years left to “take incredibly bold action on [the Climate Change] crisis,” according to RealClearPolitics. He told a crowd, “Not to be dramatic, but literally, the future of the world depends on us right now here where we are.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/08/robert-beto-orourke-to-farmers-give-fair-share-of-crops-for-climate-change/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #403 on: April 11, 2019, 03:43:48 PM »
Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg lead 2020 Democrats in new Iowa poll

Former Vice President Joe Biden, who is reportedly in the final stages of announcing a White House bid, leads all Democratic presidential candidates in support among likely caucus-goers in Iowa, according to a new poll. Biden is trailed by Sen. Bernie Sanders and South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

In the survey, conducted by Monmouth University, Biden leads a field of 24 announced and potential Democratic presidential candidates with 27 percent support among Iowa voters likely to attend the state's Democratic caucuses, which will take place in February 2020. The former Vice President and longtime Delaware senator leads Sanders, who is backed by 16 percent of the potential caucus-goers; Buttigieg, supported by 9 percent of likely voters; Sens. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, who both enjoy 7 percent support from surveyed voters; and former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, backed by 6 percent of likely voters.

Who's running for president? The 2020 Contenders
The rest of the presidential candidates and potential contenders — including Sens. Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand — all polled below 5 percent in support among likely Iowa voters. The surveyed voters picked Biden, Harris and Warren as their top three second choices.

The poll also asked likely voters about the top issues they want candidates to discuss on the campaign trail. According to the survey, more than half of them said health care should be the foremost priority, while 17 percent indicated environmental issues are important to them. The next four issues were immigration, education, job creation and thwarting President Trump's reelection bid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrat-president-candidates-2020-poll-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-pete-buttigieg-lead-2020-democrats-in-new-iowa-poll/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #404 on: April 11, 2019, 07:20:49 PM »
Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg lead 2020 Democrats in new Iowa poll

Former Vice President Joe Biden, who is reportedly in the final stages of announcing a White House bid, leads all Democratic presidential candidates in support among likely caucus-goers in Iowa, according to a new poll. Biden is trailed by Sen. Bernie Sanders and South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

In the survey, conducted by Monmouth University, Biden leads a field of 24 announced and potential Democratic presidential candidates with 27 percent support among Iowa voters likely to attend the state's Democratic caucuses, which will take place in February 2020. The former Vice President and longtime Delaware senator leads Sanders, who is backed by 16 percent of the potential caucus-goers; Buttigieg, supported by 9 percent of likely voters; Sens. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, who both enjoy 7 percent support from surveyed voters; and former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, backed by 6 percent of likely voters.

Who's running for president? The 2020 Contenders
The rest of the presidential candidates and potential contenders — including Sens. Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand — all polled below 5 percent in support among likely Iowa voters. The surveyed voters picked Biden, Harris and Warren as their top three second choices.

The poll also asked likely voters about the top issues they want candidates to discuss on the campaign trail. According to the survey, more than half of them said health care should be the foremost priority, while 17 percent indicated environmental issues are important to them. The next four issues were immigration, education, job creation and thwarting President Trump's reelection bid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrat-president-candidates-2020-poll-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-pete-buttigieg-lead-2020-democrats-in-new-iowa-poll/
That's really going to fuck up the democrats push for a minority/woman ticket.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #405 on: April 14, 2019, 02:55:54 PM »
That's really going to fuck up the democrats push for a minority/woman ticket.

I think they are really going to try to push this guy. Ultimately Trump would wreck him though.


‘Mayor Pete’ joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation



SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance Sunday by claiming the mantle of a youthful generation ready to reshape the country.

“I recognize the audacity of doing this as a Midwestern millennial mayor,” he said to cheers of “Pete, Pete, Pete” from an audience assembled in a former Studebaker auto plant. “More than a little bold, at age 37, to seek the highest office in the land.”


The South Bend mayor, a Rhodes scholar and Afghanistan War veteran who has been essentially campaigning since January, has joined a dozen-plus rivals vying to take on President Donald Trump.

“The forces of change in our country today are tectonic,” he said. “Forces that help to explain what made this current presidency even possible. That’s why, this time, it’s not just about winning an election — it’s about winning an era.”

Buttigieg will return this week to Iowa and New Hampshire, which hold the nation’s first nominating contests, to campaign as a full-fledged candidate now being taken more seriously.

