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Re: Trump's Tax Returns
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2016, 01:58:39 PM »
not a big deal to me if he doesn't. every rich guy does it. I deduct as much as possible. who wouldn't????

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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2016, 04:23:09 PM »
not a big deal to me if he doesn't. every rich guy does it. I deduct as much as possible. who wouldn't????

Even the ones complaining about it wouldn't.

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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2016, 04:24:08 AM »
He paid someone a pretty penny to get his taxes to ZERO, or as close to zero as lawfully possible.

Since when has paying taxes been patriotic; especially after seeing the latest guccifer leaks & how a chunk of TARP funds to bail out the big banks went directly back to the democratic party  :'( 
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2016, 06:51:58 AM »
If its not illegal to withhold taxes, then i dont see the issue. So what for the last 44 years the party's nominee has done it. Trump is a Maverick. Support the troops... but not with my taxes... Just yell about how much you emotionally support them... but no substance...

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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2016, 06:52:52 AM »
If its not illegal to withhold taxes, then i dont see the issue. So what for the last 44 years the party's nominee has done it. Trump is a Maverick. Support the troops... but not with my taxes... Just yell about how much you emotionally support them... but no substance...

When you go to your CPA - do you tell him that you want to pay the max amount or the least amount? 

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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2016, 06:53:23 AM »
If its not illegal to withhold taxes, then i dont see the issue. So what for the last 44 years the party's nominee has done it. Trump is a Maverick. Support the troops... but not with my taxes... Just yell about how much you emotionally support them... but no substance...

So his charitable donation to veterans isn't enough? You want him to pay extra taxes?
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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2016, 06:59:18 AM »
So his charitable donation to veterans isn't enough? You want him to pay extra taxes?

IF the government runs on taxes...Roads, bridges, schools, public officials, LEO and military, how can you then say you support our American way of life?

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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2016, 07:00:06 AM »
IF the government runs on taxes...Roads, bridges, schools, public officials, LEO and military, how can you then say you support our American way of life?

By giving tens of thousands of people jobs and being taxed at one of the highest business tax rates in the world.
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2016, 07:01:40 AM »
IF the government runs on taxes...Roads, bridges, schools, public officials, LEO and military, how can you then say you support our American way of life?

Blame the congress for the laws - not a citizen for not paying more than he is obligated to pay.  Again - at the end of the year - assuming you earn an income of course - do you pay more than you have to? 

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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2016, 07:29:39 AM »
Hey Option Dick,

"Know who isn’t a taxpayer? Bono. At least not on his earnings from U2. In his home country of Ireland, where thanks to pro-entertainer tax laws, the members of U2 pay no tax on their earnings from the band. link

To put that into perspective, In 2002, Bono’s taxes alone from the Elevation tour would have been in the neighborhood of 3.5 million dollars…that’s not even factoring in album sales. (Based on band’s earnings for tour, split 5 ways, taxed at 25%)

If, according to African relief agencies, it costs $1 a day to feed a starving person in Africa. The money Bono avoided in taxes in one year from one concert tour – no album sales or other income factored in - could feed almost 3 ½ million starving Africans."


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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2016, 07:35:01 AM »
Blame the congress for the laws - not a citizen for not paying more than he is obligated to pay.  Again - at the end of the year - assuming you earn an income of course - do you pay more than you have to? 

grow up... lets put on our big boy pants and talk like gentlemen.


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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2016, 07:37:52 AM »
grow up... lets put on our big boy pants and talk like gentlemen.



I'm trolling you - you know that.  Your one of the dudes i respect on here.     ;) 

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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2016, 07:46:34 AM »
I'm trolling you - you know that.  Your one of the dudes i respect on here.     ;) 

I pay a shit ton in taxes... i do, and im pissed when we spend it on 100 tanks the military didnt ask for. Or in LA, there have been like 40 new schools built for which i can see no discernible reason other than a dignified welfare system for government workers, no different from the DEA's "war on drugs" being nothing more than Job security for agents, jailers, DAs and judges. But i have no choice as the alternative is we pay what we feel and nothing gets done as mans inherent greed will trump all.

