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And why doesn't Tim get more magazine coverage for all of his work? Discuss.
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And why doesn't Tim get more magazine coverage for all of his work? Discuss.
No kidding? Tim sure seems to know his shit....you'd think one of the mags would scoop him up. :-\ ???
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Joe Roark is a full time historian, and has been part of the bodybuilding establishment for 20-30 years.
I'm a statistician with a website.
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Joe Roark is a full time historian, and has been part of the bodybuilding establishment for 20-30 years.
I'm a statistician with a website.
Very modest of you to say that.....but you still know your shit.
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And why doesn't Tim get more magazine coverage for all of his work? Discuss.
Tim knows his shit.
I also like how he seems to have good inside knowledge of the... frivoulous.. side of BB, so the rest of us won't have to get into that. ;D
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Both guys are great!!
Tim has one of the best sites on the web,and Joe is a great guy who knows his stuff.
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Tim knows his shit.
I also like how he seems to have good inside knowledge of the... frivoulous.. side of BB, so the rest of us won't have to get into that. ;D
Exactly. He pulls no punches. Props to Tim for that.
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And why doesn't Tim get more magazine coverage for all of his work? Discuss.
Tim doesn't do anything except post results for contest on his website and get prints of magazine covers. That's it. Hardly warrants any magazine coverage as any shaved ape can do it.
Joe Roark is a true historian and has been doing it for over 30 years.
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hey, this thread is suppose to be about me.
people with power want to hold on to that power, and often make decisions that are not in the best interest of society as a whole. (that's my definition of a conservative) the ethnicity or religion of those people is immaterial.
now, whether people in power are using superstition (Rapture being just around the corner now) to further their personal gains is something that can be debated.
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Matt you're website is now only worth $103 bucks damn ist dropping in value not a good sign ,
and musclememory.com ?
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I caught that Joe Roark cone head in a couple of fuck-ups. He blamed one of them on someone at the mag , proof reader or something ::)
Oh and he never printed a correction either.........ego is too big is admit he'd got it wrong!
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Joe Roark is an incredible historian, one that I respect and knows a lot of facts, from being around. Tim's site is very good too, and like him, we garner and learn from the history of speaking from people in the past.
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Ron, thanks for deleting that racist idiot Matt C's posts.
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Ron, thanks for deleting that racist idiot Matt C's posts.
The posts were not intended for illiterate people like yourself.
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The posts were not intended for illiterate people like yourself.
If I was illiterate I wouldn't have been able to tell they were racist you Nazi socialist Canadian
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If I was illiterate I wouldn't have been able to tell they were racist you Nazi socialist capitalist Canadian
Fixed.
Just kidding, but seriously, apparently it's not even possible to have an opinion other than one which is politically correct without being deemed racist.
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Ron, thanks for deleting that racist idiot Matt C's posts.
Ron has done Mattler a huge favor.
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Fixed.
Just kidding, but seriously, apparently it's not even possible to have an opinion other than one which is politically correct without being deemed racist.
Welcome to the real world. Anybody who types that shit you do will be labeled an elitist or a know it all. What are you like 28?
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Welcome to the real world. Anybody who types that shit you do will be labeled an elitist or a know it all. What are you like 28?
No, it gets worse than that - people go to JAIL for typing that. For exercising freedom of speech and freedom of thought. And it isn't "the real world", it is powerful interest groups with agendas who only have power if they let them. WAKE UP.
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No, it gets worse than that - people go to JAIL for typing that. Freedom of speech and freedom of thought. And it isn't "the real world", it is powerful interest groups with agendas who only have power if they let them. WAKE UP.
Get married, have some kids, watch sports. Stop fighting the system you are a part of. Stop worrying about this shit. It's silly. It's too easy.
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Ron has done Mattler a huge favor.
Isn't that up for ME to say? Ron has made me look like a sheep in line by proxy, and that does not do my character any favours. Say what you will about me, at least I think for myself and have the courage to speak my mind, regardless of who disagrees with it.
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Get married, have some kids, watch sports. Stop fighting the system you are a part of. Stop worrying about this shit. It's silly. It's too easy.
Yeah, well I guess there doesn't seem to be any fighting it, so I'm tempted to just take up this advice, although it does go against some of my principles. Having said that, I am in part a utilitarian as well which is why I may be compelled to act a little differently.
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Welcome to the real world. Anybody who types that shit you do will be labeled an elitist or a know it all. What are you like 28?
Would you suck a penis for 1 million dollars? (including swallowing the sperm)
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Joe Roark is a full time historian, and has been part of the bodybuilding establishment for 20-30 years.
I'm a statistician with a website.
do you guys know each other and get along?
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Tim doesn't do anything except post results for contest on his website and get prints of magazine covers. That's it. Hardly warrants any magazine coverage as any shaved ape can do it.
Joe Roark is a true historian and has been doing it for over 30 years.
Not True. Tim has done a colossal amt of work...Melvin, I am started to see why you are held in so much contempt by so many
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hey, this thread is suppose to be about me.
people with power want to hold on to that power, and often make decisions that are not in the best interest of society as a whole. (that's my definition of a conservative) the ethnicity or religion of those people is immaterial.
now, whether people in power are using superstition (Rapture being just around the corner now) to further their personal gains is something that can be debated.
same can be said for liberal...all the politicos are the same in this respect
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Tim Fogarty is a great IFBB historian :)
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Tim Fogarty is a great IFBB historian :)
my website is about all of bodybuilding since the 1930s. the IFBB is only a part of that. Joe Roark is the official historian of the IFBB. I've never been a member of the IFBB or the NPC. I've never even met a Weider.
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my website is about all of bodybuilding since the 1930s. the IFBB is only a part of that. Joe Roark is the official historian of the IFBB. I've never been a member of the IFBB or the NPC. I've never even met a Weider.
Now it all makes sense......
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my website is about all of bodybuilding since the 1930s. the IFBB is only a part of that. Joe Roark is the official historian of the IFBB. I've never been a member of the IFBB or the NPC. I've never even met a Weider.
Joe has the official title and knows his stuff. I imagine I could probably have a conversation about business with 240 or Bust and hold my own, just as I imagine you could probably do the same with Joe in terms of bodybuilding knowledge. Joe is extremely good with knowing dates and correct spellings of names, contest weights, and all sorts of other details, but I compared you to him because I think you would be someone who possibly knows just as much of these details that he does.
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my website is about all of bodybuilding since the 1930s. the IFBB is only a part of that. Joe Roark is the official historian of the IFBB. I've never been a member of the IFBB or the NPC. I've never even met a Weider.
IFBB should be to invite Tim Fogarty as another historian.
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IFBB should be to invite Tim Fogarty as another historian.
Or perhaps mention him in an article sometime.
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but I compared you to him because I think you would be someone who possibly knows just as much of these details that he does.
the difference between Joe and me is that he know these things off the top of his head. I need my computer.
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the difference between Joe and me is that he know these things off the top of his head. I need my computer.
Fair enough. Henry Ford was once speaking on the measure of a man's intelligence and that the ability to be resourceful and acquire the information quickly is itself a matter of intelligence. I'm tired right now, but that sums it up accurately enough. Your wealth of knowledge is probably close to his. Aside from just heights, I do know a lot of things about a lot of bodybuilders also, and maybe one day I will know as much as both of you, unless I were to lose interest in following the sport hobby.
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IFBB should be to invite Tim Fogarty as another historian.
After Joe and Ben and Jim have all left the scene, I'd like to sit down with Eric, the rule book, and a red pen.
Or maybe be editor of Ironman for one issue
Or perhaps mention him in an article sometime.
http://www.musclememory.com/wiki/index.php?title=MuscleMemory_Press
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Not True. Tim has done a colossal amt of work...Melvin, I am started to see why you are held in so much contempt by so many
No he doesn't. Its no more than data entry work. Joe Roark is a true bodybuilding historian
BTW, maybe you didn't know but Tim has been bashing my business for years so don't expect me to feel sorry for his ass.