Over the past few months, Buttigieg has appeared frequently on national TV news and talk shows and developed a strong social media following with his message that the country needs “a new generation of leadership.”

Buttigieg’s poll numbers have climbed. Some polls put him behind only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who sought the party’s nomination in 2016, and former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said he’s running.

Buttigieg’s campaign has raised more than $7 million in the first three months of this year, a total eclipsed by Sanders’ leading $18 million but more than Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #406 on: April 14, 2019, 05:51:20 PM »
I think they are really going to try to push this guy. Ultimately Trump would wreck him though.


‘Mayor Pete’ joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation



SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance Sunday by claiming the mantle of a youthful generation ready to reshape the country.

“I recognize the audacity of doing this as a Midwestern millennial mayor,” he said to cheers of “Pete, Pete, Pete” from an audience assembled in a former Studebaker auto plant. “More than a little bold, at age 37, to seek the highest office in the land.”


The South Bend mayor, a Rhodes scholar and Afghanistan War veteran who has been essentially campaigning since January, has joined a dozen-plus rivals vying to take on President Donald Trump.

“The forces of change in our country today are tectonic,” he said. “Forces that help to explain what made this current presidency even possible. That’s why, this time, it’s not just about winning an election — it’s about winning an era.”

Buttigieg will return this week to Iowa and New Hampshire, which hold the nation’s first nominating contests, to campaign as a full-fledged candidate now being taken more seriously.

Over the past few months, Buttigieg has appeared frequently on national TV news and talk shows and developed a strong social media following with his message that the country needs “a new generation of leadership.”

Buttigieg’s poll numbers have climbed. Some polls put him behind only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who sought the party’s nomination in 2016, and former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said he’s running.

Buttigieg’s campaign has raised more than $7 million in the first three months of this year, a total eclipsed by Sanders’ leading $18 million but more than Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2

He's not a bad guy actually, but the world is not going to take a gay president seriously......especiall y a married one with a "First Manly" staying in the WH master suite with him.

I've already seen clips on YT where they are going around asking about candidates, and just like with Obama people are saying "it's time for a female president" or "it's time for a gay president"  That's not how you decide things.  Obama should have taught people a lesson that you don't vote when "it's time", you vote when it's the right person at the right time.  He's not the right person due to his policies, and it's not the right time when it comes to Putin, China, Pocket Rocket Boy, and Iran/the middle east in general.  The respect for our nation abroad would plummet.  Sure France would jump with joy, but who the fuck cares...they're an ally, our bitch, and not a threat in any way if those things ever changed.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #407 on: April 15, 2019, 09:15:52 AM »
I think they are really going to try to push this guy. Ultimately Trump would wreck him though.


‘Mayor Pete’ joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation



SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance Sunday by claiming the mantle of a youthful generation ready to reshape the country.

“I recognize the audacity of doing this as a Midwestern millennial mayor,” he said to cheers of “Pete, Pete, Pete” from an audience assembled in a former Studebaker auto plant. “More than a little bold, at age 37, to seek the highest office in the land.”


The South Bend mayor, a Rhodes scholar and Afghanistan War veteran who has been essentially campaigning since January, has joined a dozen-plus rivals vying to take on President Donald Trump.

“The forces of change in our country today are tectonic,” he said. “Forces that help to explain what made this current presidency even possible. That’s why, this time, it’s not just about winning an election — it’s about winning an era.”

Buttigieg will return this week to Iowa and New Hampshire, which hold the nation’s first nominating contests, to campaign as a full-fledged candidate now being taken more seriously.

Over the past few months, Buttigieg has appeared frequently on national TV news and talk shows and developed a strong social media following with his message that the country needs “a new generation of leadership.”

Buttigieg’s poll numbers have climbed. Some polls put him behind only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who sought the party’s nomination in 2016, and former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said he’s running.

Buttigieg’s campaign has raised more than $7 million in the first three months of this year, a total eclipsed by Sanders’ leading $18 million but more than Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2

I can see it Now Pete ButtPlug plastered everywhere 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #408 on: April 15, 2019, 09:01:00 PM »
I think they are really going to try to push this guy. Ultimately Trump would wreck him though.


‘Mayor Pete’ joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation



SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance Sunday by claiming the mantle of a youthful generation ready to reshape the country.