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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2016, 07:50:30 AM »
I pay a shit ton in taxes... i do, and im pissed when we spend it on 100 tanks the military didnt ask for. Or in LA, there have been like 40 new schools built for which i can see no discernible reason other than a dignified welfare system for government workers, no different from the DEA's "war on drugs" being nothing more than Job security for agents, jailers, DAs and judges. But i have no choice as the alternative is we pay what we feel and nothing gets done as mans inherent greed will trump all.

Hillary and Trump are both part of the same exact system - its all about the loot.  Think about this - if you were involved w a gun dealer who trafficked illegal weapons in LA - or me in NYC - like Hillary was in Benghazi - would you be let go charges dropped like nothing? 

Or same thing for Trumps nonsense, Hillarys' foundation and email scandals.   The two of them are partners in cvrime running a hoax on us - right now its just which A-Hole you prefer pissing down your neck and telling you its holy water. 

Thats what it is.  Trump gamed the system cause he can.  The system he and Hillary helped create. 

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Re: Trump's Tax Returns
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2016, 07:58:01 AM »
Trump, Taxes and Liberal Hypocrisy
Townhall.com ^ | October 6, 2016 | Larry Elder
Posted on 10/6/2016, 9:31:30 AM by Kaslin



Let's describe the relationship of the media and their Democratic cohorts to taxes and those who "don't pay them" as, well, complicated.

In 2012, ABC News' Jonathan Karl claimed on television that an auto mechanic making $75,000 a year paid a higher federal income tax rate than that paid by then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney. But, as I later told Karl in a radio interview, that would only be true if Mr. Auto Mechanic had no children, owned no home and therefore did not take the same deductions as those taken by Romney. In an apples-to-apples comparison, I informed him, Romney, at a 14 percent rate, pays twice the rate paid by Mr. Mechanic.

Karl said he would look into that, and get back to me. He must've used Hillary Clinton's email server, because I never heard back.

Democrat's 2004 presidential nominee, John Kerry, through marriage, is also a wealthy man. A few years ago, he bought a 76-foot yacht, but docked it in nearby Rhode Island, rather than Massachusetts where he lived and presumably used the yacht. It turns out by doing so he could avoid $500,000 in sales and excise taxes. Embarrassed by a media expose, he later paid up.

In 2001, Kerry's state of Massachusetts lowered its income tax rate. If, however, the guilty Bay State liberals wanted to pay the higher rate -- so as not to deprive schools, hospitals and all -- they could check a box and do so. Out of over 3 million tax filers, only a fraction of 1 percent (930 taxpayers) voluntarily agreed to pay the old, higher rate. Not among that fraction of 1 percent was then-Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who once said, "There are a lot of very rich people out there whom we can tax." When asked about the apparent contradiction, Frank said, "I don't trust the (Republican-led state) government to spend the money properly."

The late Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., cast many votes opposing decreases in the estate tax. But his father, Joe Kennedy, placed his family's fortune in trusts to avoid paying the very estate tax that his son later advocated during his Senate career. The late Democratic tax-the-rich Ohio Sen. Howard Metzenbaum relocated to Florida upon retirement, a move reportedly made so that upon death he would avoid state estate taxes. Based on where he was when he died, mission accomplished.

Then there are the tax-the-rich hosts at cable news channels, with the list led by MSNBC's Rev. Al Sharpton, whose endorsement was vigorously pursued by Hillary Clinton, even though she criticizes Donald Trump for having "paid nothing in federal taxes." Sharpton, according to The New York Times in 2014, owes "more than $4.5 million in current state and federal tax."

It was The New York Times that dropped the "bombshell" that for years Donald Trump "paid no federal income taxes." This would be the same New York Times that, in 2014 -- and who knows what other years -- paid zero federal income taxes.