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Why can't the Getbig gay guys get along? They keep squabbling with each other.
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Would you suck a penis for 1 million dollars? (including swallowing the sperm)
check your PM's
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I think tim has very good website
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BTW, maybe you didn't know but Tim has been bashing my business for years so don't expect me to feel sorry for his ass.
No, I have not. I have bashed scam supplements, which many people sells. And I have criticized your net persona, which you've admitted in PM is just an act that is meant to be provocative, i.e., a gimmick.
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Why can't the Getbig gay guys get along? They keep squabbling with each other.
you don't know the half of it. Bay and I have had some very heated discussions in PM.
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Is it just me or everytime he posts does anyone else think Tim 'faggoty' and laugh to themselve ;D
LOL
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Is it just me or everytime he posts does anyone else think Tim 'faggoty' and laugh to themselve ;D
wow, I haven't heard that since 9th grade
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wow, I haven't heard that since 9th grade
I just messing around my friend. You have to see some irony in the fact that not only does your name sound like 'faggoty' but you are in fact a gay ;D
LOL. Very funny for me.
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No he doesn't. Its no more than data entry work. Joe Roark is a true bodybuilding historian
BTW, maybe you didn't know but Tim has been bashing my business for years so don't expect me to feel sorry for his ass.
Melvin, I generally see value in everyone., respect most opinions, and am an easy going guy.
But saying he is just engaging in data entry work is disingenuous on your part.
I don't know you like others here...but just what is...exactly, your deal?
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I just messing around my friend. You have to see some irony in the fact that not only does your name sound like 'faggoty' but you are in fact a gay ;D
LOL. Very funny for me.
That's what I like about you; your mind is so subtle.
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No, I have not. I have bashed scam supplements, which many people sells. And I have criticized your net persona, which you've admitted in PM is just an act that is meant to be provocative, i.e., a gimmick.
You bashed my company because I distribute homeopathic supplements and alternative medicine without putting up any information that wasn't bias.
I'm a licensed naturopath and trainer, that's what I do for a living, Tim. Homeopathic supplements have been approved and regulated since 1938.
And I stand by my assessment of Muscle Memory. You're not a historian but a data entry clerk. Anyone can post results of contests, doesn't take up much time in a day.
That is the reason why you've only gotten a $50.00 dollars in donations in the last 6 months. A homeless person could have made in a week begging for spare change. Just because you got some blue stars from Ron doesn't make you special.
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You bashed my company because I distribute homeopathic supplements and alternative medicine without putting up any information that wasn't bias.
I'm a licensed naturopath and trainer, that's what I do for a living, Tim. Homeopathic supplements have been approved and regulated since 1938.
I bash homeopathy. so what? The scientific method doesn't support it's claims. that's not the same as bashing you or your company. I've bashed that other controversial psuedo-medical field too. That's not the same as bashing the people who practice it.
And I stand by my assessment of Muscle Memory. You're not a historian but a data entry clerk. Anyone can post results of contests, doesn't take up much time in a day.
and if you read my first reply to this thread, I said I was a statistician. And anyone can do what I did, assuming they know computer programming and database design (which obviously the people at MD don't). I've averaged about 10 hours a week on the project, every week for the last 11 years. At my average billing rate over that time, that comes to over $300k. All donated to preserve the history of the sport.
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I bash homeopathy. so what? The scientific method doesn't support it's claims. that's not the same as bashing you or your company. I've bashed that other controversial psuedo-medical field too. That's not the same as bashing the people who practice it.
and if you read my first reply to this thread, I said I was a statistician. And anyone can do what I did, assuming they know computer programming and database design (which obviously the people at MD don't). I've averaged about 10 hours a week on the project, every week for the last 11 years. At my average billing rate over that time, that comes to over $300k. All donated to preserve the history of the sport.
Statistician....fancy name for a data entry clerk.
And don't fancy yourself with your time being worth $300,000 dollars. If that was the case then you wouldn't be looking for a job, Your work is worth $50 every six months... ::)
You may have a lot of people that give you props for your website but they don't give you jack shit for the website.
The people obviously have spoken...nobody gives a shit about MuscleMemory.com. If they did, then you would have more money than $50 dollars. That doesn't even pay for your hosting fees, bro. Why throw money at something people don't care about??
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wow, I haven't heard that since 9th grade
Hadn't you heard it on USENET? The YouTube PM system reminds me of a shit 1995 version of it.
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And don't fancy yourself with your time being worth $300,000 dollars. If that was the case then you wouldn't be looking for a job
Melvin, why be so petty? I'm not looking for a job. I've chosen to stay at home, work on other things, try my hand at being an entrepreneur. Now times are tough, and I do question whether I made the right decision, as in the last 3 years I've made half of what I made in 2004. But I'll continue until my Apple stock (bought at split adjusted price of $7) runs out.
Why throw money at something people don't care about??
the calls and emails I've received from golden age bodybuilders makes it worthwhile
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A few thoughts...
Tim's site is popular and well-respected and used by many in the sport. Tim does it for free.
Tim is more than a 'data entry clerk', as he designed what is a pretty comprehensive database system - that is no small programming task!
In a sport with a historical record marred by politics and poor record keeping, an unbiased database like this is great. Remember the mess when Bob Chic doubted the statemeny by Rhino that he had won a particular show - despite seeing the pics of the show and hearing the words of the man who finished third to Jack at that show. A BBing historian like Bob had NO CLUE what the NAABA results were, because the NPC/IFBB doesn't have an interest in the records of shows they don't run.
Tim is like WIKI for bodybuilding shows and competitors. If you've done a bigger show, you're part of the BBing history book. It isn't politically biased (there will be no re-writing history).
Best of all, it's free.
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A BBing historian like Bob had NO CLUE what the NAABA results were, because the NPC/IFBB doesn't have an interest in the records of shows they don't run.
unfortunately, the NPC has no interest in the records of the shows they do run. Local and regional results are not sent up to the main office. And there is no mandate to save records.
In 2007, I asked a promoter for results from his state championships a month after the event. He said he never got a copy from the judges. I asked the head judge. He said he didn't keep a copy. It's as if the contest never happened.
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I'm a licensed naturopath and trainer, that's what I do for a living, Tim. Homeopathic supplements have been approved and regulated since 1938.
Not that I believe in regulatory agencies anyway, but somebody did point out that regulation only speaks for safety and not for efficacy. Where is the proof of efficacy?
To 240 or Bust: was Frank Sepe in Rhino's show?
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Not that I believe in regulatory agencies anyway, but somebody did point out that regulation only speaks for safety and not for efficacy. Where is the proof of efficacy?
To 240 or Bust: was Frank Sepe in Rhino's show?
Haha, do you expect him to practice something proven to work, when his IQ probably is around 85? ;D ;D ;D
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Haha, do you expect him to practice something proven to work, when his IQ probably is around 85? ;D ;D ;D
If I knew nothing about Vince other than his skin colour, I would most definitely, most absolutely assume that.
Genetic theory and racial profiling are both very accurate on this count.
Having said that, Vince seems competent in HTML, so I will assume a higher IQ. Note that a black person with a 100 IQ and a white person with a 100 IQ still do not have the exact same type of intelligence.
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I don't know if Frank Sepe was in the show. The guy in the pics looked like him.
Tim might know, or Big Ant - another competitor in that show - might know if Frank was in the lineup or not.
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Note that a black person with a 100 IQ and a white person with a 100 IQ still do not have the exact same type of intelligence.
that's some racist bullshit right there, matt.
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that's some racist bullshit right there, matt.
I really wish SMF had killfiles. Vince/Melvin would have been in it long ago. Matt would be a new addition.