“I recognize the audacity of doing this as a Midwestern millennial mayor,” he said to cheers of “Pete, Pete, Pete” from an audience assembled in a former Studebaker auto plant. “More than a little bold, at age 37, to seek the highest office in the land.”


The South Bend mayor, a Rhodes scholar and Afghanistan War veteran who has been essentially campaigning since January, has joined a dozen-plus rivals vying to take on President Donald Trump.

“The forces of change in our country today are tectonic,” he said. “Forces that help to explain what made this current presidency even possible. That’s why, this time, it’s not just about winning an election — it’s about winning an era.”

Buttigieg will return this week to Iowa and New Hampshire, which hold the nation’s first nominating contests, to campaign as a full-fledged candidate now being taken more seriously.

Over the past few months, Buttigieg has appeared frequently on national TV news and talk shows and developed a strong social media following with his message that the country needs “a new generation of leadership.”

Buttigieg’s poll numbers have climbed. Some polls put him behind only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who sought the party’s nomination in 2016, and former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said he’s running.

Buttigieg’s campaign has raised more than $7 million in the first three months of this year, a total eclipsed by Sanders’ leading $18 million but more than Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2

They who? The party's choice for a democratic candidate will be whoever has the best chance of winning the election.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #409 on: April 16, 2019, 12:03:37 AM »
They who? The party's choice for a democratic candidate will be whoever has the best chance of winning the election.

lol

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #410 on: April 16, 2019, 02:53:05 PM »
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn’t excited by a Biden run



Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who worked as an organizer for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign, said she’s not hot on former Vice President Joe Biden running for the White House but acknowledged she would back whoever the Democrats nominate.

“That does not particularly animate me right now,” the New York Democrat told Yahoo News’ “Skullduggery” podcast on Sunday, referring to a Biden bid.

“I can understand why people would be excited by that, this idea that we can go back to the good old days with [former President] Obama, with Obama’s vice president,” she said.

“There’s an emotional element to that, but I don’t want to go back. I want to go forward.”

Told that Biden, who has not formally announced a White House effort, is topping Democrat polls, she said, “I will support whoever the Democratic nominee is.”


The self-described Democratic socialist said she hasn’t picked a candidate to back in the 2020 election, although she mentioned fellow progressive Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

“I’m very supportive of Bernie’s run. … I haven’t endorsed anybody, but I’m very supportive of Bernie,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “I also think what Elizabeth Warren has been bringing to the table is … truly remarkable, truly remarkable and transformational.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/04/15/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-isnt-excited-by-a-biden-run/amp/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #411 on: April 16, 2019, 03:02:15 PM »
I’m excited by her tits in that pic

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #412 on: April 17, 2019, 04:47:01 PM »
Bernie Sanders And Beto O’Rourke Give Almost Nothing To Charity
Bernie Sanders (who is now a millionaire) and his wife gave 3.4 percent of their income to charity. Beto O'Rourke and his wife gave less than 1 percent.
Liz Wolfe By Liz Wolfe
APRIL 16, 2019

Last night, The Washington Post reported that Beto O’Rourke released his tax returns for the past ten years. Of course, the feel-good, inevitably government-expanding presidential contender should probably have been more hesitant to release his returns because it doesn’t take much sleuthing to figure out from them that the O’Rourkes made $370,412 in 2017 while giving a measly $1,166 of that income to charity. As The Post noted, this makes Beto’s charitable giving less than one-third of 1 percent of his household income.

Other candidates who claim conservatives are the true greedy ones and deserve to be smited for their fiscal sins don’t stack up much better. Bernie Sanders and his wife gave roughly 3 percent of their astonishingly large $566,000 income to charity in 2017. Interestingly, Sanders recently talked about his impressive sum of book earnings, and Reason’s Peter Suderman pointed out that the socialist is indeed a millionaire:

I think it’s genuinely great that Bernie Sanders is a millionaire, and that in becoming a millionaire, our nation’s most well-known democratic socialist politician has, however inadvertently, started defending one of the core tenets of capitalism—that if you come up with an idea for a product, make that product a reality in the world, and sell it to lots of willing buyers, it’s perfectly just and reasonable for you to earn a lot of money as a result.