Donald Trump is a rich businessman. Business people typically do not become rich by willingly pay more in taxes than they believe they owe. He took legal deductions, apparently using losses and his casino businesses to offset his income taxes. Perfectly legal, nothing to see here.

Trump does pay taxes -- a lot of them. He pays payroll taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, sales taxes, local taxes and whatever fees imposed by the various states in which he does business. And as for his claim that he's undergoing an audit and therefore does not want to release returns? The explanation is simple, if not clear to people who don't run a complicated business.

Trump and the IRS are very likely in disagreement over how much he owes and how the tax code should be interpreted to come up with the correct amount. Trump, who says he gets audited every year, probably has these disagreements every year. If he were to disclose his returns, and the public became aware of the amount the IRS says he owes versus the amount he thinks he does, the IRS will be publicly shamed into digging in its heels, refusing to negotiate lest they be perceived as caving in to a rich guy. In short, Trump would lose his leverage and very likely millions of dollars in taxes. What sane person does that?

Warren Buffett, who claimed he paid a lower tax rate then did his secretary, disputed what the IRS claimed one of his companies owed. Given that Buffett famously wants income taxes raised, why doesn't he simply accede to the IRS' request, pay the money voluntarily and increase the federal treasury? By the way, while we're at it, has anybody seen Buffett's returns and those of his secretary to confirm his assertion that he pays a lower tax rate than she does?

But then, neither Buffett, nor, we presume, his secretary, is a Republican. Different strokes for different folks.

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Re: Trump's Tax Returns
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2016, 09:06:16 AM »
First time we've actually had a businessman and not a lifelong politician run office. That being said, since he actually earned his money his tax returns should be none of anyones business. He's never been in politics. On the other hand it only makes sense for a politician that been in a life long politician to show theirs. How does one in politics go from making a modest salary to being worth millions inside of a few years? How does Killary, that claimed to be in the red, figuring out how to pay for college, paying mortgages to being worth a over quarter of a billion? Talking about making $$ off the "little people" nothing like skimming of the tax payers.

At least Trump earned his money.

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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2016, 09:09:15 AM »
First time we've actually had a businessman and not a lifelong politician run office. That being said, since he actually earned his money his tax returns should be none of anyones business. He's never been in politics. On the other hand it only makes sense for a politician that been in a life long politician to show theirs. How does one in politics go from making a modest salary to being worth millions inside of a few years? How does Killary, that claimed to be in the red, figuring out how to pay for college, paying mortgages to being worth a over quarter of a billion? Talking about making $$ off the "little people" nothing like skimming of the tax payers.

At least Trump earned his money.

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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2016, 09:12:39 AM »
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« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2016, 10:46:03 AM »
If its not illegal to withhold taxes, then i dont see the issue. So what for the last 44 years the party's nominee has done it. Trump is a Maverick. Support the troops... but not with my taxes... Just yell about how much you emotionally support them... but no substance...

You do realize that taxes include more than just federal income taxes? 

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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2016, 06:18:55 AM »
Am I right or wrong?

boy you wrong as fuck

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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2016, 06:20:20 AM »
You do realize that taxes include more than just federal income taxes? 

 I live in California. I pay fed, state and local taxes. Im a grown ass employed man. Dont try to play me chief

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« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2016, 06:27:09 AM »
I live in California. I pay fed, state and local taxes. Im a grown ass employed man. Dont try to play me chief

sometimes your posts dont make it seem like you know all that much about these issues.  Thats why people make these posts.   :D  :D  :D

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« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2016, 10:01:37 AM »
I live in California. I pay fed, state and local taxes. Im a grown ass employed man. Dont try to play me chief

I see.  So even though this entire issue with Trump revolves exclusively around whether or not he paid federal income taxes, and your comments were talking about federal income taxes, your really understood that Trump's taxes includes property taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, etc.?

IF the government runs on taxes...Roads, bridges, schools, public officials, LEO and military, how can you then say you support our American way of life?