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that's some racist bullshit right there, matt.
No shit.
But what is expected from someone that spends most of his life surfing the web instead of actually interacting with people and seeing for himself?
He is a stupid little (literally) man that should be perma banned from here.
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that's some racist bullshit right there, matt.
I suppose anything that doesn't subscribe to the egalitarian fraud is considered racist these days. How is it bullshit though? It is not my opinion, but rather, a scientifically sound conclusion. It has in fact been tested many times. TroubleReady39, what is your take on the subject?
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I suppose anything that doesn't subscribe to the egalitarian fraud is considered racist these days. How is it bullshit though? It is not my opinion, but rather, a scientifically sound conclusion. It has in fact been tested many times. TroubleReady39, what is your take on the subject?
Too stupid to even understand it.
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Too stupid to even understand it.
Read what the peer reviewed scientifically literature has to say and you will see that there is indeed a consensus in the scientific community on this.
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How is it bullshit though? It is not my opinion, but rather, a scientifically sound conclusion.
1) IQ tests are culturally based. if you have a different culture, you'll score lower
2) there is no such thing as the black race. there are people of African descent, but blacks in the US are a mix of African and European. there is no one characteristic that makes you black. there are fair skinned blacks, and dark skinned non-blacks. same with eyes, nose, lips, hair, etc. There is no characteristic that all blacks have.
3) there are many blacks and many africans with advanced degrees. there are many non-blacks dumber than dirt.
4) that the bell curve of one group of people is different than another group says nothing about genes. It may say something about class, our education system, our health care system, and bigotry.
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Read what the peer reviewed scientifically literature has to say and you will see that there is indeed a consensus in the scientific community on this.
yes there is a consensus in the scientific community, but it's the opposite of what you claim
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Read what the peer reviewed scientifically literature has to say and you will see that there is indeed a consensus in the scientific community on this.
You should first start with the consensus says that IQ are far from being an objective way to measure intelligence.
Than proceed to the fact that you cant really define it, beside the obvious fact that we know that you lack it.
After you're done with those two, read Tim reply....understand that you have once again made yourself look like a racist idiot that is in awe of the immense IQ of the Jewish people and keep drooling over the almost complete rule of black people on most sports (which you fail at) than come back here and post a reply saying you're sorry.
BTW did you remember to hang off the nuts of Ron today? Or estimate the inferior Vince by his HTML skills? ::)
(I'm seeing a huge meltdown from you in the near future)
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If I knew nothing about Vince other than his skin colour, I would most definitely, most absolutely assume that.
Genetic theory and racial profiling are both very accurate on this count.
Having said that, Vince seems competent in HTML, so I will assume a higher IQ. Note that a black person with a 100 IQ and a white person with a 100 IQ still do not have the exact same type of intelligence.
An intelligent person would know when to quit whilst their ahead . Matt you're doing irreversible damage here. :-\
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An intelligent person would know when to quit whilst their ahead . Matt you're doing irreversible damage here. :-\
Come on now...he found a new way to measure people.
HTML skills >>>> thousends of posts and people meeting Vince.
Matt is a nut swinger...hanging of Vince nuts (for some free supps or something) and Ron nuts...although they are both "inferior"....lame.
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You should first start with the consensus says that IQ are far from being an objective way to measure intelligence.
Than proceed to the fact that you cant really define it, beside the obvious fact that we know that you lack it.
After you're done with those two, read Tim reply....understand that you have once again made yourself look like a racist idiot that is in awe of the immense IQ of the Jewish people and keep drooling over the almost complete rule of black people on most sports (which you fail at) than come back here and post a reply saying you're sorry.
BTW did you remember to hang off the nuts of Ron today? Or estimate the inferior Vince by his HTML skills? ::)
(I'm seeing a huge meltdown from you in the near future)
Great post ! Matt is teetering on the edge , he's ripe for a classic GetBig meltdown
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An intelligent person would know when to quit whilst their ahead . Matt you're doing irreversible damage here. :-\
Not really. I'm waking up a lot of people to this egalitarian fraud actually. You'd be amazed how many PMs I get from people agreeing with me - proof that people are afraid to speak the truth on this topic just as they have been brainwashed to be.
If I couldn't back EVERYTHING I'm saying with scientific studies, I wouldn't say it. The fact is, I can. That's why the leftists are so scared of me, because they know they can't prove me wrong.
QFT:
http://www.bigdonsboys.com/adorable/images/466379663jfcmvy_fs.jpg
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211492.0;attach=247586;image)
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That whites have a higher average IQ than blacks, and that Asians of the Pacific rim have a higher IQ than whites is a well established fact in psychometrics and well accepted among psychometricians. Matt C is correct about his statements. Unless you know more than Harvard professors, Charles Murrey and Richard Hernstein, who dedicated their lives to studying this topic, or Arthur Jensen, the World's leading expert on intelligence research, then you should really refrain from stating your opinion.
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Not really. I'm waking up a lot of people to this egalitarian fraud actually. You'd be amazed how many PMs I get from people agreeing with me - proof that people are afraid to speak the truth on this topic just as they have been brainwashed to be.
If I couldn't back EVERYTHING I'm saying with scientific studies, I wouldn't say it. The fact is, I can. That's why the leftists are so scared of me, because they know they can't prove me wrong.
QFT:
http://www.bigdonsboys.com/adorable/images/466379663jfcmvy_fs.jpg
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211492.0;attach=247586;image)
That shirt rocks !
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1) IQ tests are culturally based. if you have a different culture, you'll score lower
2) there is no such thing as the black race. there are people of African descent, but blacks in the US are a mix of African and European. there is no one characteristic that makes you black. there are fair skinned blacks, and dark skinned non-blacks. same with eyes, nose, lips, hair, etc. There is no characteristic that all blacks have.
3) there are many blacks and many africans with advanced degrees. there are many non-blacks dumber than dirt.
4) that the bell curve of one group of people is different than another group says nothing about genes. It may say something about class, our education system, our health care system, and bigotry.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Would you be willing to bet that we can study 10,000 blacks and 10,000 whites randomly selected from ANYWHERE in the world, whether it be their homelands or elsewhere, and I will bet you that whites score an average of one standard deviation higher than blacks.
In my experience with debate, I have found by now that those opposing my perspective have only a narrow range of stock answers to use.
I'll go through the quotes in bullet point fashion, then present great links where you will find articles from scientists of the calibre of Dawkins to support my points.
CLAIM: "IQ tests are biased towards whites."
REALITY: IQ tests are constructed in such a way as to control for bias, those that are ignorant of psychometric measuring tools are of course also ignorant to such facts. If IQ tests were simply failed by blacks due to bias, then the environment camp should have no problem presenting a biased test where blacks perform better than anyone else. It's never happened, and it's certainly never happened as far as unbiased tests go.
Of course it is a moot point, IQ tests are controlled for such culture bias. They test for everything from spatial ability to reaction times, not "Who was the seventh US President?"
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CLAIM:
I'm not consulting with a dictionary before I post on here. This is how I speak in real life too. It's called having a rich vocabulary and knowing how to articulate myself. Don't confuse me with TA, whose posts obviously reek of trying too hard. This is just how I always write and speak, I'm not trying to sound smarter.
LOL, did you forgot that we have seen you post before? You're lying through your teeth.
My point still stands, you act too hard and trying to form some new online persona for you.
Although English isn't the only language I speak I can still put you to shame and make you run to Google for help, but some of us arent full of nothing but hot air like you.
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CLAIM: "All races are the same intellectually."
claim: race is an arbitrary category. if you're 1/32 african, then you're black, especially if that 1/32 shows up in your face
claim: what may or may not be true for a group of people has no bearing on individuals. the average of a characteristic in some arbitrary group says nothing about the characteristic of an individual of that group.