He’s exactly right. None of these impressively wealthy Democratic presidential contenders should be scorned for making heaps, providing it’s from creating value that people want to benefit from.

Kamala Harris (and her husband) made nearly $2 million in 2018, giving 1.4 percent to charity (which totals out to about $27,000); Elizabeth Warren (and her husband) made just shy of $1 million (donating an improved 5.5 percent to charity in 2018). They should, however, be thoroughly criticized for demonizing millionaires and billionaires, branding them the no good, very bad, super icky ultra-wealthy, when they are some of the wealthiest people in America.

Of course, many super-wealthy people don’t think of themselves that way. A YouGov poll from earlier this year found that almost 90 percent of respondents who make $90,000 or more annually consider themselves neither rich nor poor. There’s nothing wrong with abundance, but it is odd that people would be not more self-aware about where they stand compared to the groups many routinely demonize.

Charitable giving should transcend political affiliation. It would be bad for our broader societal health if generosity were grossly weaponized to score political points, because then giving becomes more of a manipulative political ploy than it already is (to recipients, the intention behind giving probably doesn’t make a difference).

There’s something to be said for giving credit where due and recognizing when our political opponents do genuine good. Still, Arthur Brooks wrote on broader charitable giving habits in his 2015 book “The Conservative Heart,” noting:

Households headed by a ‘conservative’ give, on average, 30 percent more dollars to charity than households headed by a ‘liberal.’ This discrepancy is not an artifact of income differences. On the contrary, the average liberal family earns an average of 6 percent more per year than the average conservative family, yet still gives less away.

Later on, he notes that there’s a collective action problem as well:

Consider that the total that Americans give annually to human service organizations to assist the vulnerable comes to about $40 billion. Now suppose that we could spread that sum across the 46.5 million Americans receiving food assistance, with zero overhead and complete effectiveness. It would come to just $860 per person per year.

As much as it fits a convenient narrative, it’s awfully weaselly for liberals with political aspirations to claim conservatives are the stingy ones when those same liberals give miserly amounts of money to the people they purportedly care about.

The Betos and Bernies of the world would probably counter that by saying: 1) poverty is a collective action problem that can only be solved by taxing everybody (one person can only make a tiny dent, so why bother?), 2) the ultra-ultra-rich deserve to be taxed (like, the Koch brothers. Not normal millionaires! Extra big millionaires! Billionaires! Those ones! Trump!), or 3) really this wealth should be harnessed via taxes that way nobody can be exempt. The fact that some can accumulate so much means our system must be fixed (by them—supposedly disinterested third parties).

These points are varying degrees of wrong. 1) Lack of adequate provisions for the poor is absolutely a collective action problem. But it is also one that would probably be helped, on some level, with an extra $300,000 from the Sanders family if they would spare it.

2) If the ultra-rich were the only ones taxed, even if taxed at an insanely high rate, the additional revenue generated would not be enough to cover the hefty price tag of the various social programs that progressives want to institute. There simply aren’t anywhere close to enough Koch-level people in this country. We would also probably have a hard time safeguarding against capital flight, as any sane wealthy person would be wise to get his or her money out of the country as quick as possible.

3) The idea that progressive politicians, people who are emblematic of this very problem, would be God’s gift to man, able to fix poverty and wealth inequality despite being wealth-hoarders themselves is completely goofy. People like Sanders and O’Rourke would have more credibility if they didn’t engage in such hypocritical practices, condemning the big, bad rich people whose greed they want to harness for their own allegedly benevolent bidding.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/16/bernie-sanders-beto-orourke-give-almost-nothing-charity/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #413 on: April 17, 2019, 09:46:55 PM »
No kidding.  They are cheap liberals


Bernie Sanders And Beto O’Rourke Give Almost Nothing To Charity
Bernie Sanders (who is now a millionaire) and his wife gave 3.4 percent of their income to charity. Beto O'Rourke and his wife gave less than 1 percent.
Liz Wolfe By Liz Wolfe
APRIL 16, 2019

Last night, The Washington Post reported that Beto O’Rourke released his tax returns for the past ten years. Of course, the feel-good, inevitably government-expanding presidential contender should probably have been more hesitant to release his returns because it doesn’t take much sleuthing to figure out from them that the O’Rourkes made $370,412 in 2017 while giving a measly $1,166 of that income to charity. As The Post noted, this makes Beto’s charitable giving less than one-third of 1 percent of his household income.

Other candidates who claim conservatives are the true greedy ones and deserve to be smited for their fiscal sins don’t stack up much better. Bernie Sanders and his wife gave roughly 3 percent of their astonishingly large $566,000 income to charity in 2017. Interestingly, Sanders recently talked about his impressive sum of book earnings, and Reason’s Peter Suderman pointed out that the socialist is indeed a millionaire:

I think it’s genuinely great that Bernie Sanders is a millionaire, and that in becoming a millionaire, our nation’s most well-known democratic socialist politician has, however inadvertently, started defending one of the core tenets of capitalism—that if you come up with an idea for a product, make that product a reality in the world, and sell it to lots of willing buyers, it’s perfectly just and reasonable for you to earn a lot of money as a result.

He’s exactly right. None of these impressively wealthy Democratic presidential contenders should be scorned for making heaps, providing it’s from creating value that people want to benefit from.

Kamala Harris (and her husband) made nearly $2 million in 2018, giving 1.4 percent to charity (which totals out to about $27,000); Elizabeth Warren (and her husband) made just shy of $1 million (donating an improved 5.5 percent to charity in 2018). They should, however, be thoroughly criticized for demonizing millionaires and billionaires, branding them the no good, very bad, super icky ultra-wealthy, when they are some of the wealthiest people in America.

Of course, many super-wealthy people don’t think of themselves that way. A YouGov poll from earlier this year found that almost 90 percent of respondents who make $90,000 or more annually consider themselves neither rich nor poor. There’s nothing wrong with abundance, but it is odd that people would be not more self-aware about where they stand compared to the groups many routinely demonize.

Charitable giving should transcend political affiliation. It would be bad for our broader societal health if generosity were grossly weaponized to score political points, because then giving becomes more of a manipulative political ploy than it already is (to recipients, the intention behind giving probably doesn’t make a difference).

There’s something to be said for giving credit where due and recognizing when our political opponents do genuine good. Still, Arthur Brooks wrote on broader charitable giving habits in his 2015 book “The Conservative Heart,” noting:

Households headed by a ‘conservative’ give, on average, 30 percent more dollars to charity than households headed by a ‘liberal.’ This discrepancy is not an artifact of income differences. On the contrary, the average liberal family earns an average of 6 percent more per year than the average conservative family, yet still gives less away.

Later on, he notes that there’s a collective action problem as well:

Consider that the total that Americans give annually to human service organizations to assist the vulnerable comes to about $40 billion. Now suppose that we could spread that sum across the 46.5 million Americans receiving food assistance, with zero overhead and complete effectiveness. It would come to just $860 per person per year.

As much as it fits a convenient narrative, it’s awfully weaselly for liberals with political aspirations to claim conservatives are the stingy ones when those same liberals give miserly amounts of money to the people they purportedly care about.

The Betos and Bernies of the world would probably counter that by saying: 1) poverty is a collective action problem that can only be solved by taxing everybody (one person can only make a tiny dent, so why bother?), 2) the ultra-ultra-rich deserve to be taxed (like, the Koch brothers. Not normal millionaires! Extra big millionaires! Billionaires! Those ones! Trump!), or 3) really this wealth should be harnessed via taxes that way nobody can be exempt. The fact that some can accumulate so much means our system must be fixed (by them—supposedly disinterested third parties).

These points are varying degrees of wrong. 1) Lack of adequate provisions for the poor is absolutely a collective action problem. But it is also one that would probably be helped, on some level, with an extra $300,000 from the Sanders family if they would spare it.

2) If the ultra-rich were the only ones taxed, even if taxed at an insanely high rate, the additional revenue generated would not be enough to cover the hefty price tag of the various social programs that progressives want to institute. There simply aren’t anywhere close to enough Koch-level people in this country. We would also probably have a hard time safeguarding against capital flight, as any sane wealthy person would be wise to get his or her money out of the country as quick as possible.