Did you know there was a time where Italians dominated pro baseball? And another time where it was the Jews. Another time it was the Irish. Another time people from the Caribbean. and those times correlate well with economics and immigration patterns of those ethnic groups. See, when an ethnic group arrives in America, they first struggle just to get food on the table. The kids have no time to be out playing ball. In a generation or two, they're doing a little better and the kids can spend hours playing ball and some become good enough to make a profession out of it. A generation or two later, they're doing even better and the parents discourage them from wasting time playing ball, but instead practice the piano or study for college.
but yes, in world class athletes, in the best of the best, genes do matter. there is only a dozen people in the world who have run 100 m under 10 seconds. that they're all of west african descent doesn't mean that all africans are better runners than europeans. there are plenty of europeans that are world class runners. one day one of them will break the 10 s mark. and what's happening with the elite athletes says nothing about the rest of the population.
to say that it is likely that the best west african runners of today will beat the best european runners of today is not racist. To say that all people or even the average person of west african descent are better runners than those of european descent is racist.
any time you say "all ____ are ____" you are being bigoted.
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Camel Jockey made a good point. I am taking this to another board on here since it is out of place in G&O and this thread is meant to be about Tim and Joe. I will come back to post a link once I get that thread up in there though.
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That whites have a higher average IQ than blacks, and that Asians of the Pacific rim have a higher IQ than whites is a well established fact in psychometrics and well accepted among psychometricians. Matt C is correct about his statements. Unless you know more than Harvard professors, Charles Murrey and Richard Hernstein, who dedicated their lives to studying this topic, or Arthur Jensen, the World's leading expert on intelligence research, then you should really refrain from stating your opinion.
This is what I have to say on the topic.
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This is what I have to say on the topic.
Good stuff
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Who deleted my reply directing people to the politics board? Ron, I thought that's what you wanted - for me to keep this off the G&O board and discuss it elsewhere? I am a reasonable person and quite willing to comply with that request.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=211592.0
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LOL, did you forgot that we have seen you post before? You're lying through your teeth.
My point still stands, you act too hard and trying to form some new online persona for you.
Although English isn't the only language I speak I can still put you to shame and make you run to Google for help, but some of us arent full of nothing but hot air like you.
Matt C claims an IQ of at least 130.
Although he's tested a little lower sometimes, and a little higher a couple of times as well.
Two questions:
1. Who takes the time to do several IQ tests (one IQ test typically last at least an hour)?
2. Does he actually think anyone is buying that load of crap (it's right up there with the 405 lbs squats for 20 reps by 240 or Bust if you ask me).
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Matt C claims an IQ of at least 130.
Although he's tested a little lower sometimes, and a little higher a couple of times as well.
Two questions:
1. Who takes the time to do several IQ tests (one IQ test typically last at least an hour)?
2. Does he actually think anyone is buying that load of crap (it's right up there with the 405 lbs squats for 20 reps by 240 or Bust if you ask me).
You cannot study for IQ tests, nor can IQ be improved, which is why my IQ has remained the same over years other than the expected variance due to the predetermined reliability of the test. Within 1/3 of a standard deviation is to be expected.
Do you honestly think a person can study and be successful on national math competitions? Do you think a person can merely study and solve a Rubik's cube? Or excel at chess?
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Genetics > environment.
Even if I was a card carrying member of Mensa, you and others on here would still doubt my IQ. Nothing will change your mind because you appear to want to believe this anyway.
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I was 137 IQ repeatedly in grade school when tested.
in real life, it doesn't matter one bit.
There are people with way lower IQs who make more $ than me.
There are people with higher IQs who can't get laid.
Above all, no matter how smart any of us is... we all die one day. So if nobody is smart enough to outsmart death, it appears we're all actually dumber than rocks. It's just a matter of "some of us are dumber than others"?
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I was 137 IQ repeatedly in grade school when tested.
in real life, it doesn't matter one bit.
There are people with way lower IQs who make more $ than me.
There are people with higher IQs who can't get laid.
Above all, no matter how smart any of us is... we all die one day. So if nobody is smart enough to outsmart death, it appears we're all actually dumber than rocks. It's just a matter of "some of us are dumber than others"?
women only care about cock size and green anyway
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I was 137 IQ repeatedly in grade school when tested.
in real life, it doesn't matter one bit.
Right...
Yeah, it's not like populations with higher average IQs don't have better economies, better overall health, and more functional societies or anything. As we all know, Africa and Europe are about equal in these areas.
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Matt C - It's because you protest too much and it's so painfully obvious that you care to an unhealthy extent that random strangers on a bodybuilding board (muscleheads ffs) think you're intelligent. This immediately makes one question why you're coming to a website and going to such extreme lengths to convince people of this. It just makes it look like you're trying to create an internet persona. Most intelligent people are secure and comfortable with that knowledge and never need to say 'I'm intelligent' and post pictures of qualifications.
If you were getting constant intellectual recognition and stimulation in the real world you wouldn't be seeking it on Getbig. You'd be coming here to chill out, chew the fat, laugh at pros, and look at semi-nude women, trust me.
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Matt C - It's because you protest too much and it's so painfully obvious that you care to an unhealthy extent that random strangers on a bodybuilding board (muscleheads ffs) think you're intelligent. This immediately makes one question why you're coming to a website and going to such extreme lengths to convince people of this. It just makes it look like you're trying to create an internet persona. Most intelligent people are secure and comfortable with that knowledge and never need to say 'I'm intelligent' and post pictures of qualifications.
If you were getting constant intellectual recognition and stimulation in the real world you wouldn't be seeking it on Getbig. You'd be coming here to chill out, chew the fat, laugh at pros, and look at semi-nude women, trust me.
Actually if you haven't notice, I don't say anything about my intelligence until I am called out on it, just like Zack prompted me to do above. If attacked or challenged to prove it, I will. Otherwise I will remain quiet.
This reminds me of people who said I should be more polite in my posts in order to elicit a more favourable response - as if I haven't been doing exactly that to no avail in five years of posting here.
Once again, it is a false assumption that I have done any of this out of the blue. Consider actually looking at the comments which prompted this type of reaction from me to begin with. Of course, when posting on a board where the average member is of below average intelligence, it was bound I would have an intellectual conflict on here eventually. It was exactly what Einstein meant when he said "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." [awaits for a dumb as shit getbig member to now claim I am comparing myself to Einstein and attack that straw man].
Lastly, I DO get intellectual recognition in the real world. That is what is ironic - people on here claim I am not intelligent yet not one of my university professors would agree with them. Perhaps the getbig dumb fucks know something they don't?
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Actually if you haven't notice, I don't say anything about my intelligence until I am called out on it, just like Zack prompted me to do above. If attacked or challenged to prove it, I will. Otherwise I will remain quiet.
This reminds me of people who said I should be more polite in my posts in order to elicit a more favourable response - as if I haven't been doing exactly that to no avail in five years of posting here.
Once again, it is a false assumption that I have done any of this out of the blue. Consider actually looking at the comments which prompted this type of reaction from me to begin with. Of course, when posting on a board where the average member is of below average intelligence, it was bound I would have an intellectual conflict on here eventually. It was exactly what Einstein meant when he said "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." [awaits for a dumb as shit getbig member to now claim I am comparing myself to Einstein and attack that straw man].
Lastly, I DO get intellectual recognition in the real world. That is what is ironic - people on here claim I am not intelligent yet not one of my university professors would agree with them. Perhaps the getbig dumb fucks know something they don't?
You're insecurity on your ' intelligence ' screams through every post and Einstein also said
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." keep that in mind.
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Then, if you are as intelligent as you constantly claim, you should have realised after five years of futility that the kind of debating and reasoning you're purportedly looking for is not going to happen on a muscleman site. Particularly if your assertion that the average member is below average intelligence is true.
Indeed, it doesn't show intelligence* to keep doing something that doesn't work and patently frustrates and deeply upsets you.