3) The idea that progressive politicians, people who are emblematic of this very problem, would be God’s gift to man, able to fix poverty and wealth inequality despite being wealth-hoarders themselves is completely goofy. People like Sanders and O’Rourke would have more credibility if they didn’t engage in such hypocritical practices, condemning the big, bad rich people whose greed they want to harness for their own allegedly benevolent bidding.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/16/bernie-sanders-beto-orourke-give-almost-nothing-charity/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #414 on: April 17, 2019, 11:48:58 PM »

Bernie Sanders And Beto O’Rourke Give Almost Nothing To Charity

The good news is that it is fairly unlikely they are artificially inflating their charitable deduction amount. Of course, we have no idea what Trump gave to charity, because he refuses to release his tax returns. It's probably a good idea to have all the details before making these types of comparisons.  ;)

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #415 on: April 18, 2019, 12:59:58 AM »
The good news is that it is fairly unlikely they are artificially inflating their charitable deduction amount. Of course, we have no idea what Trump gave to charity, because he refuses to release his tax returns. It's probably a good idea to have all the details before making these types of comparisons;)

Not on getbig and not with this crowd. 

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« Reply #416 on: April 18, 2019, 06:06:41 PM »
Personally, I don't care what any of them have done with their personal finances. HOW they got their millions would be more of a concern for me.
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #417 on: April 18, 2019, 06:19:09 PM »
The good news is that it is fairly unlikely they are artificially inflating their charitable deduction amount. Of course, we have no idea what Trump gave to charity, because he refuses to release his tax returns. It's probably a good idea to have all the details before making these types of comparisons.  ;)
What does this have to do with Trump? The comparison is being made to their own words/standards/desires of other people and those of a more conservative viewpoint.

Probably should read the article before making these types of comparisons since you are the only one who is attempting to make that comparison.

You appear to be missing quite a few details on the majority of your posts....

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #418 on: April 19, 2019, 12:31:30 AM »
The good news is that it is fairly unlikely they are artificially inflating their charitable deduction amount. Of course, we have no idea what Trump gave to charity, because he refuses to release his tax returns. It's probably a good idea to have all the details before making these types of comparisons.  ;)

Seriously?  There is no way to spin donating 1 percent to charity when your entire mantra is about class warfare.  Bernie is a monstrous hypocrite. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #419 on: April 20, 2019, 11:43:32 PM »
Seriously?  There is no way to spin donating 1 percent to charity when your entire mantra is about class warfare.  Bernie is a monstrous hypocrite. 

You have not answered the question regarding what percentage of his income Trump gives to charity. If what one candidate donates to charity considered relevant to their candidacy, then what every candidate gives to charity should be reviewed.

Personally, what any candidates gives is not an issue I considered particularly important. What I do believe is relevant, is them lying about it.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #420 on: April 21, 2019, 04:19:59 AM »
You have not answered the question regarding what percentage of his income Trump gives to charity. If what one candidate donates to charity considered relevant to their candidacy, then what every candidate gives to charity should be reviewed.

Personally, what any candidates gives is not an issue I considered particularly important. What I do believe is relevant, is them lying about it.

Cuckled americans have no need to know President Trumps income nor his charitable contributions.  They do however want to know.  Why?

Because they are jealous and bitter.  Cucks desire, no...theY DEMAND equality but only with those that they consider their superiors. 

It's the same with these cuck legislators.  Scum.  I hope Portland turns into a haven for shitizens and they crap all over cuck yards despite cucks having paid an additional tax to house their worthless, soulless shells.  Next up for Portland.  Needles.

And none of them are in a haystack.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #421 on: April 22, 2019, 12:01:13 AM »
Cuckled americans have no need to know President Trumps income nor his charitable contributions.  They do however want to know.  Why?

Because they are jealous and bitter.  Cucks desire, no...theY DEMAND equality but only with those that they consider their superiors. 

It's the same with these cuck legislators.  Scum.  I hope Portland turns into a haven for shitizens and they crap all over cuck yards despite cucks having paid an additional tax to house their worthless, soulless shells.  Next up for Portland.  Needles.

And none of them are in a haystack.

Portland ranked as one of the best places to live in U.S. FOX News 12, April 12, 2018

"Portland was the only U.S. city to rank on Monocle’s 2015 Quality-of-Life survey, a list of the 25 best cities in the world to live in. Monocle, a London-based lifestyle and culture magazine, ranked Portland as having the 25th best quality-of-life, a higher ranking than any other U.S. city, East Coast or West."

U.S. News analyzed 125 metro areas in the United States to find the best places to live based on quality of life and the job market in each metro area, as well as the value of living there and people's desire to live there.