* I am yet to see demonstrably superior intellect than the average member from you. You often resort to insults and expletives then claim that your opponent is making use of Ad Hominems and the Straw man fallacy when these are your tactics as much, if not more, than theirs. You sometimes come across as a first year undergraduate just starting to learn about these phrases and debating in general.
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You're insecurity on your ' intelligence ' screams through every post and Einstein also said
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." keep that in mind.
Get this, ND. If you breath down my neck long enough, I'm going to hit you. Likewise, if people continue to disrespect me on this board when I am being polite and showing decorum, I am bound to change my temperament as I have on here too.
TrueGrit - as I said, I got attacked first. Secondly, there is substance and science in my posts and not solely insults. Those insulting me cannot normally say the same. Most of their postings are devoid of anything BUT insults.
Also, yes, it was unintelligent of me to not figure out getbig sooner, although I would prefer to call it naivety, which I suppose is a construct of intelligence. Subscribing to the egalitarian fraud that is fed to all of us is why I thought this. I would always naturally assume everyone was as intelligent and diplomatic as me, when I should not have insulted my own intelligence by even assuming they could look me in the eye intellectually to begin with.
Then one day, *light bulb over the head moment*, I discovered that maybe people aren't as smart as me and it is their own piss poor biology which results in conflicts between us. Maybe this also explains why I get along so much better with intelligent people and maybe heredity explains certain aggregate actions of ethnic groups too. DOH!
I want people to look at my past mistakes as the tale of Icarus in Greek mythology - the cautionary tale of the man who flew too close to the sun. Awareness is something which can only help you in life, never hurt you.
Lastly, I don't see how you can't differentiate my intelligence from an average board board member when the average board member cannot distinguish between "your" and "you're" and can't string together a sentence in English coherently. The fact you even wrote a reply to me about the topic at hand and did so with a good grasp of vocabulary and spelling is enough proof for me that you are smarter than the average member here.
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Get this, ND. If you breath down my neck long enough, I'm going to hit you. Likewise, if people continue to disrespect me on this board when I am being polite and showing decorum, I am bound to change my temperament as I have on here too.
TrueGrit - as I said, I got attacked first. Secondly, there is substance and science in my posts and not solely insults. Those insulting me cannot normally say the same. Most of their postings are devoid of anything BUT insults.
Also, yes, it was unintelligent of me to not figure out getbig sooner, although I would prefer to call it naivety, which I suppose is a construct of intelligence. Subscribing to the egalitarian fraud that is fed to all of us is why I thought this. I would always naturally assume everyone was as intelligent and diplomatic as me, when I should not have insulted my own intelligence by even assuming they could look me in the eye intellectually to begin with.
Then one day, *light bulb over the head moment*, I discovered that maybe people aren't as smart as me and it is their own piss poor biology which results in conflicts between us. Maybe this also explains why I get along so much better with intelligent people and maybe heredity explains certain aggregate actions of ethnic groups too. DOH!
I want people to look at my past mistakes as the tale of Icarus in Greek mythology - the cautionary tale of the man who flew too close to the sun. Awareness is something which can only help you in life, never hurt you.
Lastly, I don't see how you can't differentiate my intelligence from an average board board member when the average board member cannot distinguish between "your" and "you're" and can't string together a sentence in English coherently. The fact you even wrote a reply to me about the topic at hand and did so with a good grasp of vocabulary and spelling is enough proof for me that you are smarter than the average member here.
Matt you walked right into that ' you're ' comment lol thats the whole point you take this shit to seriously , take it for what it is , a bodybuilding message board ;) you wanna feel smart go to a algorithms board .
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Lastly, I don't see how you can't differentiate my intelligence from an average board board member when the average board member cannot distinguish between "your" and "you're" and can't string together a sentence in English coherently. The fact you even wrote a reply to me about the topic at hand and did so with a good grasp of vocabulary and spelling is enough proof for me that you are smarter than the average member here.
I can tell that you're reasonably well educated. Your spelling and grammar is of a higher standard than most. However, that just means that you're taking the time to proofread and think a bit more about presenting something cohesive and readable. These are all possible indicators of superior intellect but you ruin it when you call people c*nts and just end up becoming embroiled in the trading of insults and not concepts.
If it's the case that most here aren't capable of sophisticated debate, don't look for it and enjoy the lowbrow jokes and scantily clad women ;) :D
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Matt you walked right into that ' you're ' comment lol thats the whole point you take this shit to seriously , take it for what it is , a bodybuilding message board ;) you wanna feel smart go to a algorithms board .
I do go on those kinds of boards. ;D
As for you, ND, I can tell that you are smart overall and likely possess a high IQ although having said that I can partition your intelligence and further state that some of your opinions about Dorian and Ronnie make no sense at all, not to me at least.
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I do go on those kinds of boards. ;D
As for you, ND, I can tell that you are smart overall and likely possess a high IQ although having said that I can partition your intelligence and further state that some of your opinions about Dorian and Ronnie make no sense at all, not to me at least.
They make no sense to you because you're ignorant of how bodybuilding contests are judged ;) but hey we're all ignorant until we learn.
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They make no sense to you because you're ignorant of how bodybuilding contests are judged ;) but hey we're all ignorant until we learn.
I would perhaps agree Dorian could push Ronnie more than any other bodybuilder if Dorian wasn't riddled with injuries. ;)
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I would perhaps agree Dorian could push Ronnie more than any other bodybuilder if Dorian wasn't riddled with injuries. ;)
Naturally if he was injury free
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Naturally if he was injury free
Dorian as he was in 1993 but with a smaller waist and I could see a pretty sound argument. To me, waist means a LOT for bodybuilding. I will admit it is a big part of my criteria.
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ND, Matt..anyone got any pics of Yates from 1993?
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No, it gets worse than that - people go to JAIL for typing that. For exercising freedom of speech and freedom of thought. And it isn't "the real world", it is powerful interest groups with agendas who only have power if they let them. WAKE UP.
ha i thought this website was private property
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ha i thought this website was private property
Yes, and apparently Europe and Canada are too. Be very wary, the USA may be next.
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That whites have a higher average IQ than blacks, and that Asians of the Pacific rim have a higher IQ than whites is a well established fact in psychometrics and well accepted among psychometricians. Matt C is correct about his statements. Unless you know more than Harvard professors, Charles Murrey and Richard Hernstein, who dedicated their lives to studying this topic, or Arthur Jensen, the World's leading expert on intelligence research, then you should really refrain from stating your opinion.
I read this interview with Arthur Jensen a couple of years ago. Talks about cultural bias in IQ tests among other things.
http://www.amren.com/ar/1992/08/
http://www.amren.com/ar/1992/09/
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Yates in 93
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Get this, ND. If you breath down my neck long enough, I'm going to hit you. Likewise, if people continue to disrespect me on this board when I am being polite and showing decorum, I am bound to change my temperament as I have on here too.
ND are you scared? I can feel you shivering all the way over here ::)
I love it how this little fag is scared of everyone and try to suck up, the list so far:
Ron - "the inferior dirty jew" is a pussy wrecking machine that Matt took time to go and meet and take pics with while he was smiling and being very happy about it.
Vince - "piece of black ghetto garbage" is very smart since he can do some HTML pages but all the other posts/meetings info about him have no relevence.
ND - "the new target of Matt rage" is very smart due to him prefering Dorian the white over Coleman the black.
BTW I already noticed some major meltdown signs on Matt...do you guys think its due to him starting his sex change? Those hormons fuck him up :-\
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Woten taught me all about Jews AFTER I met Ron. ;D Also, Jewish people are quite smart, I never denied that.
Vince is smart when it comes to business and technology.
ND's preference for Dorian may be due to latent racism...people do tend to prefer their own.
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Woten taught me all about Jews AFTER I met Ron. ;D Also, Jewish people are quite smart, I never denied that.