Portland, Oregon is ranked:

 #8 in Best Places to Live

 #20 in Best Places to Retire

"Portland Ranked
#6 Safest Cities for Families with Young Children"
 Sperling’s BestPlaces

Portland Ranked 6th Best Place To Live In US: Report | Portland, OR ...
https://patch.com/oregon/portland/portland-ranked-6th-best-place-live-us-report
Apr 10, 2018 - By Travis Loose, Patch Staff | Apr 10, 2018 1:45 pm ET ... PORTLAND, OR — Affordability, the availability of jobs and quality of life are all ... U.S. News & World Report's 2018 Best Places to Live in the United States shows ...

I could post tons more accolades about the quality of life in Portland, OR, but the above should give you a pretty clear picture of where Portland stands.

Please explain what you think anyone would have to be jealous of regarding Trump, thanks.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #422 on: April 22, 2019, 04:55:42 AM »
Portland ranked as one of the best places to live in U.S. FOX News 12, April 12, 2018

"Portland was the only U.S. city to rank on Monocle’s 2015 Quality-of-Life survey, a list of the 25 best cities in the world to live in. Monocle, a London-based lifestyle and culture magazine, ranked Portland as having the 25th best quality-of-life, a higher ranking than any other U.S. city, East Coast or West."

U.S. News analyzed 125 metro areas in the United States to find the best places to live based on quality of life and the job market in each metro area, as well as the value of living there and people's desire to live there.

Portland, Oregon is ranked:

 #8 in Best Places to Live

 #20 in Best Places to Retire

"Portland Ranked
#6 Safest Cities for Families with Young Children"
 Sperling’s BestPlaces

Portland Ranked 6th Best Place To Live In US: Report | Portland, OR ...
https://patch.com/oregon/portland/portland-ranked-6th-best-place-live-us-report
Apr 10, 2018 - By Travis Loose, Patch Staff | Apr 10, 2018 1:45 pm ET ... PORTLAND, OR — Affordability, the availability of jobs and quality of life are all ... U.S. News & World Report's 2018 Best Places to Live in the United States shows ...

I could post tons more accolades about the quality of life in Portland, OR, but the above should give you a pretty clear picture of where Portland stands.

Please explain what you think anyone would have to be jealous of regarding Trump, thanks.


This is like watching the Oscars where morons give themselves awards for pretending to be someone else.
Allow me, little one:

Portland is loaded with cuckold liberals. 

Easy peesy mac 'n' cheesy. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #423 on: April 22, 2019, 05:36:03 AM »
Portland  ::)

Horribly filled w/ tons of thug-like protesters. Retarded place to live.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #424 on: April 22, 2019, 05:44:30 PM »
Portland ranked as one of the best places to live in U.S. FOX News 12, April 12, 2018

"Portland was the only U.S. city to rank on Monocle’s 2015 Quality-of-Life survey, a list of the 25 best cities in the world to live in. Monocle, a London-based lifestyle and culture magazine, ranked Portland as having the 25th best quality-of-life, a higher ranking than any other U.S. city, East Coast or West."

U.S. News analyzed 125 metro areas in the United States to find the best places to live based on quality of life and the job market in each metro area, as well as the value of living there and people's desire to live there.

Portland, Oregon is ranked:

 #8 in Best Places to Live

 #20 in Best Places to Retire

"Portland Ranked
#6 Safest Cities for Families with Young Children"
 Sperling’s BestPlaces

Portland Ranked 6th Best Place To Live In US: Report | Portland, OR ...
https://patch.com/oregon/portland/portland-ranked-6th-best-place-live-us-report
Apr 10, 2018 - By Travis Loose, Patch Staff | Apr 10, 2018 1:45 pm ET ... PORTLAND, OR — Affordability, the availability of jobs and quality of life are all ... U.S. News & World Report's 2018 Best Places to Live in the United States shows ...

I could post tons more accolades about the quality of life in Portland, OR, but the above should give you a pretty clear picture of where Portland stands.

Please explain what you think anyone would have to be jealous of regarding Trump, thanks.

So tell us again how you could possibly understand what it's like to have illegal immigrants chasing your truck around the parking lot at Home Depot or the homeless shitting in your streets and leaving their needles everywhere like San Francisco?
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