Vince is smart when it comes to business and technology.
ND's preference for Dorian may be due to latent racism...people do tend to prefer their own.
Ha ha so you admit all this crap is the result of you being brainwashed by some internet retard.
Massive IQ ::)
So Ron and everyone else were cool before your tiny brain got brainwashed and now they suddenly suck LOL.
You remind me of an old kids joke "if they put your brain in a bird it will fly backwards" this is the level of IQ that I see you, 3rd grade bitch that is being told what to think.
BTW I actually Google'd your certificates and checked the test that you took, seems quite easy and most of it is basic math so that destroys even more your theory that you cant prepare to those kind of exams.
BTW2 over here before you go to the university you gotta take psychometric exams and there are tons of courses out there that prepare you for them and do a great job, I guess you have never been told that you can prepare for any test ESPECIALY when it have very specific reoccurring features.
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BTW2 over here before you go to the university you gotta take psychometric exams and there are tons of courses out there that prepare you for them and do a great job, I guess you have never been told that you can prepare for any test ESPECIALY when it have very specific reoccurring features.
You can improve your IQ and prepare for test, yes, especially for internet quack tests that = poorly prepared, but even the improvements that can be done is within a certain interval, at least for the proper and difficult tests like the supervised MENSA admissions test, the high IQ society GOAT (greatest of all time challence, which is actually non timed, yet highly difficult) or the CFNSE. You can not boost a person that scores a 90 IQ on the MENSA admissions test to an IQ of 130 or 140 for example (unless you perform 5 years of training for memorization of tons of tasks/patterns, or have some kind of miracle drug, or some other stupid crazy move) Perhaps you can get the 90 IQ person up to 100 with lots and lots of training, and perhaps a 15 point IQ jump for those already at a good level (130+)
Thus, the better prepared and more difficult the test is, the harder it is to prepare for it. Debussey has already written why its doable to improve in another thread, but only within certain limits.
Since MAttCock has scored pretty equal on tests for many years, its pretty safe to assume that he has an IQ of 130. He's pretty bright as well, having done well in math competitions, and he reasons well, and he has an outstanding educational track record. He = a very bright guy (but his Jew shit = a bit to much, even for DickPussey ;D)
And: This all just goes to prove that it = better to be a complete retard like Debussey with a 52IQ. Takes a lot of trouble away :)
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Get this, ND. If you breath down my neck long enough, I'm going to hit you. Likewise, if people continue to disrespect me on this board when I am being polite and showing decorum, I am bound to change my temperament as I have on here too.
TrueGrit - as I said, I got attacked first. Secondly, there is substance and science in my posts and not solely insults. Those insulting me cannot normally say the same. Most of their postings are devoid of anything BUT insults.
Also, yes, it was unintelligent of me to not figure out getbig sooner, although I would prefer to call it naivety, which I suppose is a construct of intelligence. Subscribing to the egalitarian fraud that is fed to all of us is why I thought this. I would always naturally assume everyone was as intelligent and diplomatic as me, when I should not have insulted my own intelligence by even assuming they could look me in the eye intellectually to begin with.
Then one day, *light bulb over the head moment*, I discovered that maybe people aren't as smart as me and it is their own piss poor biology which results in conflicts between us. Maybe this also explains why I get along so much better with intelligent people and maybe heredity explains certain aggregate actions of ethnic groups too. DOH!
I want people to look at my past mistakes as the tale of Icarus in Greek mythology - the cautionary tale of the man who flew too close to the sun. Awareness is something which can only help you in life, never hurt you.
Lastly, I don't see how you can't differentiate my intelligence from an average board board member when the average board member cannot distinguish between "your" and "you're" and can't string together a sentence in English coherently. The fact you even wrote a reply to me about the topic at hand and did so with a good grasp of vocabulary and spelling is enough proof for me that you are smarter than the average member here.
You're obsessed with intelligence.
You also claim to be able to win a debate on pretty much anything.
Yet, when I asked you a few simple questions about legalisation of drugs, you failed to come through.
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You're obsessed with intelligence.
You also claim to be able to win a debate on pretty much anything.
Yet, when I asked you a few simple questions about legalisation of drugs, you failed to come through.
Are you having issues with MattCock HedgeFog? :)
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List of Nazi IQS from Nuremberg.
Hjalmar Schacht IQ 143
Arthur Seyss-Inquart IQ 141
Hermann Göring IQ 138
Karl Dönitz IQ 138
Franz von Papen IQ 134
Erich Räder IQ 134
Dr. Hans Frank IQ 130
Hans Fritsche IQ 130
Baldur von Schirach IQ 130
Joachim von Ribbentropp IQ 129
Wilhelm Keitel IQ 129
Albert Speer IQ 128
Alfred Jodl IQ 127
Alfred Rosenberg IQ 127
Constantin von Neurath IQ 125
Walter Funk IQ 124
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List of Nazi IQS from nuremberg tested for competence im sure for the trials to see if they were just mentally inept or to prove they were the masterminds?
Hjalmar Schacht IQ 143
Arthur Seyss-Inquart IQ 141
Hermann Göring IQ 138
Karl Dönitz IQ 138
Franz von Papen IQ 134
Erich Räder IQ 134
Dr. Hans Frank IQ 130
Hans Fritsche IQ 130
Baldur von Schirach IQ 130
Joachim von Ribbentropp IQ 129
Wilhelm Keitel IQ 129
Albert Speer IQ 128
Alfred Jodl IQ 127
Alfred Rosenberg IQ 127
Constantin von Neurath IQ 125
Walter Funk IQ 124
Hahaha, and Hitler was supposedly at IQ 140+. Debussey = not suprised, these were all bright to very bright men, albeit a bit twisted. Their love for the "superhuman" is easier to understand when they were intellectually superior compared to the common man from a strict cognitive point of view.
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Hahaha, and Hitler was supposedly at IQ 140+. Debussey = not suprised, these were all bright to very bright men, albeit a bit twisted. Their love for the "superhuman" is easier to understand when they were intellectually superior compared to the common man from a strict cognitive point of view.
My IQ is 138. I guess that also makes me intellectually superior, hey debussey?
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My IQ is 138. I guess that also makes me intellectually superior, hey debussey?
Of course. That score = higher than 99.43% of the population, and is concidered very superior intelligence/borderline genius.
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Of course. That score = higher than 99.43% of the population, and is concidered very superior intelligence/borderline genius.
LOL! Actually, jokes aside, i don't think that i would have scored such a value if I'd had not undertaken a maths degree. I stumbled across the subject by accident a good decade after school, and I'm convinced that if I'd have taken a similar test just after school I would not have faired as well, despite the fact that it's the same brain and i guess more intelligent then, as i was younger. The tests typically are analytical by nature and if one has been trained in such areas one is going to perform better.
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Matt is the ultimate example that being a retard (that was brainwashed by anthoer member) with no life that supposedly scored high on some tests, that doesn't mean he is are smart, lets not forget about the fact that I don't believe him or any one else here that stated their IQ score.
For some reason NO ONE on this board that stated his IQ score was under 130 ::) I thought this was GetBig not GeniusBoard ::)
Besides we have all seen him post before, I doubt anyone here thought wow what a smart dude when he was posting about jerking off because he found out Shawn Ray was 5"6.2324235 instead of 5"6.2324234 ::)
He is trying to produce hype for himself in a very unsuccessful way I might add.
I can give you all many examples that I have personally seen of people with post PhD degree's that do MORONIC acts, some of them can solve any equation you give them but have a hard time understanding how to power up a projector for their lecture.
Whats the surprise with the high scores of the Nazi's? Those were the leaders so its not surprising that they were smart, BTW I remembered that one of them had 148 or 168 ( according to NGC show about it).
In summary we have a poor excuse for a man that is craving for attention and swing off the nuts of Ron,Vince and ND. I wonder who will be the next that he will give compliments too after he got attacked by him, talk about being a pussy.
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LOL! Actually, jokes aside, i don't think that i would have scored such a value if I'd had not undertaken a maths degree. I stumbled across the subject by accident a good decade after school, and I'm convinced that if I'd have taken a similar test just after school I would not have faired as well, despite the fact that it's the same brain and i guess more intelligent then, as i was younger. The tests typically are analytical by nature and if one has been trained in such areas one is going to perform better.
Exactly, some people forget that its only a test that was written by someone and have to be kept within similar guidelines.
What is your proffession now? Math graduates are given great tools, what have you done with yours?
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LOL! Actually, jokes aside, i don't think that i would have scored such a value if I'd had not undertaken a maths degree. I stumbled across the subject by accident a good decade after school, and I'm convinced that if I'd have taken a similar test just after school I would not have faired as well, despite the fact that it's the same brain and i guess more intelligent then, as i was younger. The tests typically are analytical by nature and if one has been trained in such areas one is going to perform better.
Good stuff :D You having a honors math degree = very honorable.
Two of Debusseys heroes = John Von Neumann and John Nash. Especially Von Neumann was a genius of epic proportions, perhaps one of the 3 greatest geniuses of the last century.
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Exactly, some people forget that its only a test that was written by someone and have to be kept within similar guidelines.
What is your proffession now? Math graduates are given great tools, what have you done with yours?
Yeah cheers. A math high school teacher. To be honest, as sad as it sounds i actually like math, and it is the only job that I've done that don't bore me to tears. I did not want to get (another) job in an office, *supposedly* using my math, but really just looking at figures and lining someone else's pocket. I wanted to keep any ability that I've got in the area, and hopefully lead others on to it.
If you ever were to get into it beyond face value, it is a beautiful subject and I'm privileged to be bequeathed the genetics to be able to do it.
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Good stuff :D You having a honors math degree = very honorable.
Two of Debusseys heroes = John Von Neumann and John Nash. Especially Von Neumann was a genius of epic proportions, perhaps one of the 3 greatest geniuses of the last century.
Cheers! Not blowing my own trumpet (but what the heck i deserve it!), i got a 1st class and bagged something called an IMA prize (institute of maths and its applications) for coming second out of 150+graduates. (the winner is a real genius though)I'm not a geek or anything, heck I like bodybuilding, but I just got well into it during the degree and as we all know, if you are interested in something, you usually do better than when you apply the minimum effort.
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Cheers! Not blowing my own trumpet (but what the heck i deserve it!), i got a 1st class and bagged something called an IMA prize (institute of maths and its applications) for coming second out of 150+graduates. (the winner is a real genius though)I'm not a geek or anything, heck I like bodybuilding, but I just got well into it during the degree and as we all know, if you are interested in something, you usually do better than when you apply the minimum effort.
Great stuff! That = a great accomplishment! And you are correct, great interest usually leads to great accomplishments given that one has the skill. Look at Richard Feynman for example, he was obsessed with the natural sciences since he was 5 years old, and he became a true genius in physics (he only scored 124 on an IQ test also :P ).
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Great stuff! That = a great accomplishment! And you are correct, great interest usually leads to great accomplishments given that one has the skill. Look at Richard Feynman for example, he was obsessed with the natural sciences since he was 5 years old, and he became a true genius in physics (he only scored 124 on an IQ test also :P ).
Yes, he went down the particle physice direction and come up with the famous listing of "Feynman diagrams." I'm sure that he did much other great work in the field.
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Yeah cheers. A math high school teacher. To be honest, as sad as it sounds i actually like math, and it is the only job that I've done that don't bore me to tears. I did not want to get (another) job in an office, *supposedly* using my math, but really just looking at figures and lining someone else's pocket. I wanted to keep any ability that I've got in the area, and hopefully lead others on to it.
If you ever were to get into it beyond face value, it is a beautiful subject and I'm privileged to be bequeathed the genetics to be able to do it.
I see nothing wrong in loving math, I do too.
You could do some work in engineering, plenty of math there...I should know ;)
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I see nothing wrong in loving math, I do too.
You could do some work in engineering, plenty of math there...I should know ;)
In general, i think that you also need to be a bit practicle to be an engineer? Recalling that comment that you made about people solving equations, but doing idiotic acts like fainiling to plug projectors in etc? We'll that is me. I certainly wasn't genetically gifted in the practicle front.
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I see nothing wrong in loving math, I do too.
You could do some work in engineering, plenty of math there...I should know ;)
In what field are you an engineer?
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Above all, no matter how smart any of us is... we all die one day. So if nobody is smart enough to outsmart death, it appears we're all actually dumber than rocks. It's just a matter of "some of us are dumber than others"?
This statement is so stupid that it is preposterous. Intelligence is a trait that genetically evolved through natural selection to allow us to pass on our genes to the next generation more effectively; it was never developed to allow us to live forever. Rocks are just an aggregate of atoms. The atoms that make up your body will also survive forever, so what's your point?
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ND, Matt..anyone got any pics of Yates from 1993?
I've got 100's that I'll get round to scanning one day.
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I've got 100's that I'll get round to scanning one day.
Kev you're killing us lol you have to scan and post those as soon as possible, please. :)
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In general, i think that you also need to be a bit practicle to be an engineer? Recalling that comment that you made about people solving equations, but doing idiotic acts like fainiling to plug projectors in etc? We'll that is me. I certainly wasn't genetically gifted in the practicle front.
Well yes and no.
There are many fields of engineering that are mostly theoretical or rely on heavy theories. Communication protocols for example is the land of mathematicens that deal with engineering constraints.
I myself am not what you would call a handy man, but I have a great eye for seeing the usage of math theory or physical property in a practical manner.
Donut forget that engineering is far from what it used to be, mechanical engineering today for example is closer to nano engineering than the classical engineering you think of.
In what field are you an engineer?
I'm an electrical engineer, most of my intrests are logic design and solid state physics.
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I'm an electrical engineer, most of my intrests are logic design and solid state physics.
That's very very cool! :)
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White people have on average half a billion more cortical neurons than black people. This is the result of autopsies. This is the closet we'll ever have of a physical evidence that whites are on average more intelligent than blacks.
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The best historian of bodybuilding books I've found is David L. Chapman. His book, SANDOW THE MAGNIFICENT: EUGEN SANDOW AND THE ORIGINS OF BODYBUILDING (1994) went into a new edition in 2006.
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This statement is so stupid that it is preposterous. Intelligence is a trait that genetically evolved through natural selection to allow us to pass on our genes to the next generation more effectively; it was never developed to allow us to live forever. Rocks are just an aggregate of atoms. The atoms that make up your body will also survive forever, so what's your point?
CigaretteMan - you strike me as extremely informed.
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The best historian of bodybuilding books I've found is David L. Chapman. His book, SANDOW THE MAGNIFICENT: EUGEN SANDOW AND THE ORIGINS OF BODYBUILDING (1994) went into a new edition in 2006.
David was one of the first people to allow me to search through his bodybuilding memorabilia collection for my website back in 1997. Once a year or so, I send him a disk containing a complete backup of my database for safe keeping.
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Regarding me knowing the history 'off the top of my head'- I only wish that were true. I rely heavily on my filing system. In the current issue of FLEX we examine the stats regarding the 95 men, who to date, have competed in both the Ironman and the Arnold. I would still be at work on the first paragraph of that article if memory were my only resource.
Regarding whether Tim or I surpass the other, I do not know, or care. There are some men on my forum who know far more than I about certain aspects of the history (Milo barbells, for example). No one knows everything.
In the example that Bix offered, although I do not recall the specifics, there have been times when someone on the staff at FLEX has been the cause of some mistakes that appeared in my column. On the other, and more frequent hand, most mistakes are sourced from me. But to say I have an ego too large to admit error is simply to be ignorant of the many times on my forum where I have acknowledged mistakes. I do not hesitate to point out mistakes regarding history when others make those mistakes, and I never refuse to eat crow when others point out my mistakes. Absolutley never. So if I passed along the blame to someone else in an instance, then that was the case.
That's sorta how we all learn.
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Regarding me knowing the history 'off the top of my head'- I only wish that were true. I rely heavily on my filing system. In the current issue of FLEX we examine the stats regarding the 95 men, who to date, have competed in both the Ironman and the Arnold. I would still be at work on the first paragraph of that article if memory were my only resource.
Regarding whether Tim or I surpass the other, I do not know, or care. There are some men on my forum who know far more than I about certain aspects of the history (Milo barbells, for example). No one knows everything.
In the example that Bix offered, although I do not recall the specifics, there have been times when someone on the staff at FLEX has been the cause of some mistakes that appeared in my column. On the other, and more frequent hand, most mistakes are sourced from me. But to say I have an ego too large to admit error is simply to be ignorant of the many times on my forum where I have acknowledged mistakes. I do not hesitate to point out mistakes regarding history when others make those mistakes, and I never refuse to eat crow when others point out my mistakes. Absolutley never. So if I passed along the blame to someone else in an instance, then that was the case.
That's sorta how we all learn.
How old was Chris Dickerson when he won the Mr. Olympia contest, to the DAY?
I think his birthday was in August of 1939, but anyway, tell me - did you know that stat exactly off the top of your head?
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How old was Chris Dickerson when he won the Mr. Olympia contest, to the DAY?
I think his birthday was in August of 1939, but anyway, tell me - did you know that stat exactly off the top of your head?
Chris was born August 25, 1939, won the Olympia November 13, 1982 so he was age 43 years, 79 days.
I knew that on the side of my head.
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Regarding me knowing the history 'off the top of my head'- I only wish that were true. I rely heavily on my filing system. In the current issue of FLEX we examine the stats regarding the 95 men, who to date, have competed in both the Ironman and the Arnold. I would still be at work on the first paragraph of that article if memory were my only resource.
Regarding whether Tim or I surpass the other, I do not know, or care. There are some men on my forum who know far more than I about certain aspects of the history (Milo barbells, for example). No one knows everything.
In the example that Bix offered, although I do not recall the specifics, there have been times when someone on the staff at FLEX has been the cause of some mistakes that appeared in my column. On the other, and more frequent hand, most mistakes are sourced from me. But to say I have an ego too large to admit error is simply to be ignorant of the many times on my forum where I have acknowledged mistakes. I do not hesitate to point out mistakes regarding history when others make those mistakes, and I never refuse to eat crow when others point out my mistakes. Absolutley never. So if I passed along the blame to someone else in an instance, then that was the case.
That's sorta how we all learn.
Oh and I pointed out that mistake to Joe through a PM on IA, did he come back in the open forum and admit it, hell no!
A correction placed in the mag would have been the right thing to do. You want future generations reading falsehoods?
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Oh and I pointed out that mistake to Joe through a PM on IA, did he come back in the open forum and admit it, hell no!
A correction placed in the mag would have been the right thing to do. You want future generations reading falsehoods?
Bix, please remind me of the specific error to which you refer. I did not keep your PM.
In the future any mistakes that I make in my column, when I become aware of them, I will request that a correction be printed in FLEX. I do not control that, but I will request it.
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I rely heavily on my filing system.
ever think of computerizing your filing system? make it searchable? don't know if you remember, but I asked you that about 10-12 years ago, before too many people knew what the web was. your reply was "you want me to give away my retirement fund?"
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ever think of computerizing your filing system? make it searchable? don't know if you remember, but I asked you that about 10-12 years ago, before too many people knew what the web was. your reply was "you want me to give away my retirement fund?"
It has been computerized, is searchable, and is still my retirement fund ::) I have saved almost enough to buy a hammock, and am waiting for the two trees to grow.
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Chris was born August 25, 1939, won the Olympia November 13, 1982 so he was age 43 years, 79 days.
I knew that on the side of my head.
That's what I mean. ;D
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That's what I mean. ;D
MattC, any new reviews at bodybuildingpro.com?
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MattC, any new reviews at bodybuildingpro.com?
Yep. Here are the most recent reviews:
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tim must have been called 'tim fagarty' quite a lot in school.
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tim must have been called 'tim fagarty' quite a lot in school.
No need to be mean to him.
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tim must have been called 'tim fagarty' quite a lot in school.
Tim is a very informed guy and it's very rewarding to read his posts.
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MattC, any new reviews at bodybuildingpro.com?
My latest review just uploaded a few moments ago:
- Syntrax Nitrous (http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/syntraxnitrousreview.html)
Includes more pics of Matt C (fodder for the computer commandos on here).
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Tim's site is very good too, and like him, we garner and learn from the history of speaking from people in the past.
Very profound, Ron.
Some day I'll actually understand it.
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Regarding me knowing the history 'off the top of my head'- I only wish that were true. I rely heavily on my filing system. In the current issue of FLEX we examine the stats regarding the 95 men, who to date, have competed in both the Ironman and the Arnold. I would still be at work on the first paragraph of that article if memory were my only resource.
Regarding whether Tim or I surpass the other, I do not know, or care. There are some men on my forum who know far more than I about certain aspects of the history (Milo barbells, for example). No one knows everything.
In the example that Bix offered, although I do not recall the specifics, there have been times when someone on the staff at FLEX has been the cause of some mistakes that appeared in my column. On the other, and more frequent hand, most mistakes are sourced from me. But to say I have an ego too large to admit error is simply to be ignorant of the many times on my forum where I have acknowledged mistakes. I do not hesitate to point out mistakes regarding history when others make those mistakes, and I never refuse to eat crow when others point out my mistakes. Absolutley never. So if I passed along the blame to someone else in an instance, then that was the case.
That's sorta how we all learn.
So who was responsible for leaving out my name on your FLEX article of guys placing 2nd? I placed runner up twice...
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So who was responsible for leaving out my name on your FLEX article of guys placing 2nd? I placed runner up twice...
Is the article here?
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY
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March 2008 "Runners up Roundup"
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There are some men on my forum who know far more than I about certain aspects of the history (Milo barbells, for example).
the problem with forums is that they are not necessarily permanent, and not easy to find specific info in. it would be great if everyone who is an expert at some piece of history would write it out and put it in an indexed archive. I've tried to get others to contribute to the MuscleMemory Wiki (http://musclememory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page), but to no avail.
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March 2008 "Runners up Roundup"
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_1_26/ai_n24356591
Too bad about the error, but I must say, that is a pretty good article and exactly what I like about Joe's wealth of knowledge.
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http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_1_26/ai_n24356591
Too bad about the error, but I must say, that is a pretty good article and exactly what I like about Joe's wealth of knowledge.
No error in this case, Bob. As the lead paragrah outlines, the article examines those who have not won a non-masters event after placing second in the same. In other words, those who have won a masters event, even if they had placed second in non-masters events, were not included in the data.
Someone contacted me indicating you were 'miffed' about this, so I replied-thinking he would pass along the info to you- with this explanation.
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No error in this case, Bob. As the lead paragrah outlines, the article examines those who have not won a non-masters event after placing second in the same. In other words, those who have won a masters event, even if they had placed second in non-masters events, were not included in the data.
Someone contacted me indicating you were 'miffed' about this, so I replied-thinking he would pass along the info to you- with this explanation.
In other words, a masters win is still a pro win.
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In other words, a masters win is still a pro win.
Yes, indeed, Matt, but the arbitrary distinction in this article was to separate the two categories.
Perhaps a later article may cover runner-up in the masters who have never won in the masters.
Factoids is two pages and some borders on data compilation help.